Friends in High Places

George Grand
George Grand Posts: 12,258
edited July 2003 in Electronics
So my old pal Don Milks called me up the other day. You remember him. Met him in the late 80's, when he was the senior service tech at Adcom. Sold me the brand new Adcom GFA-555 for $200 back then (I hated it and sold it at no profit). Then he moved to Altec Lansing for awhile. Now he's a heavyweight at Onkyo. Been there for about three years. Tells me about an employee sale at Onk, and sends me the list to choose from. Do I want a home theater receiver? Hell no! Do I want to put one in Stephie's room, and replace her Dynaco integrated surround amp? Hell YES! So I am getting a brand new Onkyo TX-SR700 delivered to my door for......$50. Not a bad price for an $800 list price receiver.

My real old pal, Bobby "The Package" Poole, now HE is a home theater kind of guy. So he picked out the top of the line Integra 7.1 receiver, the DTR-9.1SLS. List price either $3,200 or $3,600.
Employee sale delivered to your door price.....$200.

Thought I'd like to share my good fortune (and Bob's) w/you.

See ya!

George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    cut me in, I have the Integra 7.1 and would love to have the 9.1, :)
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2003
    You paid too much man.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited July 2003
    That's just sick man.
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited July 2003
    George, you paid too much man. :D
    SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070

    Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2003
    Now THAT's funny. Fun place, no?

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited July 2003
    Ya, that's a sweet deal.
    SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070

    Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited July 2003
    That said, the budget for spiced rum should have ZERO issues I take it?

    Gotta love Onkyo on the cheap, why they get a bad rap sometimes, I'll never know. Clean current, and heavy. My dad always said, if it's heavy, don't eff with it, it's expensive.

    All the HT junkies usually dismiss my 'dig ready' oink, due to age alone, yet not ONE **** who has actually heard it has nothing but compliments to throw out.

    I wouldn't be afraid to bring her (an oink) home to meet mom, thats for sure.

    Cheers,
    Rooster
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by George Grand
    You paid too much man.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)


    I know, so sell me a 9.1 dtr:D
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2003
    A thread like this means we don't get shite.

    Have fun with that Onkyo George :)
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • hotwheelman
    hotwheelman Posts: 1,300
    edited July 2003
    My pioneer just recently bit the dust, wish I could buy one of those at that price to replace it. You definantly got a screamin deal on that george.

    Enjoy,
    Mike
    "Its worked so far but we're not out yet."
    "Hey big man let me hold a dollar"
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    Are we supposed to be implying that there is an FU at the end of that post George? ;)

    EDIT: Meant to say congrats too......lol....too late for me to be thinkin clearly.....nite.
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited July 2003
    "Friends in High Places"

    So What!?!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • avelanchefan
    avelanchefan Posts: 2,401
    edited July 2003
    Wish I had friends like that George.

    Congrats on the coup of A/V gear.
    Sean
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    PSN---->Floppa
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited July 2003
    Just goes to show the TRUE value of Onkyo products......
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2003
    Now that's just plain funny Mantis LOL!
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2003
    get off the oNkyo kick guys, I wonder what some of that B&K and Rotel gets bought for by dealers and what their inside "deals" are? I bet you would be surprised:D
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited July 2003
    George. In my world you are one of those high places.:), and you're as close to a friend as I get:( .

    Oink or not. This is a prime example of getting a "hook-up vs. mark-up".

    Unfortunately value and price are usually independant conceptions. Someday more people will realize this and rethink things accordingly.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2003
    Gidrah,

    You da man.

    Mantis,

    If you're Dan from long ago, I think I liked you a lot better when you didn't think you knew so much. I think we both know that these items were sold well below what it cost to manufacture them. If you didn't know it before, you know it now.


    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
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  • phoneisbusy
    phoneisbusy Posts: 867
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by George Grand
    [...
    Thought I'd like to share my good fortune (and Bob's) w/you.

    See ya!

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's) [/B]

    Damn... Bob's lucky to have a friend like you. Got to compliment you on your restraint. I think I'd be tempted to order one of each.
    :D

    regards

    Dave
    Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students.
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  • burdette
    burdette Posts: 1,194
    edited July 2003
    I bought an Onkyo receiver new in 1988 on the cheap as an employee of Best Buy. I think Onkyo was their premium brand, if I remember correctly.

    We bought an identical receiver used in about 1993. One of them died last year, the other is still going strong.

    I would find myself hesitant to buy a new Onkyo receiver, however. I've read JUST ENOUGH on different forums that would lead me to think Onk had/has some quality issues. A couple of the consistent problems with particular components are very well documented. It would scare me to buy into that.

    I think it is great to have an 'insider' for purchases. When I worked for Chrysler Airborne Systems, I could get cars for 3% LESS than dealers paid (of course, couldn't bring myself to buy a Chrysler).

    Mr. Grand didn't offer up to get anyone else a deal, so I guess he was just sharing his good fortune.. although, in general Mr. Grand seems more grumpy than usual lately, so maybe that FU was on the end. Doesn't matter to me.. I couldn't buy anything right now anyway.

    However, I would extend the information to all here that I am privy to the location of a Florsheim Factory Outlet and there is also a Russell Stover outlet nearby.. couple of hours drive, but I think I can get you the $10 Assortment Box for like $7.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2003
    I've been flying/working with Bobby Boris Poole since 1978, and I consider myself fortunate to have a friend like HIM. Plus, he's the one who is really into home theater, not me. Let's face it, the one I'm buying is going into a 13 yr old girls bedroom. About 8 yrs ago, Bob asked me to try and sell the Bose 901's he purchased brand new, on the island of Okinawa, in 1968. Originals, not the Series II or anything. One of the great pleasures of my life, was to sell them for more than he paid for them, and hand him the cash. He listened to those things for over a quarter century, for free. Which is ABOUT what someone should pay to listen to those. On second thought, one should be PAID to listen to them. In any event, Bob has one pair of my RTA 11t's, and his about to get married son Brad, has the other pair. Once he got introed to decent sound, Bob took off like an audio comet.

    Me owning a $3,500 list home theater receiver, is like a 10 yr old kid owning a Ferrari. It's not going to get used to it's fullest potential. I'm just not all that into HT. Good movies? Yes. Realistic low frequencies? Yes. All the hooplah and **** swirling around the room? No. My HT rig has no surrounds, just an old pair of AR-9's that go as deep as the mid-low 20's, and image like son-of-a-****.

    The deal with this sale was:
    Everything is new. Some pieces were used for photo shoots and other totally unrelated to audio applications. I am not allowed to re-sell the piece. Some products offered were not even Onkyo products. Don told me to make several selections, as he was not first on the employee list to select items for purchase. The receiver was actually my third choice after a Onkyo 150watt, 10" or 12" powered sub (SKA-150?) for $20, and a Onk dvd player for $15.

    As you can see, not much opportunity for me to get anything for anyone else, as we are talking sale as in past tense.

    If somebody see's an FU at the end of the original post, then it's there. If anybody DOESN'T see it, it's plainly not there.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
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  • dthomps
    dthomps Posts: 352
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by George Grand
    ...I'm just not all that into HT. Good movies? Yes. Realistic low frequencies? Yes. All the hooplah and **** swirling around the room? No. My HT rig has no surrounds, just an old pair of AR-9's that go as deep as the mid-low 20's, and image like son-of-a-****....

    Now that was a classic line if I ever read one!:D

    I agree, I don't think that someone posting their good fortune is anything to get in a tissy about, nothing wrong with it.
    Onkyo makes decent stuff, and I don't think that was the point of this thread anyhow.
    I always like hearing about someone else's score, ESPECIALLY someone whose posts I have read numerous times and gotten a lot of information from. Good on ya, George.
    Take care guys. Mike
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited July 2003
    George,
    Yes I'm Dan from a long time ago and I used the sign on name Mantis right from the beginning.

    I don't know what you mean by I think I know so much.But for what it's worth,I work in the field and have for years.I'm not the smartest guy on the block but I know alittle about audio and video.......learn from me if you will or pass.....it's suppost to be fun.

    As far as the deals you got,you know as well as I do they are well below cost,I never saw prices that low from any company.Mirage offered us really killer deals on there speakers a few years back,it was 70% off retail........that doesn't happen everyday.

    Onkyo and Integra are fine products..if you like the way they sound.Personally I like the way Integra lays out there higher end receivers.Integra research is another beast in itself.

    faster100,
    I know exactly what deals can be had from B&K and Rotel.....HELLO I work in the field......You will not find that killer of a deal like George got with them.....no way no how.Companies have B stock ,they are not even close to the killer deal he got......all in all.So suprised I am not.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by George Grand

    Me owning a $3,500 list home theater receiver, is like a 10 yr old kid owning a Ferrari. It's not going to get used to it's fullest potential. I'm just not all that into HT. Good movies? Yes. Realistic low frequencies? Yes. All the hooplah and **** swirling around the room? No. My HT rig has no surrounds, just an old pair of AR-9's that go as deep as the mid-low 20's, and image like son-of-a-****.
    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)


    there is no way a HT rig with two speakers could ever match the surround sound experience like a true 5.1 channel system. George, you're missing much of the HT experiece in my opinion. I enjoy two channel for music only.. i would never again watch a movie in two channel.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,090
    edited July 2003
    I've seen/heard Mr. Grands 'modest' HT rig and to be quite frank, would take it over just about any other 5.1,6.1,123.1 system out there. He isn't missing a THING (unless you count the bad screening of a great Peter Sellers flick).

    When you do business with Mr. Grand, you ALWAYS get more than you bargain for.....

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,090
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by mantis
    George,
    Yes I'm Dan from a long time ago and I used the sign on name Mantis right from the beginning.

    I don't know what you mean by I think I know so much.But for what it's worth,I work in the field and have for years.I'm not the smartest guy on the block but I know alittle about audio and video.......learn from me if you will or pass.....it's suppost to be fun.


    On the sincerety scale of 1-10 (ten being highest)....I'd give that pantload about a -146.


    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited July 2003
    Congrats on the buy George! From the Oinks I have heard, they have strong stereo receivers, but weak HT receivers.

    Mantis,
    Stop talking like Yoda. Your not green....
    and by the way, I agree with Troy....about the 1-10 thing.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2003
    Thanks for the good wishes fellows, and a special thank you to Dan, for offering to be my audio mentor.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited July 2003
    Sean,
    You're not the only one who wants to listen to George's system. If I remember correctly, he has some vintage carver speakers (Amazings?) the size of a fridge for each speaker with tons of woofers and long **** ribbons. With 1K watt/chanel, I'm sure that system can move enough air to tickle your balls. I'd love to hear it too. How bout some pics George?

    Maurice
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited July 2003
    I'm sure I'll stand corrected, but I *believe* he runs Carver Amazing Platinums. Each speaker sports FOUR acoustic suspension 12" woofs , and a SIXTY inch full-range ribbon (that's right boys, the ribbon ALONE will run 20-20).

    I'm guessing as far as 'image' and 'soundstage', Webster's says: see George. You can probably add 'retarded amounts of bass' to the list too.

    As far as demo, buy a ****' ticket, and head to the back of the **** line, I've been waiting 3+ yrs, no **** cuts, got it?

    Cheers,
    Rooster
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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