speaker wire

skyfrog
skyfrog Posts: 1
I have been doing some research about speaker cables. I have read the 27 pages "cable theory" from Audio Quest! I am more confused now. I want to know if it is worth spending some money for good speaker cable. (I currently use basic Circuit City stuff with $ 25 banana plugs). Some people say it does not make any difference. Can anyone help? Thanks
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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited December 2010
    list your set up
  • fishbones
    fishbones Posts: 947
    edited December 2010
    You are brave zarrdoss! This sounds baited? Hopefully I'm wrong?

    IMO, skyfrog, use the search engine on here, then come back with questions...you'll learn a-lot more that way and will not start threads that will end up in battle of lamp wire vs audio cable. Everything makes a difference, just depends on where you're at and what you want.
    ..... ><////(*>
  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited December 2010
    buy speaker wire accordingly IMO if you have $200 speakers don't get $200 wire again IMO.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited December 2010
    List your system and I will tell you what cables will work the best.
    I will tell you this , the cables you select for your system have a job to do. They need to do this job without flaw. You try to get as close to perfection of a conductor as you can. There is no "magic boxes" that make anything sound any better. There is no "Snake oil" that makes anything better. No magic anything. Pure science and spec will direct you in the right direction.
    So the requirements of your given system will dictate which cable you will be using and I will explain each and every one.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,829
    edited December 2010
    Welcome, Skyfrog. Please list the equipment you have; it makes a difference on recommendations. Thanks ! :smile:
    Sal Palooza
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited December 2010
    We are a helpful bunch. Nobody could say different.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2010
    mantis wrote: »
    List your system and I will tell you what cables will work the best.
    Some things never change... :tongue:

    froggie,
    Do as fishbones suggests and then plot a course according to your budget.

    Whether your ears lead you to merely heavier guage lamp wire or in the land of esoteric wire, enjoy the journey...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • xgnarlycorex
    xgnarlycorex Posts: 32
    edited December 2010
    Since the OP is not responding I will with my setup. I could use some recomendations.
    2 x Monitor 70's Fronts
    CS 20 center
    2 x RM8 surrounds
    I believe the sub is a PSW 110, I'm at work and can't remember honestly.
    Receiver is a Yamaha RX-V1065
    360 and PS3 both hooked up via mediabridge HDMI
    Currently I'm using cheap old speaker wire from an Onkyo HTIB. Any suggestions on what I should be using? I'm hoping new speaker wire will fix an intermittent crackling problem I'm having. Every so often for a split second I will hear some crackling. It has no correlation to volume or what is happening in the game/movie..it seems to be completely random.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,989
    edited December 2010
    Signal cable, Belden,Monoprice, even Home Depot for cheap 12 or 14 ga. wire. If you want to move up from there, the world is your oyster. Audioquest,Kimber, PCF, and a cast of thousands are available. At this point though, anything will be an improvement to the cheap cables from a HTIB setup.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • TORI3
    TORI3 Posts: 234
    edited December 2010
    X,

    I used audioquest stuff for the past couple of years and it treated me well. Because I wanted custom lengths with terminations I decided to try out Blue Jeans Cable. To say the least, I was more than impressed with the build quality, price, and sound. I'd highly recommend trying some of their cables before trying some ultra expensive stuff.

    If you want to rent some speaker cable, or want to get some of the name brand stuff for lower prices, I'd check out The Cable Company.
    HT: RTi8s, CSi3, RTi4s, HSU ULS-15, Pioneer Elite VSX-23TXH, Sunfire Cinema Seven.
    2CH: CJ MF2300, Parasound P3, PS Audio DLIII, Wadia 170i, Music Hall Maverick, Sierra-1s, Sunfire HRS8
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited December 2010
    Beaten to death, actually the horse has been pulverized by this type of discussion.

    Get your search on. You could spend the 1st quarter of 2011 reading about wire discussion on this forum alone.

    We don't need another cable thread

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,989
    edited December 2010
    ...or a carver vs adcom thread
    ...receiver to match my speakers thread
    ...speakers to match my receivers thread
    ...receivers to drive LSI thread
    ...and so on.

    But this is an audio forum, and while I get as testy as you at times with the same questions over and over, it's the nature of the beast. The search button should be bigger and pop out on the page. Don't know why we can't do this, it may eliminate some of the this.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited December 2010
    Still, sounds like a fishing expedition to me.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,989
    edited December 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Still, sounds like a fishing expedition to me.

    H9

    LOL !! My man, they all sound like fishing expeditions, but until proven, we have to give the benefit of the doubt. I hear ya bro.:tongue::smile:
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2010
    Cool... we need more fishing threads...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • Mattcc22
    Mattcc22 Posts: 21
    edited December 2010
    Monoprice cable all the way
  • DON73
    DON73 Posts: 516
    edited January 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Beaten to death, actually the horse has been pulverized by this type of discussion.

    Get your search on. You could spend the 1st quarter of 2011 reading about wire discussion on this forum alone.

    We don't need another cable thread

    H9


    This is a very common answer on most of the forums I've visited. Duplicate posts and questions that may have been answered in a previous thread. I've used the search function here and on other forums and it's not always the answer. I searched here for speaker wire and speaker cable and got several "matches" that really had nothing to do with speaker wire. "Speaker" and "wire" were in the posts but not together. One thread was a multi page thread showing photos of the "guts" of members equipment. Some of us are fairly new to this forum and will ask questions that irritate longterm members but that's what the forum is for. If all questions could be answered by using the search function there would be far fewer posts. I get some very good information from discussions of topics that have been "beat to death"
    You have an extensive knowledge of our hobby and Polk equipment and can be an invaluable source for those of us who don't. Try to bear with us.....we'll be very grateful.
    TO ERR IS HUMAN. TO FORGIVE IS CANINE.
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited January 2011
    diy is a great way to go depending on your interest and time. There are some great recipes out there.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer