digital coaxial audio vs optical audio

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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited June 2010
    K-daugh wrote: »
    I am chill I just don't like being talked down too like I'm a petty little pee on because my gear Doesn't cost more than my wifes minivan!!!! Most people have to do this on a budget ....especially me ....doesn't make me less of a man

    You and me both...Ive got a Wife and 3 kids, 2 cars and a huge Mortgage....Most of my stuff is used gear. Im just learning and having fun.
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    MonoPrice offers a fair product for the money, but their cables are mediocre at best.

    I am aware of this and I'm ok with it ....don't hate (lol)(fofl)
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  • K-daugh
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    edited June 2010
    Knucklehead wrote: »
    You and me both...Ive got a Wife and 3 kids, 2 cars and a huge Mortgage....Most of my stuff is used gear. Im just learning and having fun.

    I hear ya
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited June 2010
    Every piece of gear I own is used.................so what's your point? Sorry you took my comment, which is my opinion based on 25+ years in this hobby both professionally and now as an audiophile, so personally. Facts are facts.

    Enjoy what you have and stop letting your insecurities show.

    I'm outta this one now since it's obvious this is heading for the crapper since people have to be so flippant and extreme in their comments.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited June 2010
    Just a thought....Ive learned what topics I can discuss without looking like an idiot....the rest I just read and learn. This forum has been very rewarding to me and my system, Ive met a few polkies and Im happy to be part of it.
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    Ok ok relax....didn't mean to offend anybody .... And yes I take things to heart ....but I'm sick of people trashing other peoples gear saying my stuff is crap because it comes from monoprice....hey it sounds great to me and the fact of the matter is , that if you haven't heard, you know five thousand dollar amps and five hundred dollar cables ,then my three hundred dollar avr with ten dollar monoprice cables is gonna sound great.....and as far as my comments go ,its called busten balls
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited June 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    That's your opinion and I happen to disagree at a certain level of gear differences are discernible.

    To the OP

    Some can hear a difference between coax and toslink. I prefer coax if you can hook things up that way because with toslink there are extra conversions taking place. For your application, and your level of gear go with whatever is the most inexpensive to get your end result because you won;t be able to hear a difference.

    H9
    this is not an opinion, it is logic, you obviously have no idea how digital works, if the entire signal does not reach the DAC in it's entirety, the signal will make loud extremely annoying poping and clicking and drop out. please stop misleading people into buying bogus expensive BS cables that make no difference whatsoever.
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited June 2010
    K-daugh wrote: »
    Ok ok relax....didn't mean to offend anybody .... And yes I take things to heart ....but I'm sick of people trashing other peoples gear saying my stuff is crap because it comes from monoprice....hey it sounds great to me and the fact of the matter is , that if you haven't heard, you know five thousand dollar amps and five hundred dollar cables ,then my three hundred dollar avr with ten dollar monoprice cables is gonna sound great.....and as far as my comments go ,its called busten balls

    that because amps and cables don't even have a sound of their own, minus tube amps. the reason tubes are different is because they produce even harmonic distortion which sounds pleasant to our ears, solid states produce odd HD, which sound harsh to our ears. if some audiophool wants to spend idiotic and irresponsible amounts of money on bogus wizardry, they need to stop convincing new-comers to do the same. in analog cables, the absolute only thing that matters is 1. will it block extra RF interference? and 2. will it be large enough to carry the correct amount of current to prevent insertion loss and low end problems.
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  • Knucklehead
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    edited June 2010
    I was afraid of this......Im done.
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  • yepimonfire
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    edited June 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    Did I miss something? Where is he misleading anyone into buying a more expensive cable?
    i did not mean to quote him or quote anybody and i am past my editing limit, i am speaking in general. every cable debate on here ends up turning into the same thing, i'm speaking for past and present threads
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited June 2010
    oh wait i did quote the right post, i said there is no difference in sound quality in digital cables, he said that's your opinion. i was explaining it is not an opinion.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited June 2010
    [QUOTE=yepimonfire;1356897]that because amps and cables don't even have a sound of their own, minus tube amps. the reason tubes are different is because they produce even harmonic distortion which sounds pleasant to our ears, solid states produce odd HD, which sound harsh to our ears. if some audiophool wants to spend idiotic and irresponsible amounts of money on bogus wizardry, they need to stop convincing new-comers to do the same. in analog cables, the absolute only thing that matters is 1. will it block extra RF interference? and 2. will it be large enough to carry the correct amount of current to prevent insertion loss and low end problems.[/QUOTE]

    stop trying to pick a fight. Its our opinion we weren't talking about amps, its about the digital vs coaxial.
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    [QUOTE if some audiophool wants to spend idiotic and irresponsible amounts of money on bogus wizardry, they need to stop convincing new-comers to do the same. in analog cables, the absolute only thing that matters is 1. will it block extra RF interference? and 2. will it be large enough to carry the correct amount of current to prevent insertion loss and low end problems.[/QUOTE]

    Thank you this has been what im trying to explain for the past three days .....this sums everything up in a nutshell ......all the gimmicks out there ;oh this wire wll gve you super sound and this wire will do this and this hdmi will give super quality its all placebo.....if the raw mateials are there and are pure ....and if the rf interference is sheilded correctly .....that is all you need the rest of the bull is "wizardry" and or placebo.....good quality wires do not need to cost a lot
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    i dunno im lost right now ...we have all been arguing so much...i forget why...ecosphere answered my question a whie back on how to hook up my avr with my dvd player and my cable box....thanks ecosphere....as far as cables and wires go....this arguement will go on forever
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  • K-daugh
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    edited June 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Ditto. The know-it-all roaches (who have zero experinece) are coming out again. Time to spray this thread with Raid.

    tough crowd ....
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  • yepimonfire
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    edited June 2010
    i'm morbidly obese
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    yepimonfire wrote: »
    i'm morbidly obese

    lol :D
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited June 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Ditto. The know-it-all roaches (who have zero experinece) are coming out again. Time to spray this thread with Raid.

    i have been messing with audio for 9 years. you have been practicing audolotry witchcraft this whole time apparently.
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  • K-daugh
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    edited June 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Ditto. The know-it-all roaches (who have zero experinece) are coming out again. Time to spray this thread with Raid.

    what exactly does "zero experinece" mean ?
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited June 2010
    it means we hurt their ego.
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    for all the monoprice haters out there here is some relevant reading from the forum rulebook;;;;
    7) Do not brand bash. We're all in this together. Discuss what you like and dislike. But don't bash someone or something because you don't like it.

    8) Be respectful of new members. If it was only you and me on this forum, we'd have no fun and the whole industry would collapse. The truth is that the world needs people like us to show them the way to great audio. Welcome the newbies. For they will encourage the next generation of audiophiles. You don’t want to be the last audiophile, do you?
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    love you too
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited June 2010
    what the hell
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited June 2010
    Don't feed the trolls!!!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Don't feed the trolls!!!

    huh????you have a sick sense of humor!!!!!!lol
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    if i can cant do dont can i ...wish what the hell???!!!
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited June 2010
    i've gained 50 pounds in 5 minutes!
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited June 2010
    yepimonfire wrote: »
    i've gained 50 pounds in 5 minutes!
    Since when was pablum so fattening?
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    ok boys in girls optical cables are nice...gonna sound good going from my avr to my hd comcast box(my avr is a dinosaur,no hdmi)
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2010
    Are we cool now or are we going to continue the back and forth?

    Let's remember the new rules:

    If you're got 50 years experience--that's great! Try to keep that from setting you off when a newbie makes a post? If you're a newb...remain 'cool', the 50 years boys' bark is worse than their bite.

    If you have a low post count but actually have 50 years yourself--I thought that's why we eliminated the TITLES on this site...so that the post count wouldn't matter that much....HELLLLOOOO!

    To throw one's experience at someone is just as 'insecure' as having someone with LESS experience call you on it! Neither one is PRODUCTIVE.

    If any MODERATOR would like to step in here. Please do!

    Peace!

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