Back to my roots. Screw CD
HB27
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I've been going through stored gear and lately I've been playing with a couple of my reel to reels.
Even my 30 yr old TT to tape homebrew recordings blow away my cd collection. Sad I fell into the convenience mode and gave up the sound quality of great analog 2 channel listening.
Wired remotes are cool in a nostalgic sort of way.
Sure I'm an old **** at 61 but I've still got a good pair of ears even if not much else functions properly.
Seperation, full range and full soundstage. Heck with the fractured sterile recordings on CD.
I feel like I'm home again. Weird it took so long to remember the good sounds of younger days.
I'm sick that I spent so much money on accessories trying to find the music again.
It was simple. Just go to good analog source. Duh!
Analog rules. Vinyl and reel to reel are king.
Even my 30 yr old TT to tape homebrew recordings blow away my cd collection. Sad I fell into the convenience mode and gave up the sound quality of great analog 2 channel listening.
Wired remotes are cool in a nostalgic sort of way.
Sure I'm an old **** at 61 but I've still got a good pair of ears even if not much else functions properly.
Seperation, full range and full soundstage. Heck with the fractured sterile recordings on CD.
I feel like I'm home again. Weird it took so long to remember the good sounds of younger days.
I'm sick that I spent so much money on accessories trying to find the music again.
It was simple. Just go to good analog source. Duh!
Analog rules. Vinyl and reel to reel are king.
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I agree wholeheartedly, of course.
But that remote control on the CDP is awfully nice... -
mhardy6647 wrote: »I agree wholeheartedly, of course.
But that remote control on the CDP is awfully nice...
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If one is unhappy with the sound from their CD's, it's not the CD's, but the CDP they are playing them thru.Political Correctness'.........defined
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If one is unhappy with the sound from their CD's, it's not the CD's, but the CDP they are playing them thru.
A good quality cdp and some tubes can sound very good. My TT is in storage because my vinyl collection is the craps. -
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If one is unhappy with the sound from their CD's, it's not the CD's, but the CDP they are playing them thru.
I've got a couple of very good CDPs and play most formats including SACD. I've gone nuts on cables, speaker wires, dampening, etc and the CDs sound excellent. No problems but there's just that "Magic" in the good analog that CD doesn't have.
Indy Hawg came by last week and we did some "A-B" listening to a Brothers in Arms album vs cd and even a later release album had a lot more music in it than the cdp did.
It got me going through my libraries of cd I could match against vinyl and then yesterday I went through the old tape collection and matched against the cds.
My SACD is close but still not quite there.
I enjoy my cds also but I do realize it's the convenience factor that lead me down that path.
I'll continue to listen to cds but my critical "private time listening" is going back to vinyl and tape depending on listening mood.
I've got enough recorded 10" tape to do the convenience listening sitting at my desk and I'll take time to record more vinyl to tape.
I've got a good selection of music in multiple formats and between CD, LP, Tape, Cassette, I'm pretty well covered.
Analog still rules. -
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It was simple. Just go to good analog source. Duh!
Analog rules. Vinyl and reel to reel are king.
Be carefull with this type of propaganda. You will be labeled an old ****, or too old to embrace new technologies,a dinosaur, and so on.
I dig that 4 channel reel to reel. I know awhile back,Ken maybe, posted a link where you can still buy tapes for that puppy. Worth a look into. I agree analog is still king, I do like some newer digital formats but some make it so dynamic and bring out so much detail, it almost overcomes the whole soundstage, which can be annoying at times. I guess it comes down to how a piece of music is recorded, every recording studio has it's own idea of what they want to put forth.HT SYSTEM-
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The problem with RTR is that the availability of titles ain't all that great....
I love analog as much as anyone but I don't discount digital....matter of fact, just picked up, FINALLY, Aimee Mann 'Lost in Space' on SACD. Finally found a copy that wasn't an arm and a leg....downside is it'll be another three months until I can listen to it.
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I am just jealous! I consider "quality" listening when I can wrestle my itouch from the 4 year old playing games before the 1 year old uses the internal speaker to dock it for a couple of docked tunes before bedtime! But I am sure I willl reflect happily about this time when I have listening time in the near future...nice analog stuff and cool pix!
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There's too much good music that's not available on vinyl to abandon the CD format.If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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There's too much good music that's not available on vinyl to abandon the CD format.
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I've got a couple of very good CDPs and play most formats including SACD. I've gone nuts on cables, speaker wires, dampening, etc and the CDs sound excellent. No problems but there's just that "Magic" in the good analog that CD doesn't have.
Indy Hawg came by last week and we did some "A-B" listening to a Brothers in Arms album vs cd and even a later release album had a lot more music in it than the cdp did.
It got me going through my libraries of cd I could match against vinyl and then yesterday I went through the old tape collection and matched against the cds.
My SACD is close but still not quite there.
I enjoy my cds also but I do realize it's the convenience factor that lead me down that path.
I'll continue to listen to cds but my critical "private time listening" is going back to vinyl and tape depending on listening mood.
I've got enough recorded 10" tape to do the convenience listening sitting at my desk and I'll take time to record more vinyl to tape.
I've got a good selection of music in multiple formats and between CD, LP, Tape, Cassette, I'm pretty well covered.
Analog still rules.
This. Yes, digital guys, we all know how great your formats are, and how convenient digital is. But they still won't top a good analog rig until we get higher resolution media and less odd-order harmonics in the playback.Turntable: Empire 208
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There's too much good music that's not available on vinyl to abandon the CD format.
Actually, I think it's the other way around....especially when it comes to classical. There is a LOT of stuff that either isn't on CD or the CD sucks in comparison.
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Snap, crackle, pop.......ruins every LP I've ever heard. I grew up on vinyl, I've heard some "stellar" vinyl rigs, I'm not missing a thing without one.
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A real audiophile has sources for all the major formats in their system. Why would you limit the audio journey to just a couple of sources or format types. That's just silly talk!DKG999
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For me it's a blend of many formats. For some reason I can not get enough of jazz on vinyl, even with the snaps, crackles and pops. There is just something about the warmth and overall kinetic physicality of the sound being really "there" rather than digitized with jazz...even the popping works strangely with the tempo of the drums.
Vinyl is also a must for any vintage "hi fi" sort of things like the loungey stuff you'd play at a tiki party. I plan to have a tiki themed bar in our house very soon and it will be the room where I feature my future vintage rig. The only sound source there will be a turntable.
I can imagine high quality reel to reel being a treat. I'd love to have that for jazz and for older rock and roll recordings. In fact, rock I can listen to happily on vinyl even if digital is my overall preferred source.
But I would rather not listen to classical on vinyl or analog equipment. You really hear the limitations of the format there. Too much hiss, not enough range in the higher frequencies. SACD truly shines with classical music.
Of course truth be told, I listen almost all of my music in FLAC format via HDMI these days. I LOVE it. -
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....and raise you a Controller. Much easier on my tired old eyes. Yes, I know you will call with your Iphone app....:biggrin:
And just for the record, I've never been out of vinyl. Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 * -
How many skipped audio cassettes as a main format? I recall in the late 80's I went from records to CD's. Audio cassettes were to me nothing more than a means of recording stuff or for making mixes that you could play on a portable or in a car. I bought VERY few originals on cassette. Inferior in every way imaginable.
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Same here. vinyls then slowly moved on to CD, bought very few pre-recorded tapes. My tape player actually served to play music I recorded from vinyls as a hobby while I was in Alert.cassettes were to me nothing more than a means of recording stuff or for making mixes that you could play on a portable or in a car. I bought VERY few originals on cassette.DARE TO SOAR:
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I had a chance to listen to the RTR that HB27 has pictured last week. It sounds killer. I've been listening to a lot more vinyl lately than CDs.
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I had a chance to listen to the RTR that HB27 has pictured last week. It sounds killer. I've been listening to a lot more vinyl lately than CDs.
Hard to beat R2R and a good-quality first generation tape ('specially at 15 ips). This A77's been reconfigured to 1/2 track stereo and "high speed" (7-1/2/15 ips). Not too pretty but quite capable.
Unfortunately, I can't grandstand much more; the other ones I have are pretty scroungy :-)
I don't have access to a large number of very high quality tapes, unfortunately. Dubbing and listening to your own isn't the same thing as , say, listening to a safety backup of a master tape. -
I just bought a Prism Orpheus for my Spatial HD. My CDs and High Rez sound stunning, like vinyl if I dare say. But, this thing also has a phono section. I may hook a table up to it shortly to do some experiments.
For me, the vinyl v. digital debate is dependent upon the same characteristics we always discuss, synergy, quality of gear and personal preference. -
I'm on the tape kick again. I've been listening to 4 Teac 3300 decks and a 2340 ars quad all in 10".
I've been EQ recording some of my favorite CDs just to experiment with. I like taking the CD to tape. I do miss the "track # " convenience of CD though.
The sound is excellent and huge in the analog. -
I've been going through stored gear and lately I've been playing with a couple of my reel to reels.
Even my 30 yr old TT to tape homebrew recordings blow away my cd collection. Sad I fell into the convenience mode and gave up the sound quality of great analog 2 channel listening.
Wired remotes are cool in a nostalgic sort of way.
Sure I'm an old **** at 61 but I've still got a good pair of ears even if not much else functions properly.
Seperation, full range and full soundstage. Heck with the fractured sterile recordings on CD.
I feel like I'm home again. Weird it took so long to remember the good sounds of younger days.
I'm sick that I spent so much money on accessories trying to find the music again.
It was simple. Just go to good analog source. Duh!
Analog rules. Vinyl and reel to reel are king.mhardy6647 wrote: »I agree wholeheartedly, of course.
But that remote control on the CDP is awfully nice...
Hmmmmmmmm analog . . . drool! -
Wow, those are some nice analog gears and pics above. Would love to have a listen. Thanks for sharing the pics.
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