Publishing Company Under Fire for Putting Warning Label on Constitution
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Publishing Company Under Fire for Putting Warning Label on Constitution
By Diane Macedo
Published June 09, 2010
FOXNews.com
A small publishing company is under fire after putting warning labels on copies of the U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence and other historical documents.
Wilder Publications warns readers of its reprints of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, Common Sense, the Articles of Confederation, and the Federalist Papers, among others, that This book is a product of its time and does not reflect the same values as it would if it were written today.
The disclaimer goes on to tell parents that they "might wish to discuss with their children how views on race, gender, sexuality, ethnicity, and interpersonal relations have changed since this book was written before allowing them to read this classic work."
Walter Olson, senior fellow at the Cato Institute, says the company may be trying to ensure that oversensitive people don't pull its works off bookstore or library shelves.
"Any idea thats 100 years old will probably offend someone or other," Olson told FoxNews.com. " But if theres anything that you ought to be able to take at a first gulp for yourself and then ask your parents if you're wondering about this or that strange thing, it should be the founding documents of American history."
The warning seems to be offending more people than the documents themselves.
Amazon.coms customer reviews of Wilders copy of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the Articles of Confederation show an overwhelming number of people speaking out against the disclaimer, describing it as insulting, sickening and frankly, horrifying.
Another review for Wilders edition of the Federalist Papers calls for an all-out boycott of the publisher, sarcastically pointing out the "dangerous ideas" its trying to protect children from: "limited government, checks and balances, constrained judicial review, dual sovereignty of states and federal government, and deliberative democracy."
And though warning labels are usually posted to protect a company from potential lawsuits, constitutional attorney Noel Francisco says this disclaimer has no legal benefits.
"Would it ever be a legal concern that selling the Constitution would expose you to some kind of liability? No. Never, Francisco told FoxNews.com. "The Constitution is the founding document of the country, an operative legal document."
As for the idea that this warning label might help keep these works from being yanked off bookshelves, Francisco says it is more likely to have the opposite effect: people not carrying the book because it has the disclaimer.
"By putting on the warning, youre making controversial something thats not controversial: our Constitution, our Declaration of Independence," he said.
Amazon customers appear to agree. Almost all of the reviews discussing the disclaimer end with the same thought: don't buy from this publisher.
Efforts to reach the publisher were unsuccessful.
By Diane Macedo
Published June 09, 2010
FOXNews.com
A small publishing company is under fire after putting warning labels on copies of the U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence and other historical documents.
Wilder Publications warns readers of its reprints of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, Common Sense, the Articles of Confederation, and the Federalist Papers, among others, that This book is a product of its time and does not reflect the same values as it would if it were written today.
The disclaimer goes on to tell parents that they "might wish to discuss with their children how views on race, gender, sexuality, ethnicity, and interpersonal relations have changed since this book was written before allowing them to read this classic work."
Walter Olson, senior fellow at the Cato Institute, says the company may be trying to ensure that oversensitive people don't pull its works off bookstore or library shelves.
"Any idea thats 100 years old will probably offend someone or other," Olson told FoxNews.com. " But if theres anything that you ought to be able to take at a first gulp for yourself and then ask your parents if you're wondering about this or that strange thing, it should be the founding documents of American history."
The warning seems to be offending more people than the documents themselves.
Amazon.coms customer reviews of Wilders copy of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the Articles of Confederation show an overwhelming number of people speaking out against the disclaimer, describing it as insulting, sickening and frankly, horrifying.
Another review for Wilders edition of the Federalist Papers calls for an all-out boycott of the publisher, sarcastically pointing out the "dangerous ideas" its trying to protect children from: "limited government, checks and balances, constrained judicial review, dual sovereignty of states and federal government, and deliberative democracy."
And though warning labels are usually posted to protect a company from potential lawsuits, constitutional attorney Noel Francisco says this disclaimer has no legal benefits.
"Would it ever be a legal concern that selling the Constitution would expose you to some kind of liability? No. Never, Francisco told FoxNews.com. "The Constitution is the founding document of the country, an operative legal document."
As for the idea that this warning label might help keep these works from being yanked off bookshelves, Francisco says it is more likely to have the opposite effect: people not carrying the book because it has the disclaimer.
"By putting on the warning, youre making controversial something thats not controversial: our Constitution, our Declaration of Independence," he said.
Amazon customers appear to agree. Almost all of the reviews discussing the disclaimer end with the same thought: don't buy from this publisher.
Efforts to reach the publisher were unsuccessful.
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I hope they go out of business.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Oh noes, the Framers is gonna come back from the grave with their rabble-rousing ideas! Someone get more caution stickers! Back to the nether with you zombie Framers!
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Stupid disclaimer... It's still supposed to be the framework around which our entire country functions so it shouldn't be labelled as "outdated"...There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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Just one more attempt to debunk our founding fathers. Should be a crime. Looks like I won't be buying any books from that publisher.HT SYSTEM-
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Should be a crime
That would be an amusing irony, since Freedom of Speech is such a big part of those documents.
It's a private company, if it bothers you, don't use them. Simple as that.If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
bobman1235 wrote: »That would be an amusing irony, since Freedom of Speech is such a big part of those documents.
It's a private company, if it bothers you, don't use them. Simple as that.
Oh,I won't,believe me.
Freedom of speech is one thing,but lately some action seems to walk a thin line of treason. All these america haters should be put on a leaky boat to china. Just for the record,even freedom of speech has it's limits.HT SYSTEM-
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Wow. What a revolting testimony of today's society.
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Freedom of speech is one thing,but lately some action seems to walk a thin line of treason. All these america haters should be put on a leaky boat to china. Just for the record,even freedom of speech has it's limits.
Not in this case it doesn't.
Ever hear the famous quote, "I do not agree with a word you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"
It's much more "treasonous" in my mind to try and tell someone they can't say something like that than it is for them to say it.If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
It's a sign of the times boys! Everyone has to worry about everyone else's feelings in this pussyfied (don't know if that is a banded word so please cut me a break mods) nation of bleeding hearts!!! It's dispicable and reprehensible the way everyone has to tread on egg shells with even our most prized documents.
BTW "Freedom of Speech" is supposed to go both ways but not in this world.
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Relax killer,I agree with you. Doesn't change how I feel about it though. Sure,I support the right to say whatever you will,you just have to accept the consequences of what spews out of your mouth.HT SYSTEM-
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But the government hitting you for treason is MUCH different than the populace driving you out of business for being stupid (Dixie Twits anyone?)There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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Oh me neither, I'd love to kick those people in the head. I just don't want them legally obligated to be kicked in the head, that's all
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Shannon W. wrote: »My Grandfathers,Uncles and father are rolling in their graves. Today I'm sad to call myself American for the reason that this is being allowed to happen.
Shannon
If that would get em going, what we've done as a country these past 18 years has already revved them up to about 60,000 RPMThere is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin -
When I think of the word "treason", the definition of the word usually means a betrayal on one's country or offering aid and comfort to ones enemy. Also actions that undermine the government. Now, I don't know about some of you guys,but I look around today and can see a gazillion things going on that can fit into that catagory.HT SYSTEM-
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Shannon W. wrote: »My Grandfathers,Uncles and father are rolling in their graves. Today I'm sad to call myself American for the reason that this is being allowed to happen.
Shannon
I will NEVER allow myself to be ashamed of being an AMERICAN, regardless of the circumstance. It's time that we wake up and do whatever it takes to reclaim that pride or it will be forever lost to those that are looking to "fundamentally transform" us while tring to figure out 'Who's **** to kick"...The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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nooshinjohn wrote: »and do whatever it takes to reclaim that pride or it will be forever lost to those that are looking to "fundamentally transform" us while tring to figure out 'Who's **** to kick"...
We need not look any further then our POS elected officials. (Sheep's to the Slaughter)
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Shannon W. wrote: »We need not look any further then our POS elected officials. (Sheep's to the Slaughter)
Shannon
They are NOT the problem...WE are! If you voted for a slimeball, accept that fact and vote the **** out next time. We all need to accept that responsibility if we are going to solve the problem.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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This story by the OP should have run together with the Empire state building not lighting up to honor Mother Teresa. They'll light up to honor communist china,Mao, but Mother Teresa...nope. Just one more example is all.HT SYSTEM-
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nooshinjohn wrote: »They are NOT the problem...WE are! If you voted for a slimeball, accept that fact and vote the **** out next time. We all need to accept that responsibility if we are going to solve the problem.
LoL, Kinda hard not to vote for one when they are all they same. (When they ain't kissing baby's their stealing their lollipops.)
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nooshinjohn wrote: »I will NEVER allow myself to be ashamed of being an AMERICAN, regardless of the circumstance. It's time that we wake up and do whatever it takes to reclaim our country or it will be forever lost to those that are looking to "fundamentally transform" us while tring to figure out 'Who's **** to kick"...
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At the risk of agreeing with the opposing party... Hell yeah John!
That is basically exactly how I feel. I just look at things from a slightly different perspective.
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At the risk of agreeing with the opposing party... Hell yeah John!
That is basically exactly how I feel. I just look at things from a slightly different perspective.
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I no longer ascribe to a party as they are all slimeballs... I am unashamedly conservative, however.:D:cool:
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While I find the comments to be reprehensible, it's their right to say it. I will disagree with my wallet though.
I really do get tired of the whole living document theory though.My equipment sig felt inadequate and deleted itself. -
I really do get tired of the whole living document theory though.
It is a 'Living Document" in that it tells the Federal Government how to live. They have made the Constitution a breathable document for the purposes of surgically dismantling it and making it fit their needs, rather than honoring it and protecting it.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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"Too late Ethol, I already saw!"nooshinjohn wrote: »...deleted...
You'll notice, however, that I didn't even comment. It's the new, nicer me! Alea jacta est! -
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Shannon W. wrote: »My Grandfathers,Uncles and father are rolling in their graves. Today I'm sad to call myself American for the reason that this is being allowed to happen.
I really dont' understand how the actions of a single company could make you ashamed to call yourself an American.
I'm ashamed that you would ever call yourself an American if that's teh case.If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
bobman1235 wrote: »I really dont' understand how the actions of a single company could make you ashamed to call yourself an American.
I'm ashamed that you would ever call yourself an American if that's teh case.
Sad that WE as a country have allowed this to happen. Kind like flag burning. I'll tell you one thing I fly that flag proudly everyday knowing that my family has giving so much for it only to read and watch the news on how these so called Americans can idly stand by while keeping their mouths shut about the stuff that is totally F'd up.
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Allowed what to happen? There are already some countries that don't allow people to speak out against their governments. None of them are what you would call free. I'd prefer to live here.If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
