New binding posts for my SDAs

fbm211
fbm211 Posts: 1,488
edited July 2010 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
I picked these up on audiogon last week and finally got them.Now Im just waiting on some silicoln to make sure their air tight after I install em.
I hope I dont have to remove the PRs to install these since I already did the moretite mod.:eek:
SDA-2BTL with custom IC
Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
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Harman Kardon T-55c TT
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  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
    edited July 2010
    Congratulations on your new binders :) I'll be replacing mine on 2B's soon, so will be very interested to hear how your change goes. I went with these.
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

    http://www.douglasconnection.com
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    Did you get those at sonic craft? Are those cardas?
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
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  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
    edited July 2010
    fbm211 wrote: »
    Did you get those at sonic craft? Are those cardas?

    No they are Vampire Wire BPHEX/CB.
    http://www.vampirewire.com/pc-49-16-bphexcb.aspx
    The price is for all 4 binders for 2 speakers.
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

    http://www.douglasconnection.com
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    Both are excellent posts.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,649
    edited July 2010
    Now Im just waiting on some silicoln to make sure their air tight after I install em.

    Do not use silicone, it's highly acidic in the curing process. Use hot glue.
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    Got ya,I didnt know that.Ill order a gun and glue today.
    Thanks for the heads up.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited July 2010
    Don't order a glue gun,go to wallyworld or ratshack.
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,303
    edited July 2010
    Vampires are nice but my fav's are Cardas, and they cost less.
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited July 2010
    While I'm new to all these mods, isn't $125.00 extreme? I don't mind spending the coin, but couldn't one buy an above average post and put the saved funds towards a higher level cap, resistor or any other piece?

    Gordon
    2 Channel -
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,649
    edited July 2010
    Gordon, if you think Cardas posts are expensive, price some TOTL WBT's.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    Damn.I now find out I need to make the binding posts holes bigger in the terminal cups.I will borrow a drill and bits since my dremal doesnt have bits large enough.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
    edited July 2010
    fbm211 wrote: »
    Damn.I now find out I need to make the binding posts holes bigger in the terminal cups.I will borrow a drill and bits since my dremal doesnt have bits large enough.

    Hey fbm211, could you please take some photos as you do this mod, and post them on here? I'll be changing the binders on a set of SDA 2B's when I get them, and your photos of your project would certainly help me. :D Thanks
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

    http://www.douglasconnection.com
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2010
    It's a pretty easy process, unscrewing/desoldering the old ones and ****/soldering in the new ones. However as posted above, I've had to open up the mounting hold a little on all the Polk speakers I've installed new posts on.

    attachment.php?attachmentid=38024&d=1233445151
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2010
    Vampires are nice but my fav's are Cardas, and they cost less.

    I'm not sure who you're buying them from....you can usually find them both within a $1.50 of one another depending on where you get them. There's zero sonic difference so buy what's cheaper. Both are excellent upgrades to the brittle plastic, stock binders.

    www.vampirewire.com

    I've also not had to modify the holes for Vampire's(BP-HEX)....as someone mentioned that previously. They are drop in replacements.

    WBT is horribly overpriced.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,303
    edited July 2010
    I will take some pics of mine installed tonight..
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I'm not sure who you're buying them from....you can usually find them both within a $1.50 of one another depending on where you get them. There's zero sonic difference so buy what's cheaper. Both are excellent upgrades to the brittle plastic, stock binders.

    www.vampirewire.com

    I've also not had to modify the holes for Vampire's(BP-HEX)....as someone mentioned that previously. They are drop in replacements.

    WBT is horribly overpriced.

    Killer site doro.Very fair prices too.
    Nice bananas.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    The UPS driver didnt leave the sonic craft order at my door today.I cant replace the IC posts till I get that box with all the goodies in it.
    Pics of some progress later perhaps.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    Its only waiting on the cardas pure copper posts from sonic craft:D
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    Pretty easy.Now to strip and bare the wire and solder to the Pods.:eek:.ETI reccomends I put a banana plug in the one Im soldering to act as a heat sink to protect the plastic..

    One wonders if I should replace the stock wire with some neoteck 14 gauge teflon copper.I think from posts to xover a 14 gauge is fine but the wires going from xover to drivers should remain the same gauge which I think is 18?????
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    Look at those old posts.Are they made of steel or nickel.??:mad:
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,303
    edited July 2010
    These pics are in my 1.2tl upgrade thread as well, You can see I added a 1/4" thick piece of delrin to the back of the cups for extra support when I tightened them down.


    PolkUpgrades12tl007.jpg
    PolkUpgrades12tl006.jpg
    PolkUpgrades12tl004.jpg
    PolkUpgrades12tl008.jpg
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    stopped in my tracks.I need more power --watts-- .Had to order a weller therma boost gun which should do the job.

    The 25watt and even a 60 watt I had but forgot about cant get those posts hot enough to get a good solder joint.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
    edited July 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I've also not had to modify the holes for Vampire's(BP-HEX)....as someone mentioned that previously. They are drop in replacements.

    Thanks for that information. :D Good to know the Vampire BPHEX binders are a drop in replacement.
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

    http://www.douglasconnection.com
  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
    edited July 2010
    Larry, as usual a beautiful job! Thanks for posting those photos. One thing I had not yet considered doing is upgrading the interconnect. Might as well order one more set of binders to take care of that while I'm at it.
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

    http://www.douglasconnection.com
  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
    edited July 2010
    fbm211 wrote: »
    stopped in my tracks.I need more power --watts-- .Had to order a weller therma boost gun which should do the job.

    The 25watt and even a 60 watt I had but forgot about cant get those posts hot enough to get a good solder joint.

    MORE POWER!!! :D Thanks for posting the photos. So you are replacing the wires from the binding posts to the crossover?
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

    http://www.douglasconnection.com
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    Id like to---there is some serious oxidation. And what about the molex plugs? Can I get those anywhere?
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • dbaldus
    dbaldus Posts: 730
    edited July 2010
    How are you guys getting all of that glue off? Are you just cutting it out or do you melt it and then scrape it off or what?

    2-channel
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    Home Theater
    Arcam AVR 550 | GoldenEar Triton One | GoldenEar SuperCenter XXL | GoldenEar Aon 3 | JL Audio Fathom F113v2
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2010
    I use a set of dental picks from Home Depot to pry it off. It's usually so old it comes off very easily and in big pieces.

    DO NOT MELT IT....there's no need to do so.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • dbaldus
    dbaldus Posts: 730
    edited July 2010
    Hmmm... this makes me want to tweak my own, but I am using the blade/blade version of the IC socket on my SDA SRS Originals, so I think it may be slightly different.

    If I were to get the IC socket off (again, the blade/blade version), could I just replace it with a standard binding post and then solder the wires leads inside of the cabinet to the post? I'm a bit confused because there are two wires going to the socket right now (one to each blade), so I don't know what to do with the wires.

    I've always wanted to do this, but this is where I get confused and stop!

    2-channel
    Squeezebox Touch| MSB Analog DAC | Audio Research Ref 40 Anniversary Edition| Pass Labs X350.8 | Wilson Audio Sasha 2

    Home Theater
    Arcam AVR 550 | GoldenEar Triton One | GoldenEar SuperCenter XXL | GoldenEar Aon 3 | JL Audio Fathom F113v2
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited July 2010
    MOLEX PLUGS......ANYONE????
    Would old 3 wire plugs---molex---From old PC cables they use from the power supply to the HD for example.Would they work.?
    Or can I buy them.Id hate to have to direct solder from posts to xover.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre