So, yeah, those 3D TV's?

Jstas

Apparently nobody is buying them.

http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/124003/report-3d-televisions-not-sellingyet

TV manufacturers are trying their best to make 2010 the Year of 3D TV, but according to a report at DisplaySearch, consumers aren't cooperating. I doubt this news comes as a surprise to most of us; I personally can't think of anyone who rushed out to buy a 3D TV.

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But the stats are even worse than I thought they'd be. DisplaySearch estimates that 3.2 million 3D TVs will be shipped in 2010 . Note that's shipped, not sold. 3.2 million equates to 2% of all flat panel displays shipped (as far as I can ascertain, that's worldwide shipments). So yeah, there are not many 3D TVs being shipped this year.

But wait, that's not the end of the bad news. In Western Europe (the only region where they offered this data point) sales of 3D glasses are less than 1 per 3D set sold. In other words, a lot of Western Europeans who buy a TV with 3D capability don't even bother to buy the glasses to use that feature. Presumably they're either waiting for better glasses prices, more content, or the TV they picked just happened to have 3D capability but it wasn't a feature they were really interested in.

Here's the DisplaySearch article:
http://www.displaysearch.com/cps/rde/xchg/displaysearch/hs.xsl/101012_3d_tv_not_growing_as_fast_as_tv_makers_expected_in_2010.asp

Hopefully this is the first toll of the death knell for the horrible idea that is 3D TV.

F1nut

Hopefully this is the first toll of the death knell for the horrible idea that is 3D TV.

Agreed.

kevhed72

I read somehwere else that, overall, all flat panel TV inventories are building and there will be deals to be had this holiday season...which is what I am holding out for. As far as HD sets, I understand the Panny VT-25 is an excellent 2D plasma, although it has 3D capability (I'm not going for the 3D thing either).

exalted512

kevhed72 wrote: »

I read somehwere else that, overall, all flat panel TV inventories are building and there will be deals to be had this holiday season...which is what I am holding out for. As far as HD sets, I understand the Panny VT-25 is an excellent 2D plasma, although it has 3D capability (I'm not going for the 3D thing either).

I've actually heard the opposite. But I hope you're right. We're looking for a new TV towards Black Friday...and it could possibly be *gasp* a 3D tv!:)
-Cody

[Deleted User]

The great thing about 3D TV? It lowered the prices of all the others.

RuSsMaN

I live my life in 3D, I don't ohh and ahh when something moves towards me or away from me. I'm actually typing this post in 3D right now.

Slinger182

halenhoang wrote: »

The great thing about 3D TV? It lowered the prices of all the others.

Agreed! Thinking about ordering one of these.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+/+58%22+Class+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Plasma+HDTV/9904681.p?id=1218192432502&skuId=9904681

jflail2

Slinger182 wrote: »

Agreed! Thinking about ordering one of these.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+/+58%22+Class+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Plasma+HDTV/9904681.p?id=1218192432502&skuId=9904681

That thing is svelte.

So has the burn in issue for plasmas been resolved?

And I won't be joining the 3d circus either, but I can echo others sentiments that I hope enough people do to continue to drive down pricing on 2d models...

cnh

3D? My set is only 1080i and a smaller version of Lou's Toshiba HD-CRT/RPTV going 5 years strong--knock on wood? I buy when that DIES.

We have a smaller Olevia LCD in the bedroom. 2D 720P of course....bought for about 300 a few years ago.

I use my PROGRESSIVE SCAN GLASSES with that one!

cnh

bigaudiofanatic

This means that my new tv I buy on BF is probably going to be a steal. Not to mention the new 3d tvs that will not need glasses come out next year.

j allen

RuSsMaN wrote: »

I live my life in 3D, I don't ohh and ahh when something moves towards me or away from me. I'm actually typing this post in 3D right now.

Wait, what? Have I been missing out on something all my life? I thought the world was just a big bas-relief...

cokewithvanilla

I really hope the 3D thing dies. I've always seen it as a pretty dumb idea.

steveinaz

Upgrade/change of format overload--people are tired of the game.

HHStuart

jflail2 wrote: »

That thing is svelte.

So has the burn in issue for plasmas been resolved?

And I won't be joining the 3d circus either, but I can echo others sentiments that I hope enough people do to continue to drive down pricing on 2d models...

I think the burn in issue for plasmas has been resolved. I left my Plasma on over night with the OPPO on without any disc in it. The OPPO word burned in and I could notice it in the clouds of a certain Blu Ray disc. After a few days it went away, and I have never seen it again.

exalted512

I don't understand why it seems so many people actually hate 3D. I do understand that its not for everyone but it just seems strange to me when people are like "I hope it dies"

I think its pretty cool to be able to see the depth in a movie...and again, I understand its not for everyone, but instead of the "not my cup of tea, don't really see the point attitude"....its the "man I hate 3D and hope this fad just dies" attitude. I mean...no one is forcing anyone to watch anything in 3D. It doesn't seem to me that anyone is trying to force feed 3D down someones throat....so anyone care to explain this to me?
-Cody

Demiurge

RuSsMaN wrote: »

I live my life in 3D, I don't ohh and ahh when something moves towards me or away from me. I'm actually typing this post in 3D right now.

We don't see in 3D. Its just depth perception.

kuntasensei

exalted512 wrote: »

I don't understand why it seems so many people actually hate 3D. I do understand that its not for everyone but it just seems strange to me when people are like "I hope it dies"

I think its pretty cool to be able to see the depth in a movie...and again, I understand its not for everyone, but instead of the "not my cup of tea, don't really see the point attitude"....its the "man I hate 3D and hope this fad just dies" attitude. I mean...no one is forcing anyone to watch anything in 3D. It doesn't seem to me that anyone is trying to force feed 3D down someones throat....so anyone care to explain this to me?
-Cody

I want 3-D movies to fail because:
1) I can't see it. Because I had eye surgery when I was young, my eyes are apparently misaligned just enough to prevent it.
2) Movies made for 3-D often do the stupid gimmicks like throw things at the screen and linger on them for no reason, just like the old red/blue anaglyph 3-D movies... which, when seen in 2-D, just looks like bad filmmaking.
3) The push for 3-D has resulted in nothing but movies with weak plots that are of little cinematic value. And yes, I include Avatar. Directors are leaning too much on the gimmick to shore up a movie that they know would be half-assed on its own accord.
4) The price increase in the theater for a 3-D movie has made it more economical for the majority of consumers to just buy the damn movie... or get it from Redbox on the cheap. They have essentially destroyed the theater experience being the preferable way to see a movie. Hence why so many of us here have home theaters in the first place.
5) HDTV penetration hadn't even reached critical mass yet... and introducing a new 3-D variant segments the market. True, the positive side effect is that it drives the 2-D sets down significantly, but with glasses-free technology on the horizon (and preferable because no one likes to wear the stupid glasses), the current 3-D sets are primed for quick obsolescence.

I can't speak for others here... but those are a few of my reasons. 3-D is just as much a gimmick today as it was 20 years ago. Stop making 3-D movies and start making GOOD movies again!

nadams

kevhed72

Slinger182 wrote: »

Agreed! Thinking about ordering one of these.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+/+58%22+Class+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Plasma+HDTV/9904681.p?id=1218192432502&skuId=9904681

That's actually not a bad price, considering its Best Buy. It also seems the 54" G25 models are running pretty cheap now on the web - around 1300.00 on Amazon with shipping.

RuSsMaN

Demiurge wrote: »

We don't see in 3D. Its just depth perception.

Cool, when are the depth perception tv's coming out?

Demiurge

russman wrote: »

cool, when are the depth perception tv's coming out?

1926?

schutz2106

I went in to look at a Rotel amp a couple months ago and the sales guy was trying to get me to put on a pair of glasses for the show they had on 3d demo. It about made me sick looking at the screen and I told the guy if I gotta buy glasses to make it look good no way. He was kinda offended

Ericw2431

As far as plasma burn in it has been resolved wel for newer panasonic models i have one leave it on all the time sumtimes over night and i wake and change the channel and even play games on the ps3 BC2 =] and no burn in!!!......seriously at first i was scared but now not an issue and as for tht 58" tv at 1300 its not bad at all im actully think bout gettin it! not for the 3d but for its size and if 3d does become a hit i wnt be behind!

Slinger182

kevhed72 wrote: »

That's actually not a bad price, considering its Best Buy. It also seems the 54" G25 models are running pretty cheap now on the web - around 1300.00 on Amazon with shipping.

For some reason getting a plasma shipped doesn't seem like a good idea but I could be way off base.

As far as 3DTV I just haven't liked what I've seen so far. Could be cool with a projector though. I'm still in the wait and see what happens camp.

exalted512

kuntasensei wrote: »

I want 3-D movies to fail because:
1) I can't see it. Because I had eye surgery when I was young, my eyes are apparently misaligned just enough to prevent it.

I really dont see this a valid reason to actually hate 3D movies though. I mean, I don't make $250,000/yr...but that doesnt mean I hate the people that do.

kuntasensei wrote: »

2) Movies made for 3-D often do the stupid gimmicks like throw things at the screen and linger on them for no reason, just like the old red/blue anaglyph 3-D movies... which, when seen in 2-D, just looks like bad filmmaking.

Seems to me that was more of past 3D movies than present day ones.

kuntasensei wrote: »

3) The push for 3-D has resulted in nothing but movies with weak plots that are of little cinematic value. And yes, I include Avatar. Directors are leaning too much on the gimmick to shore up a movie that they know would be half-assed on its own accord.

I thought Avatar was a great movie...but that aside, its not like every movie is in 3D. I don't like chic flicks, but I dont hate them because of it.

kuntasensei wrote: »

4) The price increase in the theater for a 3-D movie has made it more economical for the majority of consumers to just buy the damn movie... or get it from Redbox on the cheap. They have essentially destroyed the theater experience being the preferable way to see a movie. Hence why so many of us here have home theaters in the first place.

I dont buy that at all. Pretty much everyone here had home theaters long before 3D made a come back. And it seems most of the movies in 3D in the theater here also play in regular where you can purchase the regular movie price.

kuntasensei wrote: »

5) HDTV penetration hadn't even reached critical mass yet... and introducing a new 3-D variant segments the market. True, the positive side effect is that it drives the 2-D sets down significantly, but with glasses-free technology on the horizon (and preferable because no one likes to wear the stupid glasses), the current 3-D sets are primed for quick obsolescence.

So what about blue ray and HD? I never heard anyone here saying "I wish those formats would just die"

Seems like all those are great reasons to not want go see a 3D movie, but it seems like none of those are reasons to wish the format as a whole to fail.
-Cody

txcoastal1

Between holidays and superbowl great buys will be had others are waiting for CES to see whats new that's me I am in need (ok want) of a 65" but Ill wait. This last year has been good tech competitions from AV to phones and will bring us better products and great deals for the ones on a budget= good for all. As for 3-D still evolving and infant but can be fun especially with the "kids"

F1nut

3-D is just as much a gimmick today as it was 20 years ago. Stop making 3-D movies and start making GOOD movies again!

There ya go!!!

tonyb

I dunno...**** could be pretty darn interesting in 3d.

dorourke07

Here is a link to a CNN Money article on the oversupply of LCD tv's. It looks like the next 60 days will be the best time to buy.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/23/technology/lcd_tv_prices/index.htm

messiah

3d tv's are just silly. Make better movies!!

bigaudiofanatic

kuntasensei wrote: »

I want 3-D movies to fail because:
1) I can't see it. Because I had eye surgery when I was young, my eyes are apparently misaligned just enough to prevent it.
2) Movies made for 3-D often do the stupid gimmicks like throw things at the screen and linger on them for no reason, just like the old red/blue anaglyph 3-D movies... which, when seen in 2-D, just looks like bad filmmaking.
3) The push for 3-D has resulted in nothing but movies with weak plots that are of little cinematic value. And yes, I include Avatar. Directors are leaning too much on the gimmick to shore up a movie that they know would be half-assed on its own accord.
4) The price increase in the theater for a 3-D movie has made it more economical for the majority of consumers to just buy the damn movie... or get it from Redbox on the cheap. They have essentially destroyed the theater experience being the preferable way to see a movie. Hence why so many of us here have home theaters in the first place.
5) HDTV penetration hadn't even reached critical mass yet... and introducing a new 3-D variant segments the market. True, the positive side effect is that it drives the 2-D sets down significantly, but with glasses-free technology on the horizon (and preferable because no one likes to wear the stupid glasses), the current 3-D sets are primed for quick obsolescence.

I can't speak for others here... but those are a few of my reasons. 3-D is just as much a gimmick today as it was 20 years ago. Stop making 3-D movies and start making GOOD movies again!

I agree up until the avatar statement but that is me, avatar was like the iphone it changed things but unlike phones where they have gotten better people have just came out with crappy movies just because they are in 3d.