Getting a new pc!

cfrizz

Well I'm starting to have trouble with my 8 year old pc. I think the hard drive is slowly dying, and I can't afford to be without a pc. So I just placed an order for a new one from PC's For Everyone. Which is where I got my current one from. I kinda got lucky with having problems now since it coincides with out tax free weekend! Here is what I'm getting. Tell me what you think.

Processor Dual-Core Intel® Pentium® G6950 2.80GHz 3MB Smart Cache (VT) Motherboard Intel® DH55TC - mATX - Intel® H55 Chipset
Memory 2 x Crucial 2GB PC3-10600 1333MHz DDR3
Chassis In Win S605 - ATX Mid Tower - 350 Watt Power Supply - Black
Power Supply Included Power Supply (Chassis must include power to select this option)
Hard Drive 500GB SATA 7200RPM - 3.5" - Seagate Barracuda® 7200.12
5.25" Bay Samsung 22x DVD+/-RW Dual Layer LightScribe (SATA)
3.5" Bay 19-in-1 3.5" Card Reader (Black)
Video Card Integrated Video (Included with Motherboard)
Monitor 22" LCD - 1680 x 1050 WSXGA+ - ASUS VW224U (Speakers)
Peripherals Microsoft Wired Desktop 400 Keyboard and Mouse (USB)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit)
Warranty Three Year Warranty

kawizx9r

How much did it come out to?

The specs aren't bad if you're not doing anything crazy. I've never been a fan though of pre-built PC's, or those flimsy PSU's that come specifically with said-case.

cokewithvanilla

kawizx9r wrote: »

How much did it come out to?

The specs aren't bad if you're not doing anything crazy. I've never been a fan though of pre-built PC's, or those flimsy PSU's that come specifically with said-case.

Along with the cheapo motherboards.

kawizx9r

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

Along with the cheapo motherboards.

That too.

The fact that it comes with a Dual-core has me wondering if the OP spent a bit too much :eek:

Hope not!

SivaNevets

the cpu is outdated..i strongly recommend AMD for low budget PC.

cokewithvanilla

kawizx9r wrote: »

That too.

The fact that it comes with a Dual-core has me wondering if the OP spent a bit too much :eek:

Hope not!

I wasn't gonna comment. Large manufacturers and especially those little shops that build PC's, have been ripping people off as a part of their everyday operation.

However, if you're looking for a cheap pc, the big manufacturers (dell, hp) offer something that is really hard to beat. I've seen quad core 8 gig ram pcs go for 300 dollars on buy.com.... you can't build that for $300. When you start getting into "customizing your pc" on their websites, the prices skyrocket because they have to start replacing the crap mobos and PSU's with decent stuff simply when you check the box "GTX 280".

cfrizz

kawizx9r wrote: »

How much did it come out to?

The specs aren't bad if you're not doing anything crazy. I've never been a fan though of pre-built PC's, or those flimsy PSU's that come specifically with said-case.

Price came to $847.00

I'm not going to be doing anything crazy with my system & the one I have now is built like a tank & lasted for 8 years. At some point I might bring it down the street for a checkup & repair & it will probably last me another 7 years.

I know the cpu is a bit outdated I could have gotten a different one. I still might, I'm going to call them on Monday when they are open to discuss some of it. But I needed to keep this under $1000.00. I was originally looking at Micro Centers Power Spec pc's but I didn't really like any of the offering & it came out to more money.

If I can get 8 years out of this one I'll be happy.

heiney9

I dunno Cathy, not trying to be negative but honest, that seems like ALOT of $$$ for what you got. I paid about that for my 8 year old Dell Insperion before prices started to drop radically. I've been pricing Dell's lately with more cutting edge specs for about 30% less w/free shipping.

If it were me I'd do some more research because $850 for that is pretty high, IMO.

I'd highly recommend you log on to Dell and build a system for comparison. You can get a really nice Dell, I mean really nice for about $550-600.

Good luck

H9

cokewithvanilla

cfrizz wrote: »

Price came to $847.00.

Yikes!

I don't wanna say something wrong or anything... but you can easily get something similar for $400 (sans monitor). Monitors are like $150.

Here's a 2 second search at buy.com of a similar pc
http://www.buy.com/prod/dell-vostro-468-5909-desktop-computer-intel-core-2-duo-e7500-dual-core/q/loc/101/214679125.html
http://www.buy.com/prod/emachines-et1831-07-desktop-pc-intel-pentium-e5400-2-70ghz-4gb-750gb/q/loc/101/213686630.html

$386.99 and $389.99

These guys are charging you like $300++ labor.

Edit: just spec'd out a dell for $858 w/ monitor and keyboard brand new i5 quad core processor, Radeon 5450 graphics, 21.5 inch monitor, wireless mouse and keyboard. That's many times better than what they have for you... and I still think that price is high. In my opinion, the guys that are trying to sell you this need a good kick in the nadgers.

mdaudioguy

heiney9 wrote: »

I dunno Cathy, not trying to be negative but honest, that seems like ALOT of $$$ for what you got. I paid about that for my 8 year old Dell Insperion before prices started to drop radically. I've been pricing Dell's lately with more cutting edge specs for about 30% less w/free shipping.

If it were me I'd do some more research because $850 for that is pretty high, IMO.

I'd highly recommend you log on to Dell and build a system for comparison. You can get a really nice Dell, I mean really nice for about $550-600.

Good luck

H9

+1 For the most part, a PC is a PC, and this one seems to be pretty expensive for those specs. Upgrading the processor is only going to add to the price. I don't see it, but is there anything this company offers that adds value to your purchase? There are many places online (most better known) where you can get PCs like this - TigerDirect, NewEgg, CompUSA, Dell, etc...

SivaNevets

cfrizz wrote: »

Price came to $847.00

I'm not going to be doing anything crazy with my system & the one I have now is built like a tank & lasted for 8 years. At some point I might bring it down the street for a checkup & repair & it will probably last me another 7 years.

I know the cpu is a bit outdated I could have gotten a different one. I still might, I'm going to call them on Monday when they are open to discuss some of it. But I needed to keep this under $1000.00. I was originally looking at Micro Centers Power Spec pc's but I didn't really like any of the offering & it came out to more money.

If I can get 8 years out of this one I'll be happy.

for $850 you get get a new pc with decent performance (dedicate video card) + monitor, the one u listed is about $400 worth.

just took a quick look at bestbuy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+Slimline+s5510y+Desktop+%26+23%22+LCD+Monitor+Package/9999133000050030.p?id=pcmprd133000050030&skuId=9999133000050030

this one is pretty balanced for the price, it has a buildin Nvidia video card so u can even do some light gaming (much better than GMA intel build in.):D

WilliamM2

I hope it's not too late to cancel the order, that price is way too high.

coolsax

i seconding this as well.. 850 is way too much for that.. you can get quad cores for cheaper than that.

cokewithvanilla

coolsax wrote: »

i seconding this as well.. 850 is way too much for that.. you can get quad cores for cheaper than that.

You can get quad core laptops for cheaper than that

John30_30

cfrizz wrote: »

Price came to $847.00

I'm not going to be doing anything crazy with my system & the one I have now is built like a tank & lasted for 8 years. At some point I might bring it down the street for a checkup & repair & it will probably last me another 7 years.

I know the cpu is a bit outdated I could have gotten a different one. I still might, I'm going to call them on Monday when they are open to discuss some of it. But I needed to keep this under $1000.00. I was originally looking at Micro Centers Power Spec pc's but I didn't really like any of the offering & it came out to more money.

If I can get 8 years out of this one I'll be happy.

As has been noted by others, that hardware list is underwhelming. Seriously,
here's a Gateway Buy.com has that's beefier than that for under 600.
Gateway desktop buy.com and no tax.

(no affil)

Obviously if you got 8 years out of the last one, you're not going to be hotrodding, but still.
Do a comparison shop with Newegg or Tigerdirect. Tigerdirect desktops


ALL TOGETHER GUYS:
DON'T BUY IT!

cfrizz

The value to ME is that these pc's are put together here in Massachusetts. I know that I'm paying a premium for that, and if the first one that I bought 12 years ago had been a peice of crap, I most definately would have gone someplace else for my other machines.

They have been in business here in MA for over 24 years, they must be doing something right.

When on the rare occurance (virus & video card) something went wrong I was able to hop into a cab or have a friend drive me to Cambridge where they fixed the problems. I only had to pay for parts & not labor.

For me it was worth the extra money paid up front to not have the hassles after purchase. And the quality of the machines have more than proven themselves.

They out grew their tiny facility in Cambridge & now reside in Norwood. While I just can't hop into a cab & get to them, I'm not worried about needing to do so since I've only had to go back twice for repairs in the 12 years that I have used them for my pc needs.

Some of you **** & moan about Polk speakers being made in China. Well my computers are assembled here in the good ol U. S. of A! I think it's worth the extra price don't you?

http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/

cokewithvanilla

cfrizz wrote: »

Some of you **** & moan about Polk speakers being made in China. Well my computers are assembled here in the good ol U. S. of A! I think it's worth the extra price don't you?

http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/

Uh.. no. I'm not gonna get royally ripped off in the name of "The good ol USA". There is no "magic" in putting a pc together. It is not as if these people take special care or something. All the hardware in that PC is from china, they just put it together here. I've been putting my pcs together since I was 12 (they all still work today, and have been passed down from person to person). That's how easy it is to do. In fact, not one of those PC's has yet to suffer a 'problem' that required anyone to take it in for repair.

What these guys are doing is ripping you off. It doesn't matter where in the country they are built. You can buy two of those for the price they are charging you, no **** they can afford to service it for free!

That's my opinion, if you're comfort is worth 2x the price (and every major company has a good warranty), then go for it! It's what makes you happy that counts

mdaudioguy

Well, you did ask what we thought... What really matters is that you're happy and satisfied, and it seems you have been and probably will be. Good luck!

WilliamM2

Paying double for local assembly, which only takes about 15 minutes. Makes sense to me.

cokewithvanilla

WilliamM2 wrote: »

Paying double for local assembly, which only takes about 15 minutes. Makes sense to me.

Oh come on man, between dropping those little screws and installing the OS, it's gotta take at least an hour.... half of it is spent at lunch waiting for W7 to load... but hey, their time is worth $300 an hour, right?

and hey, when their POS breaks down and you take it back, they fix it for free (only charging you for the faulty hardware that is covered under warranty)... they sound like some pretty upstanding people :rolleyes:

thsmith

cfrizz wrote: »

The value to ME is that these pc's are put together here in Massachusetts. I know that I'm paying a premium for that, and if the first one that I bought 12 years ago had been a peice of crap, I most definately would have gone someplace else for my other machines.

They have been in business here in MA for over 24 years, they must be doing something right.

When on the rare occurance (virus & video card) something went wrong I was able to hop into a cab or have a friend drive me to Cambridge where they fixed the problems. I only had to pay for parts & not labor.

For me it was worth the extra money paid up front to not have the hassles after purchase. And the quality of the machines have more than proven themselves.

They out grew their tiny facility in Cambridge & now reside in Norwood. While I just can't hop into a cab & get to them, I'm not worried about needing to do so since I've only had to go back twice for repairs in the 12 years that I have used them for my pc needs.

Some of you **** & moan about Polk speakers being made in China. Well my computers are assembled here in the good ol U. S. of A! I think it's worth the extra price don't you?

http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/

Sounds like piece of mind is important to you and is usually worth paying extra for.

Have fun and enjoy.

The only thing to watch for is the 350 power supply. I would not add a seperate video card or a second large HDD without uping the power supply.

The PSU could be the problem you are starting to see fail on existing computer.

cfrizz

So let me get this straight, you all would put these AMERICANS out of work to have cheap labor in China do this instead huh? And you wonder why unemployment is so high?

If one of you want to build me a pc & send it to me for $400.00 do let me know.

cfrizz

thsmith wrote: »

Sounds like piece of mind is important to you and is usually worth paying extra for.

Have fun and enjoy.

The only thing to watch for is the 350 power supply. I would not add a seperate video card or a second large HDD without uping the power supply.

The PSU could be the problem you are starting to see fail on existing computer.

Thank you, it is important to me & I'm glad to support my local economy.

I don't intend to add anything else to it...right now, who knows what new doohicky they will come up with in the future.

After 8 years of daily use, my current machine doesn't owe me anything, and it is probably fixable, I will deal with that after I get my new one.

cokewithvanilla

cfrizz wrote: »

So let me get this straight, you all would put these AMERICANS out of work to have cheap labor in China do this instead huh? And you wonder why unemployment is so high?

If one of you want to build me a pc & send it to me for $400.00 do let me know.

Yep, I would put them out of business. It's simple economics, if they can't operate at reasonable costs, they go. Besides, they seem pretty untrustworthy... putting together crap for a lot of money and charging for parts that are probably under warranty (free).

hey, I'm american too, aren't you just dying to pay me $300 extra for the job?

edit: i can see charging more for quality, but they are using the same hardware as everyone else. Also, they seem to be using aged hardware, bottom of the barrel PSU's... they just seem sketchy.

audiobliss

cfrizz wrote: »

So let me get this straight, you all would put these AMERICANS out of work to have cheap labor in China do this instead huh? And you wonder why unemployment is so high?

If one of you want to build me a pc & send it to me for $400.00 do let me know.

There's a difference between supporting the American working public, which I'm all for, and supporting highway robbery.

I understand where you're coming from and why you feel the desire to buy from them, but you're just not seeing this situation clearly. Are you rich? Do you just have too many 50's in your wallet? 100's on the nightstand? If so, go for it. But do be sure and know that if you were to have a clear view of the situation you would be VERY butt-sore over this transaction.

And, just fyi, Sami has offered several times to build computers for forum members.

cokewithvanilla

I'm not trying to be harsh. Just trying to impose upon you how badly they are **** you. They cannot be honest if they screw people that bad.

and sure, buy the parts, I'll build the PC... no labor costs.

cfrizz

Well aren't you jumping to conclusions and making wild assumptions. My warranty had long expired when I took the machine back for service.

Crap doesn't generally last for 8 years. Labor costs money, try hiring a plumber, electrician, etc. The parts are the cheapest part of the deal. What costs is the labor.

No doubt you know what it actually costs to build that machine from scratch right?

But then no doubt you would be willing to pay outrageous money to have a "Name" brand piece of audio gear. And all you are really paying for is the "Name"

Face

cfrizz wrote: »

Here is what I'm getting. Tell me what you think.

cfrizz wrote: »

So let me get this straight, you all would put these AMERICANS out of work to have cheap labor in China do this instead huh? And you wonder why unemployment is so high?

If one of you want to build me a pc & send it to me for $400.00 do let me know.

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

and sure, buy the parts, I'll build the PC... no labor costs.

cfrizz wrote: »

Well aren't you jumping to conclusions and making wild assumptions. My warranty had long expired when I took the machine back for service.

Crap doesn't generally last for 8 years. Labor costs money, try hiring a plumber, electrician, etc. The parts are the cheapest part of the deal. What costs is the labor.

No doubt you know what it actually costs to build that machine from scratch right?

But then no doubt you would be willing to pay outrageous money to have a "Name" brand piece of audio gear. And all you are really paying for is the "Name"

Real nice.

cokewithvanilla

cfrizz wrote: »

Well aren't you jumping to conclusions and making wild assumptions. My warranty had long expired when I took the machine back for service.

Your warranty from them might be up, but many parts in computers have up to 5 year warranties from the manufacturer. and many times, a manufacturer will support an out of warranty product (meaning, free parts). If they charge you for this, they aren't very honest.

cfrizz wrote: »

Crap doesn't generally last for 8 years. Labor costs money, try hiring a plumber, electrician, etc. The parts are the cheapest part of the deal. What costs is the labor.

Crap does last that long. You won't believe how many times I've seen someone call for a repair and had Windows 98 or 95 w/ a P2 or P3... that's crazy old. and labor is cheap, hell, many highschool students willl do that for $50.. or some beer (same with the followup repairs)

cfrizz wrote: »

No doubt you know what it actually costs to build that machine from scratch right?

from scratch? say what? you mean like putting together the few parts like they have to? Sure do... I've built many machines (the same thing they do) and it takes a few hours max. That particular machine, no idea. Probably a little bit, however, they've chosen some fundamentally crappy parts that I wouldn't choose if my life depended on it. That's sketchy in itself. I never suggest that something I build is cheaper than a Dell, but it certainly has more quality. You want cheap, go HP or Dell, you want quality, get quality. Don't get cheap for the price of quality.

cfrizz wrote: »

But then no doubt you would be willing to pay outrageous money to have a "Name" brand piece of audio gear. And all you are really paying for is the "Name"

When have I done that? And "pcs for everyone" isn't some kinda prestigious name. All those little shops do is screw you. Falcon Northwest, maybe, sure, pay for that name... but not Joe's down the street computer shop.

Again, do what makes you happy. You are defending them a bit too hard. Everyone simply gave their opinions, and they are all the same, all "there's something wrong here". If you don't wish to follow any of the advice given, don't... but don't attack us for it. Again, I apologize if I sound harsh, it is just really hard for me to see anyone walk right into the proverbial shaft.

VR3

Coming from someone who works for a local business.

Business is competition, if these people want to ignore what the entire rest of the world is offering at a much lower price - don't buy from them. They are doing you no favors and in reality are just ripping you off...

If this is what your local economy is fueled by I surely dont want to live there. Just sayin.

Sherardp

I'd send it back and get something way faster and updated. Just my 2 cents Cathy. For the price you should be in a quad core rig. I just cutomized a Dell for 826 with i5, 4gb of DDR3, dual burners, ATI 5450 graphics, and more. The only problem you will have with this current rig you bought is it will be done for in less than a yr. As mentioned above go to Best Buy, hate to see you get burnt on this one.