Please don't laugh at me.

Imspun4u
Imspun4u Posts: 48
edited June 2010 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
I have bought the Polk Audio ProDsm Micro2000 subwoofer and want to know if theres a hd sub cable that will bring out the best in it, musically and HT wise?
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited May 2010
    I wouldn't get too caught up in a sub cable, any decent cable should do the trick. In fact, if you see any product that labels itself as a 'High Definition' or 'HD' subwoofer cable I'd probably avoid it.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,055
    edited May 2010
    There is no reason to laugh!

    You can purchase any sub cable that would fit your budget. Signal cable, Blue Jeans, Audioquest, just to name a few.
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  • specd_out
    specd_out Posts: 505
    edited May 2010
    Monoprice.com is where its at. i got a nice 10ft cable for around. $4.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited May 2010
    +1 ^^^^ cheap but not cheaply made.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,055
    edited May 2010
    specd_out wrote: »
    Monoprice.com is where its at. i got a nice 10ft cable for around. $4.

    Right I always forget about them.

    Great suggestion!!
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  • pbinpb57
    pbinpb57 Posts: 19
    edited May 2010
    thsmith wrote: »
    +1 ^^^^ cheap but not cheaply made.

    Absolutely!
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  • scubalab
    scubalab Posts: 3,103
    edited May 2010
    + 2 (or 3) ^^^^^^ Monoprice cables are ridiculously nice cables at a FRACTION of what some name brands sell for.

    I got 150' of in-wall 12 AWG speaker cable, a 25' FAT! in-wall HDMI cable, a 25' heavy gauge in-wall component video cable, and a 25' in-wall VGA cable delivered to my door for under $100! That's less than I would have spent on JUST the HDMI cable at a box store in pretty packaging. First purchase from them, but WELL worth it. Quality WAY exceeded my expectations.
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  • FHT
    FHT Posts: 14
    edited May 2010
    - Infinite on Monoprice.com, I mean unless you want your credit card info stolen. Happened to me, some hacker got away with over $2000, and i am still fighting the fraud charges.....go to blue jeans or any other site that actually cares about the security of their customers
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2010
    There have been PLENTY of stores that have been hacked into & information stolen from them.

    It is simply the risk you take when using a credit card.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,055
    edited May 2010
    cfrizz wrote: »
    There have been PLENTY of stores that have been hacked into & information stolen from them.

    It is simply the risk you take when using a credit card.

    DO they accept Paypal? Not that I am buying anything
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited May 2010
    You can call monoprice directly & order as well.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited May 2010
    Willow wrote: »
    DO they accept Paypal? Not that I am buying anything

    Yes they accept paypal and that is the way that I always pay. However, Ebay/paypal was hacked too a few years ago. Like Kathy said, lots of companies get hacked that's the risk we all take when buying online.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    My experience with monoprice cables was a bad one. I bought several ICs and speaker cables a long while ago and it made my rig sound like there were pillows over the speakers.

    As far as a sub cable goes, I don't see where they could screw that up.
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  • classic carl
    classic carl Posts: 652
    edited May 2010
    FHT wrote: »
    - Infinite on Monoprice.com, I mean unless you want your credit card info stolen. Happened to me, some hacker got away with over $2000, and i am still fighting the fraud charges.....go to blue jeans or any other site that actually cares about the security of their customers

    I've had charges appear on my card several times in the past for things I did not buy. I simply called the card company and they removed them. If they give you any crap, ask to speak with a supervisor. It's worked every time.
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  • bshissias
    bshissias Posts: 9
    edited May 2010
    Sorry to hear that. Monoprice has been pretty good to me.
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    My experience with monoprice cables was a bad one. I bought several ICs and speaker cables a long while ago and it made my rig sound like there were pillows over the speakers.

    As far as a sub cable goes, I don't see where they could screw that up.

    Have to agree a bit with HI. Monoprice is a great deal, but not always the best quality. Better than Monster crap prices though any day of the week.

    I'm getting the feeling that you are looking for a little something extra, special? A few dollars laying around?

    If so, I would hit up Audiogon and eBay and every once in awhile you can find a single "stranded" cable originally from a set that is selling for much less than it should just because its not a pair anymore.

    For example I had a pair of Transparent Audio MusicLink Supers .5 meter that originally sold for $550. Lost one and couldn't use the remaining one by itself and they tend to be matched pairs. Sold it for $50 on ePay. Way below what a pair should go for but I knew I wouldn't get much for it. You might do a search for MIT, Kimber, Transparent, Vampire, etc.
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited May 2010
    Echosphere wrote: »
    Have to agree a bit with HI. Monoprice is a great deal, but not always the best quality. Better than Monster crap prices though any day of the week.

    I'm getting the feeling that you are looking for a little something extra, special? A few dollars laying around?

    If so, I would hit up Audiogon and eBay and every once in awhile you can find a single "stranded" cable originally from a set that is selling for much less than it should just because its not a pair anymore.

    For example I had a pair of Transparent Audio MusicLink Supers .5 meter that originally sold for $550. Lost one and couldn't use the remaining one by itself and they tend to be matched pairs. Sold it for $50 on ePay. Way below what a pair should go for but I knew I wouldn't get much for it. You might do a search for MIT, Kimber, Transparent, Vampire, etc.


    I will Echo sphere here. (I know....:p:D.)
    The monoprice cables are a good step up from the throw-away ones that come with new components. A good step up from monoprice, would be from Signal Cable. Very nice stuff, especially for the price. From there, let thy wallet be your guide.:D
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    LessisNevermore wrote: »
    I will Echo sphere here. (I know....:p:D.)
    The monoprice cables are a good step up from the throw-away ones that come with new components. A good step up from monoprice, would be from Signal Cable. Very nice stuff, especially for the price. From there, let thy wallet be your guide.:D

    Can't disagree with someone who agrees with me really. :)

    And really, less is NEVER more (sorry had to :D). By spending a few bucks more you'll get a better connector, which is good.

    packetjones is eyeing some of the Signal cables also. You can buy this one as a single.

    http://signalcable.com/analogone.html
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  • 32deuce
    32deuce Posts: 49
    edited May 2010
    I've never had a problem with Monoprice. I use paypal also.
    Quality of items is outstanding, and at a fraction of other "name" brands, which both do the same job.
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited May 2010
    five hundred dollar cables are a scam , itsa copper stranded wire with a pvc jaket no matter how you slice the pie( unless its hdmi or video line)Monoprice rocks
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    K-daugh wrote: »
    five hundred dollar cables are a scam , itsa copper stranded wire with a pvc jaket no matter how you slice the pie( unless its hdmi or video line)Monoprice rocks

    I agree, $500 cables are a scam. But at a used price of $125, it might just be a steal! :D
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited May 2010
    K-daugh wrote: »
    five hundred dollar cables are a scam , itsa copper stranded wire with a pvc jaket no matter how you slice the pie( unless its hdmi or video line)Monoprice rocks

    Really? How many $500 cables have you used and compared in your own rig to come to that conclusion?
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    Really? How many $500 cables have you used and compared in your own rig to come to that conclusion?

    The Transparent Audio MusicLink Supers cost me $500. They sounded very good. But that was 15 years ago, not sure if they are that well made anymore. I did hear a difference. I keep looking on AG and Epay, but they don't come up very much and still too expensive. And no, I wouldn't pay that much for them now new. I know better to spend more on gear. But to my ears, I heard a very nice, open soundstage with less noise. I would pay $100 for them used in a heartbeat. :)

    But spend $500? Thats more than half what I paid for my Mark Levinson. Heck no, I've learned. That's snake oil. ;)

    Snake oil is ALL about price: For 50 cents, that a good deal. For $500 that's a rip off. Fooled me once, not again! :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    K-daugh wrote: »
    five hundred dollar cables are a scam , itsa copper stranded wire with a pvc jaket no matter how you slice the pie( unless its hdmi or video line)Monoprice rocks

    Really? Would you care to list the $500 cables you've tried out and listened to critically to validate your statement.


    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Just the "Monoprice Rocks" speaks volumes as to your inexperience with higher end cables.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    Echosphere wrote: »
    I agree, $500 cables are a scam. But at a used price of $125, it might just be a steal! :D

    Don't go by the naysayers BS. Most of them never tried them out and go by just what they read rather than experience.

    Try them on your own before casting aspersions.;) You can get $500 MSRP ICs and speaker cables used for a lot less and in some instances, new for a lot less. If you don't like them or don't hear any difference you can flip for what you paid for them or close to it.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    Echosphere wrote: »
    The Transparent Audio MusicLink Supers cost me $500. They sounded very good. But that was 15 years ago, not sure if they are that well made anymore. I did hear a difference. I keep looking on AG and Epay, but they don't come up very much and still too expensive. And no, I wouldn't pay that much for them now new. I know better to spend more on gear. But to my ears, I heard a very nice, open soundstage with less noise. I would pay $100 for them used in a heartbeat. :)

    But spend $500? Thats more than half what I paid for my Mark Levinson. Heck no, I've learned. That's snake oil. ;)

    Snake oil is ALL about price: For 50 cents, that a good deal. For $500 that's a rip off. Fooled me once, not again! :D

    Echo you contradicted yourself twice. First you say they are are a scam then you say you heard a difference, then you say you heard a "very nice, open soundstage with less noise." :confused::confused::confused:

    Which is it?:)

    Snake oil isn't about price it's whether the products does what the manufacturer claims it does.


    BTW which Mark Levinson piece to you get for a little over $1K?
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
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    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Really? Would you care to list the $500 cables you've tried out and listened to critically to validate your statement.


    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Just the "Monoprice Rocks" speaks volumes as to your inexperience with higher end cables.
    Ok smart guy its impossible to justify five hundred dollar cables.....because there is only a certain amount of materials that can go into a wire .....not to mention stranded copper is stranded copper as long as its pure and oxygen free what's the difference from three four hundred dollar copper to ten dollar copper....really its common sense....I build houses for a living ......its like trying to justify putting super duper electrical lines in your walls...besides for the difference in gauge ...they are all the same
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    Five hundred dollar placebo
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited June 2010
    Attention Shoppers!

    We will be closing in...

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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    Ok if someone can explain what an exact difference is in the way the different cables are made besides the gimmicky outer jacket or cable wrap or whatever I'm talking the guts of the cables then let me know
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