12 guage wire for these?
Mr. Sharpe
Posts: 1,355
Just curious, but my dad has Polk RTA 12C's and Adcom Gfa 1-A and Gfp 1. the speakers are probably 4 feet from the amp and I gave him some 12 gauge wire I had sitting about 6 foot long each is this overkill or do you think "the bigger the better"?
My philosophy about hooking up speakers is use 12 gauge for all mains no matter how far away.
My philosophy about hooking up speakers is use 12 gauge for all mains no matter how far away.
Home theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
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"Philosophy" hopefully would be supported by the scientific realities of audio technology. At those very short distances 12ga could have no significant advantage over say, 18ga.
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"Philosophy" hopefully would be supported by the scientific realities of audio technology. At those very short distances 12ga could have no significant advantage over say, 18ga.
***grabs a bucket of chicken wings and a beer***
This is going to be fun.:D
You did well going with 12g wire for the runs. IMHO wires can have a significant impact on the way a speaker sounds. 18g wire is in no way something I would recommend to anyone. I don't think you need to go nuts on wires in your case, but this is one area I would not got for lamp cord either.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
John K. must be the life of the party wherever he goes."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Does your Dad like the sound his rig produces?If so,why does it matter what someone else thinks?Just a thought.If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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Run the 12ga or 14ga.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
Thanks
Ben -
Run a wire that sounds good.I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii
Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999
Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3
HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000 -
"Philosophy" hopefully would be supported by the scientific realities of audio technology. At those very short distances 12ga could have no significant advantage over say, 18ga.
actually 18 is too small, sorry.Home theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier -
John K. must be the life of the party wherever he goes.
who's that? what's that? who's he? that is the most confusing thing i've ever read LMAO. don't do that:pHome theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier -
good thought: not only does he value the opinion of others but he trusts his ear too, and he trusts me too and and he also knows that 12 gauge puts through the best audio signal and he's always used it.
gimme some chicken:DHome theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier -
I am so confused.I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii
Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999
Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3
HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000 -
concealer404 wrote: »I am so confused.
+1 to that.Truck setup
Alpine 9856
Phoenix Gold RSD65CS
For Sale
Polk SR6500
Polk SR5250
Polk SR104Any clue how to use the internet? Found it in about 10 sec. -
Notta clue to what they're up to. Probably going on the "generic biwire v. audiophile cable" bits. As a starving student, I'm perfectly happy with my cheap #16 biwire and $1 Monster RCA cables.
#12 wire will be fine. With a short run like that, you can run even #22 without running into the impedance curve. Even so, if you already have the wires, just run what you've got. #12's just fine.polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter -
Home theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier -
No problem.
My personal view on the cable issue is based on priorities. I'd rather buy new or higher-quality source gear then spend the money on cables. Using #12-#16 on a small system with <8' runs is perfectly fine with me. The next $100 I get isn't going towards cables; it's probably going towards upgrading my headphone setup.
Tip: If you need inexpensive but good-quality cables in the USA, I've found Monoprice to the top choice.
http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asppolkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter -
No problem.
My personal view on the cable issue is based on priorities. I'd rather buy new or higher-quality source gear then spend the money on cables. Using #12-#16 on a small system with <8' runs is perfectly fine with me. The next $100 I get isn't going towards cables; it's probably going towards upgrading my headphone setup.
Tip: If you need inexpensive but good-quality cables in the USA, I've found Monoprice to the top choice.
http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp
Not having decent cabling and wires will compromise the sound that higher end gear is capable of producing. I am not saying that tens of thousands need to be spent on wires/cables, but a high quialty CD player will perform only as well as the rca's that carry the output signal. I subscribe to the 10/1 ratio. For every ten dollars I spend on a component, I will spend a buck on the cable. With the gear in my stack of stuff now, I will be more focused on tweeking things a bit and cables are at the top of my list.:)The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
No problem.
My personal view on the cable issue is based on priorities. I'd rather buy new or higher-quality source gear then spend the money on cables. Using #12-#16 on a small system with <8' runs is perfectly fine with me. The next $100 I get isn't going towards cables; it's probably going towards upgrading my headphone setup.
Tip: If you need inexpensive but good-quality cables in the USA, I've found Monoprice to the top choice.
http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp
ya know, that sounds pretty good about the dollar on every $100 you spend, that's pretty much what he has, I gave him a monster 600 interconnect from amp to preamp, and another monster something for the CD, it's NAD too and it seriously made a difference!
I wanted to try Monoprice one time but decided not to for some reason, i just thought it was a little too good to be true:( I'll give it shot since I know you've tried em' and stuff:)Home theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier -
I should just stop quoting everybody on everything lol especially since I have to reply to everybody all the time:p
@nooshinjohn, I totally agree with you:) thanks.Home theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier -
nooshinjohn wrote: »With the gear in my stack of stuff now, I will be more focused on tweeking things a bit and cables are at the top of my list.:)
Tweaking the gear is what I have been doing for a while now. I have been really surprised at how much better the sound has become after adding brass footers for vibration, new speaker cables, and just recently new MIT XLR ICs.
Damn!!!!!! I just remembered. I have a $1200 MIT Magnum digital cable sitting in the car. I picked it up from UPS this morning, but got so involved at work I just came home and forgot all about it.
To the car!!!!! And upgrade my Wadia to DAC IC.
Review coming.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
HAHA! let me know BlueFox. I should really try some vibration things myself.Home theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier -
right on buddy:)Home theater:
43” Westinghouse Displayer
Marantz UD-7007 Player
Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505
Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier