Polk Audio RT3000P and CS1000P

rtart

I did read the prior posts.

A threat is "I'm coming to get you." The OP's commments COULD be taken as advice, and not a threat. I don't know his intent....but neither do you. I'd give anyone the benefit of the doubt until and unless it becomes clear a threat was intended.

BTW, the OP has not used the language or attitude I've seen used by the others who have contributed to this thread. The OP's comments MIGHT have been misinterpreted. Other members' comments are not ambiguous, and clearly not in keeping with the tone of this forum. Name calling and the like doesn't help anyone.

If in doubt, be nice.

nooshinjohn

I give up:eek:...

codyc1ark

rtart wrote: »

I understand the rules on selling gear, but not everyone reads all of the rules in the forum they just joined.

Yeah, I wouldn't read the rules if I was just signing up to try and sell something on another members thread.

Nor would I be welcoming if they didn't read the rules and follow them.

shawn474

rtart wrote: »

I did read the prior posts.

A threat is "I'm coming to get you." The OP's commments COULD be taken as advice, and not a threat. I don't know his intent....but neither do you. I'd give anyone the benefit of the doubt until and unless it becomes clear a threat was intended.

BTW, the OP has not used the language or attitude I've seen used by the others who have contributed to this thread. The OP's comments MIGHT have been misinterpreted. Other members' comments are not ambiguous, and clearly not in keeping with the tone of this forum. Name calling and the like doesn't help anyone.

If in doubt, be nice.

I agree with you IN THEORY about being nice, but are you freaking serious, man? How can that be misinterpretted? Maybe he was giving advice, but why then not post it on the thread as a whole instead of sending a private message. You're either very naive or very good about giving someone the benefit of the doubt who has no reputation on this board.

falconcry72

rtart wrote: »

...The OP's commments COULD be taken as advice, and not a threat. I don't know his intent....but neither do you. I'd give anyone the benefit of the doubt until and unless it becomes clear a threat was intended.

Here's one reason why I disagree with you and why I think you're being naive:

He opens his "advice" PM by addressing HTguru as "son". This is an obviously condescending and inflammatory name to call someone with whom you are not for familiar. His following statements, within the negative context set forth by the previously noted preface, leave no ambiguity about his intent: he was trying to intimidate one of our members, and that is not tolerated here.

Good riddance.

cstmar01

rtart wrote: »

I did read the prior posts.

A threat is "I'm coming to get you." The OP's commments COULD be taken as advice, and not a threat. I don't know his intent....but neither do you. I'd give anyone the benefit of the doubt until and unless it becomes clear a threat was intended.

BTW, the OP has not used the language or attitude I've seen used by the others who have contributed to this thread. The OP's comments MIGHT have been misinterpreted. Other members' comments are not ambiguous, and clearly not in keeping with the tone of this forum. Name calling and the like doesn't help anyone.

If in doubt, be nice.

really? why don't you go meet him person to person then if you think its so hunky dory.

Sorry but regardless of what you think, a PM like that really is uncalled for, and in the first place why would a normal person say something like that. I live about 2 hours from Milwaukee and yet would have no desire after reading what was said to a member to do business with someone like that.

IMO you need to pull your head out of your butt. :biggrin: was that nice enough?

nooshinjohn

This thread needs to be closed, and jsimpson needs to be banned, then hunted down by the Polk Army. Of course, no thread is implied.

bsoko2

rtart wrote: »

I did read the prior posts.

A threat is "I'm coming to get you." The OP's commments COULD be taken as advice, and not a threat. I don't know his intent....but neither do you. I'd give anyone the benefit of the doubt until and unless it becomes clear a threat was intended.

BTW, the OP has not used the language or attitude I've seen used by the others who have contributed to this thread. The OP's comments MIGHT have been misinterpreted. Other members' comments are not ambiguous, and clearly not in keeping with the tone of this forum. Name calling and the like doesn't help anyone.

If in doubt, be nice.

And if he had sent YOU that message threatening your family, you would still react the same way????

nooshinjohn

Jason Voorhees and Freddy Kuegger were mis-understood.

BlueFox

Didn't there use to be a restriction where one needed to have 'x' posts before they could use the PM feature?

HTguru1982

Correct me if I'm wrong but if you're new with less than 100 posts trying to sell something in the flea market, aren't you greeted with an alert message saying you don't have permission or whatever to start a thread in that particular section of the forum? And on the old forum, I believe there was a sticky with the title "100 posts required to sell". Of course I could be wrong on both counts. But I believe people know they're breaking the rules simply because they don't start their own threads - they hijack others.

I sent jsampson a pm myself, and admittedly it wasn't very friendly. I told him about the rules and that if can't follow them, then he needs to take his stuff elsewhere. Mistake on my part, I Know. I sent both messages to a mod. So I believe he had a right to be pissed but you don't follow that with "talking to people you dont know like that could be dangerous to you families health".

rtart

Well guys, many of you continue to make my point for me again and again. I'm not saying there was or was not malicious intent on the part of the 'offending member.' If you are able to read minds you should be working on Wall Street, not posting here.

All I have said is that there was room for misunderstanding and that we should all give the benefit of the doubt until malice is obvious.

For my suggestion, I have been called naive (twice), told to 'pull your head out of your butt', and generally told I'm an idiot because I don't assume from a single email that this guy is 'a douchebag', 'a ****', or that 'he has serious mental problems', or that 'F*ck that guy. We don't want him here' is an approriate.

Let's all remember that his original post was met with a not-particularly-polite response of 'No one's interested. Put it on Craigslist or eBay'. His response was not particularly polite, either. However, responding impolitely to an impolite post is understandable. I wouldn't have done it, but I don't call people 'douchebags', either.

By the way, many of those who have posted responses in this thread are guilty of violating the forum rules. I've copied them below.

Check out the "Very Important" section, along with item number 5. Especially pertinent is item number 8 about being respectful of new members.

I'm dissappointed that those who claim to be so concerned about the rules are breaking them so flagrantly.



Welcome to Club Polk - Forum Rules



You are here because of your interest in audio and Polk speakers. We would like to welcome you to our online community. These forums are dedicated to you.

Here are some rules to insure that our forums remain interesting, educational, and fun:


Forum Rules



VERY IMPORTANT...

If you have a problem with another member's comments in a posted thread, DO NOT respond with any further comments that will aggravate the situation. Members have two options of recourse....

1.Email the moderators, directing them to the individual and thread that the problem occurs in.
2.Resolve the problem between both of you via PERSONAL email.
Reacting to a hostile post with more hostility puts YOU in jeopardy, and risks your account from being deleted. To be objective and fair about situations where forum members are attacking each other, BOTH members' accounts will be removed from our forum (and no, we don't care who started it).


Polk's Warning System...
The warning system is in place to ensure that the peace is kept. The offenses are as follows:

1st Offense: A private warning sent via PM
2st Offense: A public warning issued and the closing of the thread
3nd Offense: A 7 Day suspension from posting privileges
4th Offense: A 30 Day suspension from posting privileges
5th Offense: A LIFETIME BAN

The warnings have a one year shelf life. They will expire 1 year from the date of the initial warning.

*Polk Moderators can decide to skip the minor warnings and go directly to the lifetime ban based on severity of the offense.


1) Stick to the topic of the forum. This way information is easily categorized to make it easy for new members to access. Threads or posts that do not contain relevant information will be removed.

2) Trolling - members who make a conscious effort to inflame or irritate others will be subject to warnings and/or bans.

3) The discussion of politics and religion is irrelevant to good audio and is, therefore, not allowed on this forum.

4) Pornography and violent images are not allowed on this forum. This includes posts about weapons or explosives. Duh.

5) No baiting or fighting. Personal attacks, trouble making, inappropriate language, or any threatening or offensive behavior will not be tolerated.

6) No spam. Any member soliciting spam will be warned and/or banned

7) Do not brand bash. We're all in this together. Discuss what you like and dislike. But don't bash someone or something because you don't like it.

8) Be respectful of new members. If it was only you and me on this forum, we'd have no fun and the whole industry would collapse. The truth is that the world needs people like us to show them the way to great audio. Welcome the newbies. For they will encourage the next generation of audiophiles. You don’t want to be the last audiophile, do you?

9) Forum rules & guidelines are not up for debate. This is not a democracy, but rather a private forum owned by Polk Audio. Anyone openly debating the rules we have set in place will be removed.

nooshinjohn

My Bozo list is getting so big these days that I am thinking of giving them their own zip code.

michael1947

In response to the discussion about the threats from the guy in Wisconsin: The poster rtart has a valid point and rather than have the cops haul him off to cyber jail maybe a little kindness would be in order. I would have been insulted by the harsh reply" no one's interested, post them on craigslist or ebay." I don't believe anyone is "in order" when he/she attempts to speak for the entire forum. I kind of like the RT3000p's and have a couple of pairs of RT2000p's which are not for sale....as I too am a new forum member who has read the rules. Keep this forum fun.

EndersShadow

Well lets put it this way. Since the new poster couldnt create his own thread in the FS market due to lack of posts, he bumps another sale thread from A YEAR AGO to try and sell something.

When I first joined the forum I tried to post about a set of R50's I had for sale not knowing the rules, but once I saw you needed 100 posts, I didnt go back to post in another OLD sale thread just to bypass that rules.

Just because you assume good intent from everyone you met, doesnt mean thats what your going to get. We protect our own here at Club Polk which is why I like coming here. A new person with no reputation trying to sell something is one thing I am wary of as they have no track record. Its different if they happen to know other forum members that can vouch for them, but thats not the case here.

calgoose

LOL this thread would make a great Jersey Shore episode!

pitdogg2

nooshinjohn wrote: »

Jason Voorhees and Freddy Kuegger were mis-understood.

As well as Ted Bundy and from those who put him down they too said he was a very nice guy all things considered.

mole'

EndersShadow wrote: »

Well lets put it this way. Since the new poster couldnt create his own thread in the FS market due to lack of posts, he bumps another sale thread from A YEAR AGO to try and sell something.

When I first joined the forum I tried to post about a set of R50's I had for sale not knowing the rules, but once I saw you needed 100 posts, I didnt go back to post in another OLD sale thread just to bypass that rules.

Just because you assume good intent from everyone you met, doesnt mean thats what your going to get. We protect our own here at Club Polk which is why I like coming here. A new person with no reputation trying to sell something is one thing I am wary of as they have no track record. Its different if they happen to know other forum members that can vouch for them, but thats not the case here.

agree with you 150%

shawn474

rtart wrote: »

Well guys, many of you continue to make my point for me again and again. I'm not saying there was or was not malicious intent on the part of the 'offending member.' If you are able to read minds you should be working on Wall Street, not posting here.

All I have said is that there was room for misunderstanding and that we should all give the benefit of the doubt until malice is obvious.

For my suggestion, I have been called naive (twice), told to 'pull your head out of your butt', and generally told I'm an idiot because I don't assume from a single email that this guy is 'a douchebag', 'a ****', or that 'he has serious mental problems', or that 'F*ck that guy. We don't want him here' is an approriate.

Let's all remember that his original post was met with a not-particularly-polite response of 'No one's interested. Put it on Craigslist or eBay'. His response was not particularly polite, either. However, responding impolitely to an impolite post is understandable. I wouldn't have done it, but I don't call people 'douchebags', either.

By the way, many of those who have posted responses in this thread are guilty of violating the forum rules. I've copied them below.

Check out the "Very Important" section, along with item number 5. Especially pertinent is item number 8 about being respectful of new members.

I'm dissappointed that those who claim to be so concerned about the rules are breaking them so flagrantly.



Welcome to Club Polk - Forum Rules



You are here because of your interest in audio and Polk speakers. We would like to welcome you to our online community. These forums are dedicated to you.

Here are some rules to insure that our forums remain interesting, educational, and fun:


Forum Rules



VERY IMPORTANT...

If you have a problem with another member's comments in a posted thread, DO NOT respond with any further comments that will aggravate the situation. Members have two options of recourse....

1.Email the moderators, directing them to the individual and thread that the problem occurs in.
2.Resolve the problem between both of you via PERSONAL email.
Reacting to a hostile post with more hostility puts YOU in jeopardy, and risks your account from being deleted. To be objective and fair about situations where forum members are attacking each other, BOTH members' accounts will be removed from our forum (and no, we don't care who started it).


Polk's Warning System...
The warning system is in place to ensure that the peace is kept. The offenses are as follows:

1st Offense: A private warning sent via PM
2st Offense: A public warning issued and the closing of the thread
3nd Offense: A 7 Day suspension from posting privileges
4th Offense: A 30 Day suspension from posting privileges
5th Offense: A LIFETIME BAN

The warnings have a one year shelf life. They will expire 1 year from the date of the initial warning.

*Polk Moderators can decide to skip the minor warnings and go directly to the lifetime ban based on severity of the offense.


1) Stick to the topic of the forum. This way information is easily categorized to make it easy for new members to access. Threads or posts that do not contain relevant information will be removed.

2) Trolling - members who make a conscious effort to inflame or irritate others will be subject to warnings and/or bans.

3) The discussion of politics and religion is irrelevant to good audio and is, therefore, not allowed on this forum.

4) Pornography and violent images are not allowed on this forum. This includes posts about weapons or explosives. Duh.

5) No baiting or fighting. Personal attacks, trouble making, inappropriate language, or any threatening or offensive behavior will not be tolerated.

6) No spam. Any member soliciting spam will be warned and/or banned

7) Do not brand bash. We're all in this together. Discuss what you like and dislike. But don't bash someone or something because you don't like it.

8) Be respectful of new members. If it was only you and me on this forum, we'd have no fun and the whole industry would collapse. The truth is that the world needs people like us to show them the way to great audio. Welcome the newbies. For they will encourage the next generation of audiophiles. You don?€™t want to be the last audiophile, do you?

9) Forum rules & guidelines are not up for debate. This is not a democracy, but rather a private forum owned by Polk Audio. Anyone openly debating the rules we have set in place will be removed.

I am one of the guys that called you naive. It certainly wasn't to insult you; it was pointing out that a threatening private message sent to an individual is not meant to educate the forum as you claim. Additionally, the fact that you have to argue that point repeatedly makes me think you like to argue just for the sake of arguing instead of actually admitting that you are wrong and moving on. It was a threat, plain and simple. And while I wouldn't be alarmed by it in the least, it is banworthy and is something that should not be tolerated on this or any other foum. Manning up and admitting you are wrong is much better than posting the rules of the forum to support your ridiculous argument.

rtart

Oh. That's clever.

rtart wrote: »

Well guys, many of you continue to make my point for me again and again.

falconcry72

Keiko wrote: »

Maybe he's a retart.

:razz:

LeftCoast

rtart wrote: »

I did read the prior posts.

A threat is "I'm coming to get you." The OP's commments COULD be taken as advice, and not a threat. I don't know his intent....but neither do you. I'd give anyone the benefit of the doubt until and unless it becomes clear a threat was intended.

BTW, the OP has not used the language or attitude I've seen used by the others who have contributed to this thread. The OP's comments MIGHT have been misinterpreted. Other members' comments are not ambiguous, and clearly not in keeping with the tone of this forum. Name calling and the like doesn't help anyone.

If in doubt, be nice.

As John knows, I work in law enforcement in one of the biggest agencies in the country. The message was a threat and, yes, a report can be filed as a Threatening Message (misdemeanor) or Criminal Threats (felony).

The determining factor would be intent, and his statement can certainly, be understood as an intent to threaten.

HTguru1982

Thanks for the info, leftcoast. I told jsampon that I sent his message to the mods and if he sends me one more message that I would file a police report. Thanks to one of our members, I have all the info I need on the guy. I haven't heard back from him so hopefully he's long gone.

Like I told rtart in a pm, I'll keep a better watch on what I type to people from now on and let the mods deal with potential trouble makers. Thanks to all for the support.

dpowell

Too bad I sold these over a year ago. This thread is getting so much attention I may just add some new gear for sale in it to take advantage of the publicity. :biggrin:

gmcman

HTguru1982 wrote: »

Received this message from jsampson after telling him to read the rules:

We've seen the quote and I want to agree with the fact it could be considered as somewhat of a blanket statement by just watch what you say or type, it's a human on the other end not a harddrive...for the most part anyway.

However, by reading the remark of "No one's interested" I can say that it was a rude statement considering someone is speaking for everyone else..and assuming but was likely annoyed by the post count of "2" trying to sell something.

With that being said....I would surely have reported the statement to the local authorities because you don't know who is on the other end..and I want to cover my bases.

mrbigbluelight

You know, if dpowel had just GIVEN me the RT3000P and CS1000P, none of this would have come about. :cool:

Now, I'm worried about his family's health. :eek:


....... see, that's not rude. That's a threat. For illustration purposes only.

Better throw into a couple of extra emoticons :biggrin: :cheesygrin: :razz:

LeftCoast

dpowell wrote: »

Too bad I sold these over a year ago. This thread is getting so much attention I may just add some new gear for sale in it to take advantage of the publicity. :biggrin:

Yes. Let us not forget who started all of this: It was dpowell.

darkchild2864

Just wondering if you still had the Polk CS1000P for sale and if so how much do you want for it shipped to Manahawkin,NJ 08050? Please let me know as soon as you get a chance.

Thanks, Victor

dpowell

, Nope, all sold earlier this year.

Moderators, please mark this thread as SOLD!