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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,809
    edited May 2010
    EXPERIENCE in the field

    And what "field" would that be? The one behind your house?



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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited May 2010
    I know form experience that dell is junk EXPERIENCE in the field and from people telling me about them and the problems.
    I see. Well coming from somone who cant seem to navigate the web well enough all on their own and needs "help" to find a green laptop your experience with computers must be extensive :rolleyes:



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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited November 2011
    gee, such a smooth spammer. I'm sure your momma is proud
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2011
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    gee, such a smooth spammer. I'm sure your momma is proud

    Hahaha, funny. Hey Spammer way to bring back a thread from the dead.

    Anyone have any new laptops they wish to discuss. Still have the HP from work and the Dell XPS going strong on my end.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited November 2011
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    My guess is, take most of the major consumer brands apart and they're essentially the same on the inside. I'm not even sure what makes a Dell a Dell, or an HP an HP, other than the logo on the front.
    I am not so sure about this.

    We use a multitude of laptops on a daily basis (rental & service business). They travel from our offices to venues all the time and while they are well packed they sure work very hard yet in my personal experience;

    - DELL don't last and causes headaches, but better than some other brands as at least they lasted close to 1 year life span. BTW; in the case of the DELLs, they were higher end DELLs. NOT consumer grade.

    - HP are IMO flimsily and not made to last however, out of the multiple laptops bought on a single, 1 or 2 managed to last longer than 1 year.

    - ACER & GATEWAY were the worse purchase the company has ever done. They would freeze quite often, very embarrassing when you are away from the shop and nothing you can do unless you cross rent at high price from a competitor.

    - Toshiba were in my opinion the best quality the company bought however, they wanted to cheap out on the purchase so rarely see them around. I believe the old Toshiba we had around (way over 1 year of life) were sent to remote locations as they were still good for light duty. My Toshiba laptop has travelled so many times and is used daily as my main personal computer (was bought in 2004 and is still kicking without any issue whatsoever).

    Our sister company also had a Toshiba laptop that was used for business daily in lieu of a PC and was on the road also as the user would take home work and would use it when meeting clients. It is probably 5 - 6 years old now and I believe the user took it with him when leaving the company and still uses it.

    - Sony, our company never used them but our sister company has been using them on the road for over 2 years now and I believe without any issues whatsoever.

    IMHO, you better focus on the quality ratter than the color and if need be, just "skin it" to your liking as per Demiurge's link suggest.

    The above is simply what we experienced over the years, so pick the brand you most trust, do not take for granted my above comments as it seems some had better experience.
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited November 2011
    I hate to tell you this, but if you're having that many problems with multiple brands of laptops, then the laptops aren't the problem. It sounds like your company need something along the lines of a Panasonic Toughbook, as those are designed to stand up to excessive shock and abuse.

    My experience in IT (primarily health care), is that consumer models in general all have pretty much the same level of reliability; Toshiba might be slightly better, but only by a very small margin. How the user treats them is also an important factor to consider, which seems to be missed by many when determining reliability. The customer support for consumer models is also about the same - awful. Except Sony, they've managed to perfect and hone their skills to create a whole new level of awful.

    As for business model laptops, I prefer and have used the Dell Latitudes and Precision Workstations. They have been very reliable in both work environments and in my personal use (home and travel). Plus the customer support is very good, and includes next-business-day repairs/parts if you do have an issue.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2011
    Dell? Hell no. We've owned two Sony Vaio's and liked them alot. That's what the family chipped in to buy our niece for her college bound education.

    I'm no laptop expert but since I've used a handful in the field, the most durable was the IBM, the worst was the Dell and my favorite was Toshiba. We currently run the new HP series and it's been pretty nice so far and I'm far from an HP fan.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited November 2011
    I hate to tell you this, but if you're having that many problems with multiple brands of laptops, then the laptops aren't the problem. It sounds like your company need something along the lines of a Panasonic Toughbook, as those are designed to stand up to excessive shock and abuse.
    I understand your point and up to a degree will agree to disagree. The point is in our competitive market (AV rental and services) commercial type laptops is not a sound investment for the below reasons;

    1. Paying consumer grade pricing allow us to replace the laptops more often which in turns keeps us up to date with newer technologies avaialble.

    2. Again paying consumer pricing allows us to be a lot more competitive in our pricing (you do not need the best of the best laptops for presentations and playing with the software of our conference microphones (that is where the top dollar goes) as the laptop is used at the beginning of a conference and put aside for the remainder of the event (1 to 5 days).

    However, my point is while I fully realize the poor laptops are used in touch conditions they allow us "to speed" the lifespan of each brands and therefore give us a good idea of what is bad, decent and better.

    As I pointed out, my personal laptop is also a toshiba. Well cared for but used in tougher conditions than what most people would use them. I do not have a home PC, my laptop takes care of that duty along with my travel needs. Laptops are NOT ALL equal IMHO and experience.

    To go back the OP, my suggestion was that he buys what he trust and prefer the most and use DIY coloring package instead (better bang for the buck IMHO. Not counting that the OP can taylor the coloring to his beloved wife personality! ;)). There is a price tag to the fancy looking enclosure and my personal choice would be to spend the $$$ on quality electronics ratter than fancy enclosure.
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited November 2011
    Best ones that are still going 4 and 5 years later are sony "3 in house" lenovo 15 in the field where I work" and acer and asus "great bang for the buck with acer and asus lots of power"

    Dell I stand by saying they are junk.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited November 2011
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Dell? Hell no. We've owned two Sony Vaio's and liked them alot. That's what the family chipped in to buy our niece for her college bound education.

    I'm no laptop expert but since I've used a handful in the field, the most durable was the IBM, the worst was the Dell and my favorite was Toshiba. We currently run the new HP series and it's been pretty nice so far and I'm far from an HP fan.
    My first laptop, purchased about 5 years ago, was a Sony vaio - hated it so much that I lost interest in laptops in general. However, over the past two years, I've bought 4 inexpensive laptops for my daughters and my mother. Two Dells, a Lenovo, and a Toshiba. They are all comparable, and they all run just fine. Not a problem with any of them, yet. I'll report back if I experience a problem with any of them. My son has a MacBook... No problems with that either.
  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited November 2011
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    I understand your point and up to a degree will agree to disagree. The point is in our competitive market (AV rental and services) commercial type laptops is not a sound investment for the below reasons;

    1. Paying consumer grade pricing allow us to replace the laptops more often which in turns keeps us up to date with newer technologies avaialble.
    Okay, this kind of makes sense. Based on your prior post I got the impression that you were surprised and/or disappointed that the consumer laptops didn't last. However, if this was your intention from the beginning, I can understand why you went that route. It may have been a matter of me reading too far into your post; sorry.
    2. Again paying consumer pricing allows us to be a lot more competitive in our pricing (you do not need the best of the best laptops for presentations and playing with the software of our conference microphones (that is where the top dollar goes) as the laptop is used at the beginning of a conference and put aside for the remainder of the event (1 to 5 days).
    This is also true. I find it kind of odd and amusing when someone buys a top-of-the-line gaming laptop, then just uses it for basic internet surfing and presentations.
    However, my point is while I fully realize the poor laptops are used in touch conditions they allow us "to speed" the lifespan of each brands and therefore give us a good idea of what is bad, decent and better.
    Gotcha.
    As I pointed out, my personal laptop is also a toshiba. Well cared for but used in tougher conditions than what most people would use them. I do not have a home PC, my laptop takes care of that duty along with my travel needs. Laptops are NOT ALL equal IMHO and experience.
    I am pretty much the same way. I have a Dell M6300 and docking station that I use as my primary computer for home and away. I do, however, have a self-built server that I use for media, file sharing and backups. I also have an SGI Octane and Sun Ultra 60 that I fool around with every so often. Plus, the Octane makes for a darn good space heater in the winter!

    As for different people having different experiences with different brands of laptops, that doesn't surprise me. Small groups really don't make for good statistics. I've had good luck with Dell, but that is just my experience, and it means very little in the grand scheme of things. At any rate, I don't really plan on going with a different brand; plus, their outlet pricing is great. There are also a limited amount of options out there for laptops with true docking stations, which is a must for me.

    I've had a Dell Latitude D810, which operated flawlessly for a bit over 3 years until I sold it to a friend. It also operated flawlessly for him...until he cracked the screen, but that's not Dell's fault. I have a Dell Precision M6300 now, which has been in operation for 3.25 years. It did have one issue about 8 months ago with small black spots appearing inside of the screen; not dead pixels, but actual contaminants. I'm assuming the screen wasn't sealed properly from the factory. At any rate, Dell was out there the very next morning to install a new screen, so I really can't complain.

    As for my field experience, they were mostly Dell's and HP's, both desktops/towers and laptops. The Dell's were more reliable in my experience, but it wasn't a large difference. In fact, the major problem that we ran into were earlier model Western Digital drives that plagued all brand computers. This was back in the 1-20GB size hard drive days. WD is much more reliable now.
    To go back the OP, my suggestion was that he buys what he trust and prefer the most and use DIY coloring package instead (better bang for the buck IMHO. Not counting that the OP can taylor the coloring to his beloved wife personality! ;)). There is a price tag to the fancy looking enclosure and my personal choice would be to spend the $$$ on quality electronics ratter than fancy enclosure.
    I fully agree with this.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,222
    edited November 2011
    No problems with my Dell..
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,809
    edited November 2011
    Started by bigaudiofanatic‎, 05-12-2010 05:49 PM

    That's when this thread was started.

    Over a year and a half old and we're gonna argue about it and offer advice on it anyway.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,222
    edited November 2011
    Jstas wrote: »
    Started by bigaudiofanatic‎, 05-12-2010 05:49 PM

    That's when this thread was started.

    Over a year and a half old and we're gonna argue about it and offer advice on it anyway.

    You can post this in the pet peeve thread..:eek:
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited November 2011
    Jstas wrote: »
    Started by bigaudiofanatic‎, 05-12-2010 05:49 PM

    That's when this thread was started.

    Over a year and a half old and we're gonna argue about it and offer advice on it anyway.
    I actually did not even noticed the thread was that old. :redface: No biggy anyway, no arguing, just opinion sharing and even a year later laptops are still actuality. Anyway, all that because of a spammer...
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  • dfretwell
    dfretwell Posts: 103
    edited November 2011
    Sounds cool! Mine is just silver