what CD player/transport you own?

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danger boy
danger boy Posts: 15,722
edited July 2003 in Electronics
what kind of CD player you own?
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,061
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    I own a Pioneer Elite PDF-19 301 mega changer.I had a problem with it as the wheel if you will broke so it doesn't spin.I took it out of my system and I'm going to replace it with a Sony ES player.I'm waiting to see if Sony Releases a Megachanger SACD player......that would be cool.I'm going to share the megachanger between the theater and the house system.

    I'm also considering a xa777es Sony Es flagship sacd/cd player.

    I spin my cd's today untill we move(in 2 weeks) in my DVD player which is a Pioneer Elite dv47a.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
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    Pioneer Elite DV-47Ai
    Luxman D-105u

    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • SPEAKER7
    SPEAKER7 Posts: 355
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    Sony single dics
    Technics Jube box changer



    Waiting for a complete audio overhaul!:D
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
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    Sony and Phillips.
    Make it Funky! :)
  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
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    This poll is flawed...I demand an investigation!;)

    I'm using a PE DV-47a for all disc duties.
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  • SPEAKER7
    SPEAKER7 Posts: 355
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    Just wondering if you can add Cambridge Audio in your survey?

    This is one of my potential picks?.



    dc.:confused:
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
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    Mantis - I am planning on gettin the 555ES changer, that 777ES is real nice.

    Right now its Sony, and this trooper has chugged along thru many years.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
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    2 Channel Audio Rig: Adcom GCD-750
    Home Theater Rig: Sony CDP CA80ES and Yamaha CDX-1110U
    Home Office Rig: Sony CDP CA80ES
    Work Office Rig: Yamaha CDX-1110U (modified)

    In Storage: Denon DCD 1650AR (modified), Yamaha CDX-1110U, Yamaha CDX-1100U, Sony CDP C505, Sony CDP CE445
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,897
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    Sherwood Newcastle CD-980 +
    H/K HD7600II
    2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
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    None of the above.... I have a BSR 2020XR-MKII

    nadams
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
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    Panasonic here
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,851
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    Sony XA777ES :D
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
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    Rotel RCD-1070

    Yamaha CDC-585 5 disk changer in a box in my basement.

    Derick.
    SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070

    Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
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    sorry guys.... the poll only allows you to list 10 choices.. i had to pick the ones I thought people in here might be using. I had no idea Pioneer was in such high use on here.

    I did figure a good number of people would be using Sony. Sony seems to be the leader in CD players... with their ES ones. and the several other lesser ones.

    I'm looking hard for a decent CD player/transport... to that's why i started this poll. I'm not looking at Sony ES, only because I'm looking for a player with coax out.. Sony's only offer optical outs :mad:

    My price range is $300 and below. I am looking for used players. I prefer a multi disc one.. but will also settle for a single disc one too. If I use a player as a transport only.. is there much difference in the sound quality? I know the sound is determined by the quality of DAC's used..so would using it as a transport make any difference then? Are all lenses made pretty much the same... or are they higher quality lenses?

    thanks, Al
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  • Loud &amp; Clear
    Loud &amp; Clear Posts: 1,538
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    I use an RCA RP8078 ($90.00 new), 5-disk carousel with an optical out in my home theater room. Naturally I use the optical out to the Denon 2802, as running analog out from this machine sounds as lifeless as any source I've ever come across.

    I run a Jolida JD100 in my stereo setup, and it is the best piece of equipment I have ever owned; dynamic as all hell. Quadrophenia has never sounded so good.

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,061
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    danger boy,
    shame..sony Es has awesome internal dac's.No need for digital out.Analog all the way there.#00.00 huh,well look into Rotel my man,there cd players are really nice......and cheap
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,061
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    dorokusai,
    I was going to buy the 555 es mega changer myself.But I was under the inpression(some inside source)that Sony will be coming out with a SACD version of that very player.......If it's true I'm going to wait for it.........if not I'm gonna scoop up a 555es......they go for 599.99 new.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
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    Mantis - That would be very interesting to me also....hmmmmm
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    Three Sonys:

    SCD-C222ES - SACD 5 disc changer
    SCD-CE775 - SACD 5 disc changer
    CDP-215 Single disc player

    I'm not looking at Sony ES, only because I'm looking for a player with coax out.. Sony's only offer optical outs

    WRONG! Check out the Sony SCD-C222ES - Analog, optical and... COAXIAL!

    x158scdc222-b.jpeg

    My price range is $300 and below. I am looking for used players. I prefer a multi disc one.. but will also settle for a single disc one too.

    Again a NEW Sony SCD-C222ES can be had for about $350 (check out Oade Bros.) A little over your budget but it is all that you are looking for ...plus SACD. I highly recommend this player.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    Originally posted by mantis

    shame..sony Es has awesome internal dac's.No need for digital out.Analog all the way there

    True. I use analog outs on all of my players. The DACs in the Sonys are excellent.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
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    shack,

    that is the FIRST SONY i've seen with a coax out. there are lots of Sony players on ebay when i look.. and none of them mention a coax out. I guess if the DAC's in the ES player is good enough.. i wouldn't need a digital out. Can anyone tell me what kind of DAC's the Sony ES line uses?

    I'm not looking to SACD. A multi player carousel is more like it.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,851
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    DB,

    My XA777ES has analog, optical and coaxial too. Like Shack, I use the analog outs and this thing has 3 DAC's per channel for 2 channel playback, redbook is great, SACD is awesome. The new XA9000ES has 9 DAC's per channel for 2 channel.
    In your price range the C222ES should be on your list, plus you get SACD. Once you hear what SACD is about, you'll want more. I think Sony guards that DAC info better than the US guards the gold in Ft. Knox.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
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    F1, as much as I'm sure SACD is wonderful.. i went the route of DVD audio instead. so i'm already using the 6 analog ins on my receiver. it's full. no mo places for a hook up. so if I bought a player capable of SACD it would just go to waste i'm afraid. so a high quality stereo player is what i'm after.

    thanks.
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
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    SACD does higher quality stereo too. Not just multichannel. It's way better than CD stereo.
    SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070

    Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,103
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    Good Ol Yamaha! I hope to add an Adcom or Pioneer Elite CD Player for my main rig however. We shall see.
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
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    Denon DVD-2900. SACD, DVD-A, CD, DVD-V.

    Custom built to Denon's specifications - Burr-Brown 24-bit, 192-kHz DSD 1790 Audio DACs.

    For music, I use six (6) Signal Cable Analog 2 analog outputs and use the 3803 strictly as an amp.

    For movies, I use a Monster digital coax and let the 3803 handle the processing duties.

    Doc
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
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    F1, what *type* of DACs? 9 sounds great if they are of some quality, but I'll pass on single-bit dacs 'stacked'. What's in there?

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
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    db,
    I agree with the consensus that Sony internal DAC is very good. My old XA3ES (7 years old) DAC sound much better than the Rotel rsx-1065 DAC (in two channels). The difference is *very* distinct: profound low, mid, and high, no subtlety at all! make me very curious on how to surpass it with a better outboard DAC, if it exist. Btw, do you guys know DIY internal upgrade for Sony's CDP?

    Also, on your dilemma of running out 5.1 input on your receiver, I use the Ratshack solution (Shack lined out the option in the past, you can do search on this) and it works great! A $27 investment with two Ratshack's switcher. Try it out...
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
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    I read somewhere last night.. that those Sony ES players that offer SACD have three DAC's built into them.. two DAC's for SACD and one DAC for regular CD's. wish i could find that article again.. dang it!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,851
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    Guys,

    The XA777ES has 6 DAC's total, 3 for each channel in 2 channel playback of redbook or SACD. One for each channel in multi channel playback. I have no idea what Sony uses for their DAC's, but it's not a single bit DAC. I believe you're thinking of the DSD technology which is 1 bit. The new XA9000ES has 18 total DAC's, 9 for each channel in 2 channel playback, etc. Of all the mods I have seen for these players, nobody offers a upgrade for the stock DAC's....must be good enough already.

    From Sony about DSD.......
    "Direct Stream Digital processing is dramatically different, even when compared to the most sophisticated PCM technology. Sony's 1-bit system encodes music at an astonishing 2,822,400 samples per second. The result is more than just superb frequency response and dynamic range. It's a quantum leap in music reproduction."

    From Modwright on the XA777ES....
    "It is quite simply the best digital that I have ever heard. I am speaking of Redbook CD playback as well as SACD. SACD playback is phenomenal, Redbook playback on this unit sounds superior to upsampling in my opinion."
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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