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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    Download ARTA, it's better and free also. http://www.fesb.hr/~mateljan/arta/
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Face wrote: »
    Download ARTA, it's better and free also. http://www.fesb.hr/~mateljan/arta/

    Thanks for the link; I'll check it out~ :D
    TNRabbit
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    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    I'm a little apprehensive about the whole testing/analyzing thing. I might learn something (or not) that puts this outside my abilities...

    I received my binding posts & fuse holders yesterday; still waiting on the circuit breakers. I'll post pics later today--they are quite nice~
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Some FYI about Rane for anyone following this thread:

    The Rane Story

    Rane Corporation History & Philosophy

    Rane Corporation, founded and incorporated in 1981 in Washington State, is a privately held company. The owners all previously worked together in middle management positions at Phase Linear Corporation, a high-end consumer electronics company. With this background, they pooled over 40 years of combined audio experience to create Rane Corporation. Owners became separate department heads based upon their expertise. This organization created an unusually strong structure, since all department heads had a unique owner's perspective in making it succeed.

    The company name was selected from an anagram created from the common letters of the first and last names of the original founders. This particular anagram was selected because it was short, easy-to-say and remember, and they liked the double-entendre possibilities implying wet-links to the Northwest.

    The essential ingredients in Rane's successful philosophy are knowledge, integrity, pride and common sense. At Rane, people learn to treat people the way they would want to be treated, to design & build products the way they would want theirs designed & built, and that when something goes wrong, you react quickly and decisively to correct it. It is an old fashioned, common sense way to run a business, based on mutual trust and respect.

    Rane started out with four products aimed at small bands, designed to make their live performances better. At the forefront was a unique 12-input, 6-output matrix mixer (MM 12) used to create six different monitor mixes for driving stage monitor speakers. The idea was to help performers hear themselves better. Up to that time, either the small group had no monitors at all, or they were all driven by the same mix. What Rane provided was new, compactly designed, affordable tools to help solve the many problems of on-stage monitoring. Complementing the matrix mixer was the industry's first 6-channel power amplifier (MA 6), and a companion 6-channel headphone amplifier for rehearsal (HC 6). The fourth initial product was a unique combo unit, consisting of a 1/3-octave graphic equalizer and a simple realtime analyzer (RE 27), aimed at giving the performing musician a handy, easy-to-use tool for improving their sound in all venues. In doing all this, Rane established a new price-point for performance, quality and reliability. Rane products were priced well below the top high-end equipment yet outperformed and outlasted them, but were still priced significantly above the low-end products -- thus creating a new middle ground.

    A noteworthy testament to Rane's design significance and reliability reputation, is that in their first two years of production, Rane designed and shipped eight new products -- five of which are still in production today.

    Rane Corporation today is an established innovator in providing problem-solving professional audio tools, affordably priced, with unequalled reliability.
    Rane Corporate Milestones

    1981: Incorporated in Washington State, USA
    1982: 1st Constant-Q EQ & 1st EQ/RTA combo unit - the RE 27
    1983: AES paper: 4th-order state-variable Linkwitz-Riley crossovers
    1984: 1st Linkwitz-Riley crossovers: AC 22 & AC 23
    1986: AES Journal publishes Rane's landmark Constant-Q Graphic EQ paper
    1986: 1st Interpolating Constant-Q EQ
    1987: Rane's 1st digital audio product: AD 13 Audio Delay
    1988: Publish PI 14 Pseudoacoustic Infector data sheet
    1989: 1st 8th-order L-R Crossover
    1989: 1st MIDI-Programmable EQs
    1989: Develop Accelerated-SlopeTM EQ
    1990: Patent: Constant-Q Topology
    1991: Patent: Accelerated-Slope EQ
    1991: 1st THX Home Cinema EQ: THX 44
    1993: 1st Dolby Time-LinkTM pro audio delay
    1994: Home Cinema Products launched
    1995: PAQRAT® Digital Audio Recording System
    1995: 1st RW 232 software product: RPE 228 Equalizer
    1995: Launch website & Pro Audio Reference
    1996: Mojo Series introduced
    1997: Rane 1st DSP digital audio product: RPM 26
    1997: Rane 1st teleconferencing product: ECS
    1998: Patent: teleconferencing product
    1998: New standard in DJ performing mixer: TTM 54
    1999: Rane 1st Ethernet product: Via 10
    2000: Rane 1st CobraNet products: NM 84 & NM 48
    2001: Twenty-Year anniversary
    2001: First magnetic fader DJ performing mixer: TTM 56
    2002: Drag Net 100% drag and drop DSP
    2003: DEQ 60 Perfect-Q Graphic Equalizer
    2004: Patents: Magnetic Fader and Acoustic Echo Canceller
    2004: SeratoTM Scratch LIVE digital audio computer interface
    2005: SeratoTM MP 4 digital audio file mixer
    2005: Digital Amplifier: MA 4
    2006: Scratch LIVE Mixer: TTM 57SL
    2006: Twenty-five Year Anniversary

    We may be reached via telephone during normal business hours (8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time) at 425-355-6000. You may fax us any time at 425-347-7757.

    Our postal mailing address is: Rane Corporation, 10802 47th Avenue West, Mukilteo, WA, 98275, USA

    If you prefer hard copies of literature in the mail, you may email or call us at 425-551-1833.
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    I've heard that measuring planars or dipole(especially a large ribbon) isn't as simple as a regular cone or dome driver.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Face wrote: »
    I've heard that measuring planars or dipole(especially a large ribbon) isn't as simple as a regular cone or dome driver.

    Correct; the further away (to a point), the more accurate the measurement. Near field measurements don't work. There's a guy who did extensive measurements of the B&G 75" & Carver 60" ribbons....conducted outside:

    http://ldsg.snippets.org/ALSR/index.php#PM
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    Correct; the further away (to a point), the more accurate the measurement. Near field measurements don't work. There's a guy who did extensive measurements of the B&G 75" & Carver 60" ribbons....conducted outside:

    http://ldsg.snippets.org/ALSR/index.php#PM

    More:

    http://www.audioxstream.com/
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    New binding posts:

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    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Rear panel blank so far:

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    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    New fuse holder, but I'll probably be using the circuit breaker instead:

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    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • jrgoswick
    jrgoswick Posts: 159
    edited July 2010
    DUDE-let me know how those posts work out for you.
    Onkyo TX-SR705 AVR
    Onkyo M-501-Given to my father.
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    Onkyo DV-BD507 Blu Ray player
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    Polk Monitor 12's with RDO's and XO's
    Polk CS300 Center
    Polk Monitor Series 4 rears

    EBAY is like cocaine. At first you only look, next thing you know, your house is full of crap you have no idea why you own.:eek:
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    All will be documented & posted...
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Crossover plate replacement panels finished & in the mail:

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    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Got my circuit breakers:

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    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Got the stainless panels in the mail today; THANKS AGAIN, MIKE!! =D> =D> :D:D:D

    BEAUTIFUL~
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    The right one sustained a small scratch during shipping; nothing a little steel wool won't take out~

    Now to get everything together! :D :-"
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited July 2010
    Very nice.Combined with the new binding posts will definately have a high the bling factor.
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
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    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited July 2010
    Looking good.
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    Just a heads up, I have the WBT version of those posts and they're a pain to use with spades. I hope you're using nanners.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited July 2010
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    monoprice will have to do for now; maybe one day~

    Considering the low noise floor I'm hearing right now, I can't imagine what improvement I'd get with more $$$$ thrown at interconnects...

    Noise floor is the least of the reasons to upgrade. Bass and treble extension, decay. precise voice and instrument focus, and soundstage width and depth are what you may be currently compromising.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
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    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
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    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Face wrote: »
    Just a heads up, I have the WBT version of those posts and they're a pain to use with spades. I hope you're using nanners.

    Yep~:D
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Got one speaker done tonight; what a FREAKIN' ordeal! I learned a couple of things, not the least of which is to drill out the mounting holes & install the blind nuts FIRST~ the side nuts required some modification in the form of bending as they sit right at the edge of the 45 degree angle that goes from back to side/back on the AL-IIIs...

    Started off looking like this:

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    And the end result looks like this (pardon the fingerprints):

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    But FIRST, you have to start HERE--original hole:

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    Drilled new holes to match the 6/32 stainless steel tapered-head bolts (1 inch)

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    Sized & cut some thin foam seal (originally made for lining a truck tool box) to prevent air leaks/farting around the panel:

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    Began de-soldering the wiring to the crossover & speakers:

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    Went up to 12 gauge monoprice oxygen-free copper wiring from the original, wimpy (& NOT copper!) wiring:

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    Heat sinks in place (made a HUGE difference in heat transferred to the wire insulation & binding post plastic parts:

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    ^^^ I ended up soldering banana plugs to use with the woofer inside the cabinet as it was too difficult to try to solder in there. The monoprice bananas worked out GREAT & fit right into the woofer connectors (3/4 " on center).

    I had to drill out the holes in the binding posts to get the 12 gauge wire through them:

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    UGLY solder joints w/heat sinks in place:

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    A shot of the port tube:

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    It works! Couldn't crank it tonight as it was too late, but will do so tomorrow afternoon~
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    jrgoswick wrote: »
    DUDE-let me know how those posts work out for you.

    LOVE them~ & the price was right, too ($19/pair at monoprice).
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2010
    Serious A$$ solder joints on thos BP's. ;)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, well......didn't want any VIBRATION to knock 'em loose~
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    I REALLY beat them up with some Donald Fagen today (The Nightfly & Two Against Nature); no fuses or circuit breakers blown (astoundingly!) & they sound terrific~

    Now to just get the other speaker done & get proficient with the Room EQ Wizard...
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    As promised; all the pics are at this link...I got tired of linking them all~

    http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/?start=all

    I'll import a couple:

    The Rane guts:

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    Finished product:

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    New system configuration

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    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    One of the Rane's had been hot; looked like this under the caps:

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    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited July 2010
    At first, no sound. A few minutes of troubleshooting (of course, AFTER everything was put back together--GRRRR!).....

    I had a couple of cables going into the wrong slot~ fixed~

    Sounding good!

    I used the DeOxit spray. It's impossible to wipe out the switches & pots, but I sprayed them, worked the pot/switch for a few minutes, then followed up with the GOLD. I used Q-tips for the connectors, wiped them well, let it sit, then wiped them off & used the GOLD as a follow up/protectant on everything.
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    Gold is NOT for pots, it leaves a residue behind.

    FaderLube is for pots and switches.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche