Mazdaspeed3 and BMW 335i on Calaveras road

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  • ViperZ
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
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    In the future, while Polk is pretty lenient on the occasional swearing, you may want to avoid putting it in the SUBJECT.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2010
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    In the future, while Polk is pretty lenient on the occasional swearing....

    Not lately.
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited July 2010
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    In the future, while Polk is pretty lenient on the occasional swearing, you may want to avoid putting it in the SUBJECT.

    i did not even think about that


    Sorry!!!!!!!!!!
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    edited July 2010
    typical BMW driver.....;)
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
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    acmf74 wrote: »
    typical BMW driver.....;)

    Yes it is

    i have a BMW and a lil (RICER turbo) mazda

    most BMW guys i have met are like the one in the video.
    mole'
  • JimKellyfan
    JimKellyfan Posts: 696
    edited July 2010
    Intelligent people usually pull over and let them pass.
    The others do that in which the BMW guy did.
    In my younger days, I probably would have hurt the BMW driver in some manner.
    But, too, I wouldn't be speeding on that type of road.
    As we age, we become less bulletproof and less than ten feet tall.

    Too, my old BMW had 4 digits for a model number and was slow and smoky under deceleration, my old 76 2002.
    Handled like a dream, though.:eek:
    Four different worn tires and it stuck like it was glued, I once asked a technician at BMW why it didn't squeal around corners. He told me I would flip it first.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited July 2010
    Intelligent people usually pull over and let them pass.
    The others do that in which the BMW guy did.
    In my younger days, I probably would have hurt the BMW driver in some manner.
    But, too, I wouldn't be speeding on that type of road.
    As we age, we become less bulletproof and less than ten feet tall.

    Too, my old BMW had 4 digits for a model number and was slow and smoky under deceleration, my old 76 2002.
    Handled like a dream, though.:eek:
    Four different worn tires and it stuck like it was glued, I once asked a technician at BMW why it didn't squeal around corners. He told me I would flip it first.
    Incredible.

    the BMW in that Vid is a 335i (twinturbo) but its slow and has a decent suspension in stock form. the mazdaSPEED 3 is also turbocharged but in this case it was not stock.

    the guy in the Mazda did the right thing IMO, but i would not of been that nice at all.
    mole'
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
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    Umm, did you just say a 335i is slow? It does 0-60 in 4.9 seconds and crosses the 1/4-mile mark in 13.6 @ 105. No, that's not blazing. But it sure isn't slow, either.

    In stock form it takes the Mazdaspeed3 5.5 seconds to 60 and 14 flat through the 1/4.

    I definitely fail to see how the BMW is slow when compared to the 'Speed3.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
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    Yes, a 335i is slow. At least for the price, IMO.

    There are many cars that can do the same for less...
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited July 2010
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Umm, did you just say a 335i is slow? It does 0-60 in 4.9 seconds and crosses the 1/4-mile mark in 13.6 @ 105. No, that's not blazing. But it sure isn't slow, either.

    In stock form it takes the Mazdaspeed3 5.5 seconds to 60 and 14 flat through the 1/4.

    I definitely fail to see how the BMW is slow when compared to the 'Speed3.

    i said that mazdaSPEED3 was not stock. it was easily in the low 12 sec range. aka would kill that stock 335i from a roll or dig. i have seen many 335i do a 14.+ in stock form.
    mole'
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited July 2010
    Yes, a 335i is slow. At least for the price, IMO.

    There are many cars that can do the same for less...

    thank you


    now for a fast car that was super cheap new. look at the Dodge SRT-4 $20k brand new, 230hp, 250tq, 5.3 0-60, and 13.8@105 in stock form.

    that 335i is 45k stock
    mole'
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,726
    edited July 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    i said that mazdaSPEED3 was not stock. it was easily in the low 12 sec range. aka would kill that stock 335i from a roll or dig. i have seen many 335i do a 14.+ in stock form.

    WTF? Dude, where do you get low 12 seconds on that Speed3? I watched that video months ago and the only thing I recall being mentioned was it having a CAI. Otherwise stock engine. In stock form, the MS3 is lucky to run upper 13s. A CAI is not going to bring it down in the low 12s.

    BTW, I know, I have a Speed3. Its quick, but I wouldn't expect to overtake a 335i unless the driver sucked or was half asleep.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited July 2010
    billbillw wrote: »
    WTF? Dude, where do you get low 12 seconds on that Speed3? I watched that video months ago and the only thing I recall being mentioned was it having a CAI. Otherwise stock engine. In stock form, the MS3 is lucky to run upper 13s. A CAI is not going to bring it down in the low 12s.

    BTW, I know, I have a Speed3. Its quick, but I wouldn't expect to overtake a 335i unless the driver sucked or was half asleep.

    it was stated on another site. SRTforums.com the said SPEED3 has a SST turbo (where you upgrade the stock wheel in the turbo) ported ext mani, bigger injectors, meth and so on. ill look for the thread
    mole'
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,726
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    mole' wrote: »
    it was stated on another site. SRTforums.com the said SPEED3 has a SST turbo (where you upgrade the stock wheel in the turbo) ported ext mani, bigger injectors, meth and so on. ill look for the thread

    Well, the guy who took the video, and posted his car info on Youtube, just said it had CAI. Not sure I'd trust anything from another forum.
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  • mark090852
    mark090852 Posts: 996
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    Yes, a 335i is slow. At least for the price, IMO.

    There are many cars that can do the same for less...

    That doesn't make it slow...it's just expensive. 0-60 in 4.9 seconds and crosses the 1/4-mile mark in 13.6 @ 105 is not slow.
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  • mole'
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    edited July 2010
    billbillw wrote: »
    Well, the guy who took the video, and posted his car info on Youtube, just said it had CAI. Not sure I'd trust anything from another forum.

    its all good man.

    you on any of the mazda forums? your MS3 stock?
    mole'
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,726
    edited July 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    its all good man.

    you on any of the mazda forums? your MS3 stock?

    Yep, on a couple Mazda forums, but don't really go there much. Mine is stock except for the audio system and the two kids seats in the back ;)
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited July 2010
    billbillw wrote: »
    Yep, on a couple Mazda forums, but don't really go there much. Mine is stock except for the audio system and the two kids seats in the back ;)

    cool cool

    my MazdaSPEED is stock too (only for warranty reason) but the tires 225/40/17 racingHART rims, spark plugs and drop in K&N.

    and i have the BABYSEAT MOD TOO :D
    mole'
  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
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    Straight line performance and handling is phenomenal on that car.

    (really fun on the track)
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited July 2010
    acmf74 wrote: »
    Straight line performance and handling is phenomenal on that car.

    (really fun on the track)

    on what car?
    mole'
  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    edited July 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    on what car?


    the bimmer
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited July 2010
    acmf74 wrote: »
    the bimmer

    stock its slow man

    add a Split second power pack and it will wake the car up.

    good motor to build up on tho.

    the suspension is nice on them tho. just need some wider tires in the back.

    just my .02
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
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    mark090852 wrote: »
    That doesn't make it slow...it's just expensive. 0-60 in 4.9 seconds and crosses the 1/4-mile mark in 13.6 @ 105 is not slow.
    Agreed. I'm all for cheap speed, and getting bang for your buck. I'd love to have a '88 notchback doing low 12's in the 1/4 for just a few grand. But just because the 335i is so expensive doesn't mean it's slow. No matter if the price is $12k or $80k, 0-60 in 4.9 is not slow. Just one might represent less performance/$.
    Yes, a 335i is slow. At least for the price, IMO.

    There are many cars that can do the same for less...
    Really? You're going to take that stance, too?

    The 2009 BMW 335i has a base price of $40,600. Does 0-60 in 4.9 seconds.
    The 2010 C6 Corvette has a base price of $48,930 and does 0-60 in 4.0 seconds.

    Does that mean your mom got ripped off buying her Corvette? Heck no. It's a great car and a great choice if you can afford it. But so is the 335i. And it's not slow.

    Admittedly the Corvette is a lot faster. And $9k more expensive. And I'm a Chevy guy through and through, I'd love to have a Corvette. But speaking realistically, compared to the BMW, the Corvette still has a rental car interior with a myriad of cheap and cheaper plastics with crappy seats. The BMW has a spectacular interior, great handling (at least on par with the base C6 I'd wager), and that German engineering and build quality everyone goes on about until I'm sick of hearing it, but it's true.

    And not to mention the 335i isn't a sports car. It's a four door 'saloon' for carrying people around in comfort and style. Oh, and it's also really powerful and fast, too. That's not the 3-series' purpose. But the 335i happens to do that very well, too.
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
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    TY audiobliss!

    my sentiments exactly.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
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    mole' wrote: »
    now for a fast car that was super cheap new. look at the Dodge SRT-4 $20k brand new, 230hp, 250tq, 5.3 0-60, and 13.8@105 in stock form.
    Amen to that! Those SRT-4's were wicked. Had a friend who built his up quite a bit. Man, they were potent stock...and had incredible potential in them. Certainly would be a blast, at least in a straight line, to have one.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
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    the 335i is gutless and slow

    have you driven one before?

    and to compare it to a vette is just insane. the vette would kill it.
    mole'
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
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    audiobliss wrote: »
    Amen to that! Those SRT-4's were wicked. Had a friend who built his up quite a bit. Man, they were potent stock...and had incredible potential in them. Certainly would be a blast, at least in a straight line, to have one.

    i have 2 SRT-4s

    one is a mostly stock 2005 black and has taken out stock 335i with ease....

    2004 custom silver and the other is fully gutted, full roll cage, a 800hp motor/setup, full race suspension.

    i see your in NC. look up a shop called DCR. they have a 7 sec and an 8 sec SRT-4
    mole'