Yamaha's latest stereo receivers

Danny Tse
Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
edited October 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited October 2010
    Wow!! Hot looking. Yamaha Stereo receivers always have sounded really good. I'd like to check out this new line. A nice affordable pair of Polk speakers with one of these would make for a very nice on a budget 2 channel system.
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  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited October 2010
    any idea if they'll be 4ohm stable for those with LSI 7s and 9s.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2010
    coolsax wrote: »
    any idea if they'll be 4ohm stable for those with LSI 7s and 9s.

    Even on the $330.00 model, there's a switch on the back panel that you can set for 4 ohm speakers.
  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited October 2010
    They look like rebadged R8s from the 80s.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited October 2010
    I have always wanted to try a yamaha receiver as I like the brightness for movies but I'm not sure about listening to music on a yammy
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2010
    I have always wanted to try a yamaha receiver as I like the brightness for movies but I'm not sure about listening to music on a yammy
    Keiko wrote: »
    I've heard that about the HT AVRs, but I can tell you on mine, it's not bright at all, IMO. Detailed, yes, but not the least bit harsh. Adding tubes only enhanced it.

    Whether a component/speaker is "bright" or not is totally subjective. Only the listener can truly say whether it's "bright" or not. Also dependent on system synergy with other components in the system.
  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited October 2010
    i've also heard that higher end yammys aren't bright at all and I would guess considering who these will be aimed for (stereo listeners) that they probably are not the bright yammys that we are accustomed to in their mid and entry level AVRS but I could be wrong.
    Main 2ch -
    BlueSound Node->Ethereal optical cable->Peachtree Audio Nova 150->GoldenEar Triton 2+
    TT - Pro-ject Classic SB with Sumiko Bluepoint.

    TV 3.1 system -
    Denon 3500 -> Dynaudio Excite 32/22
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,805
    edited October 2010
    They look sorta familiar, in a good way, don't they?

    DSCN3118.jpg
    R1000front.jpg

    Wonder what the innards look like?
  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited October 2010
    Very nice. Sub output on the lower model too. They look great!
  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited October 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    I recall one person on here awhile back that had an RX-797 driving his LSi9s. Can't remember now who it was, but I recall him liking the combo. I have a 797 driving a pair of RTi6s and dig it. Correct, there is a switch on the rear panel specifying 4 - 8 ohm.

    Hey Mike...I have the 797 too. When I first saw the pic and desciption, I assumed that the model pictured above is its updated version. What do you think?

    I bought my 797 just a few months before I joined Club Polk (Feb. 08). I am still very happy with it. We have it in the bedroom, driving a pair of RtiA3s with a lower-end Marantz CDP, Signal Cable Analog II ICs, and some speaker wire I need to upgrade...I think it sounds wonderful for what it is. Very robust, don't you think? I also really like the feel and look of it. Solid and classy. When I started to get into separates I still didn't think of selling the Yamaha for a second. I got mine from Audio Advisor for $350 and must say it was worth every penny. Its a keeper. In fact, its one of the few products I've reviewed at Amazon (because I was so impressed with it)

    Aside from some changes in the front layout and remote, I'm wondering what differentiates the new model from the old one.

    EDIT: I see you answered my first question while I was typing this post .:cool:
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited October 2010
    I like the new models with retro uncluttered Yammy look of old.
  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited October 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    That 700 would probably match up nice with that S1800, cs. ;)



    yeah I wouldn't be surprised if it did.. if I see reviews that show that these are not your typical bright yammys I might have to consider the receiver as a pre perhaps.... shame the integrated doesn't have pre outs
    Main 2ch -
    BlueSound Node->Ethereal optical cable->Peachtree Audio Nova 150->GoldenEar Triton 2+
    TT - Pro-ject Classic SB with Sumiko Bluepoint.

    TV 3.1 system -
    Denon 3500 -> Dynaudio Excite 32/22
  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited October 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    Sharp! Those rectangular dials are somewhat nostalgic to the receivers they made back in the 70's.

    Preamps, too
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,450
    edited October 2010
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    Even on the $330.00 model, there's a switch on the back panel that you can set for 4 ohm speakers.

    I'd leave that little switch alone. On my Rxv992 when i used the switch on my 4ohm speakers the 992 just shut down when i put it back to 8ohm it worked fine although i could not turn it up very loud without it shutting off.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited October 2010
    Can someone post the spec's of these things @ 4 ohms...thinking about grabbing one to replace my Denon 1610 since I really dont need 5.1 in my office, just a good 2.1 setup :)
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2010
    J&R have these Yamaha receivers on pre-order for less than MSRP with free shipping.
  • TomB
    TomB Posts: 106
    edited October 2010
    How would these units compare to the generally well-regarded Harman/Kardon two-channel receivers? I've been looking at them for a while, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
  • Outfitter03
    Outfitter03 Posts: 563
    edited October 2010
    From the manual:

    The R-S700 RMS power rating is 100 Watts per channel 8 ohm, 120 Watts per channel 6 ohm. Rating at 20hz- 20khz The Dynamic power rating is 140 Watts per channel 8 ohm, 170 Watts per channel 6 ohm and 220 Watts per channel 4 ohm.

    Just for the heck of it I called Yamaha New Product Information number. The tech rep was clueless and that is being kind. I gave him the model number and he told me they don't make this model. Then I waited for him to find it on their web site. Then I asked if he had any 4 ohm power ratings and he said their stereos will not work with 4 ohm speakers.:eek: I said this model has an impedance matching switch with a 4 ohm setting and he said he had never heard of that. He already had taken my email address down so I asked if someone could email a 4 ohm RMS rating and he said well I will put it into our system and we will see what they can do. From everything I was told I kind of doubt that will happen.
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited October 2010
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    Whether a component/speaker is "bright" or not is totally subjective. Only the listener can truly say whether it's "bright" or not. Also dependent on system synergy with other components in the system.
    I fully agree with you, I heard and read so often the comment on Yammy being bright (especially with Polk speakers) but I never experienced that with my HTR-6080 which drives the HT set-up.
    coolsax wrote: »
    i've also heard that higher end yammys aren't bright at all and I would guess considering who these will be aimed for (stereo listeners) that they probably are not the bright yammys that we are accustomed to in their mid and entry level AVRS but I could be wrong.
    I always like and trusted Yammys afterall, they been in the music industry for so many years that they ought to know how to design stereo receivers to reproduce music adequately. I think those new stereo receivers will be welcomed by many (my self included) as they manufacture strong receivers and AVR and pricing is also friendly. I like the fact that they rate their outputs in RMS value versus the inflated dynamic marketting power which is often used nowadays (even by them at times).

    I never realized they were still also making component stereo amps; http://www.yamaha.ca/av/stereocomp/AS2000.jsp
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  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited October 2010
    Now that looks nice.. love the silver with wood sides
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    TT - Pro-ject Classic SB with Sumiko Bluepoint.

    TV 3.1 system -
    Denon 3500 -> Dynaudio Excite 32/22
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    I never realized they were still also making component stereo amps

    I am somewhat surprised that Yamaha still has the MX-D1 power amp in its current US lineup.

    Just $5,000 and 500 watts/channel. Dynamic power is 1,000 watts/channel into 4 or 8 ohms :eek:

    yamaha-mx-d1.79561.jpg
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,805
    edited October 2010
    From the manual:

    The R-S700 RMS power rating is 100 Watts per channel 8 ohm, 120 Watts per channel 6 ohm. Rating at 20hz- 20khz The Dynamic power rating is 140 Watts per channel 8 ohm, 170 Watts per channel 6 ohm and 220 Watts per channel 4 ohm.

    Just for the heck of it I called Yamaha New Product Information number. The tech rep was clueless and that is being kind. I gave him the model number and he told me they don't make this model. Then I waited for him to find it on their web site... He already had taken my email address down... I kind of doubt that will happen.

    FWIW I actually recently put myself on some sort of Yamaha mailing list for updates (though I have not bought a piece of new Yamaha equipment since ca. 1983); we'll see if anything comes through on this (truth be told) rather elegant looking new hardware.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited October 2010
    Remembered my login for Yamaha's download stuff and answered my own question :). For those wondering, per the manuals here are the spec's for each

    R-S300:
    Minimum RMS Output: (8 ohm, 20 Hz to 20Khz, .04THD) = 50 w + 50 w
    Dynamic Power per channel (IHF): 8/6/4/2 = 70/77/89/100 W

    R-S500:
    Minimum RMS Output: (8 ohm, 20 Hz to 20Khz, .04THD) = 100 w + 100 w
    Dynamic Power per channel (IHF): 8/6/4/2 = 105/125/150/178 W

    R-S700:
    Minimum RMS Output: (8 ohm, 20 Hz to 20Khz, .04THD) = 120 w + 120 w
    Dynamic Power per channel (IHF): 8/6/4/2 = 140/170/220/290 W

    I would try to upload images of the specifications page, but the PDF's are locked so I cant do that and I am too lazy to find a workaround (or use one).
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,805
    edited October 2010
    "CTRL + PRINT SCRN" is the (usual) 'workaround' :-)
    Just sayin'.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited October 2010
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    "CTRL + PRINT SCRN" is the (usual) 'workaround' :-)
    Just sayin'.

    True, but then I have to upload them to Photobucket (which has a limted bandwidth for pics since I dont use the pay version) after I email them home (wont upload anything from work :)). And I am lazy and at work... ;)
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2010
    Just out of curiosity, why the interest in the Yamaha stereo receivers?

    I am asking because there're less than 70 views, with no response, to the thread of the new Yamaha integrated amp that featured similar retro styling.

    FWIW, I like to see and hear these receivers myself.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,805
    edited October 2010
    True, but then I have to upload them to Photobucket (which has a limted bandwidth for pics since I dont use the pay version) after I email them home (wont upload anything from work :)). And I am lazy and at work... ;)

    yeah, me too.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited October 2010
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, why the interest in the Yamaha stereo receivers?

    I am asking because there're less than 70 views, with no response, to the thread of the new Yamaha integrated amp that featured similar retro styling.

    FWIW, I like to see and hear these receivers myself.

    Wow, I didnt even see that post. Liking the A-S500 much much more personally. I myself would use this for my office setup since I have given up on using it as a secondary HT system but use it more for listening to Pandora.

    As such in my case the Denon 1610 works, but I am tired of dealing with scaling issues when sending video and audio out via my ATI 5450 graphics card. I figure if I get a nice stereo reciever and add a very good sound card (sending the signal out via RCA) I can fix that while getting a little bit better sound. That way I have the HDMI straight to the monitor and the sound to the integrated amp and then to my speakers. Plan on adding the PSW125 from downstairs to the office when I upgrade my main rig to a single (and then dual) SVS PC-12NSD DSP's.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2010
    For those who are interested, here I present another alternative....the Pioneer Elite SX-A6-J stereo receiver on clearance directly from Pioneer for $280.00 (formerly $500.00)

    Pioneer Elite SX-A6-J stereo receiver
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited October 2010
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    I am somewhat surprised that Yamaha still has the MX-D1 power amp in its current US lineup.

    Just $5,000 and 500 watts/channel. Dynamic power is 1,000 watts/channel into 4 or 8 ohms :eek:

    yamaha-mx-d1.79561.jpg
    Can't seem to find the specs for that toy. Has to be some good at that pricing.
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