Jumper cable upgrade
Ern Dog
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When I first got my Tyler acoustics, I used those brass plates and some cheap speaker wire- which did the job as jumper cables. Then I moved up to making my own from DH Labs Q-10 speaker cable. Nice improvement. Lots more sparkle and detail. Today I made some jumper cables from some PNF Symphony cable and it totally warmed up the presentation. Not sure which I like better yet. 
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Ok, without a doubt the new PNF jumpers are a better match for my rig.
Ever since I got rid of my Rogue Audio Tube amp and tube cdp and replaced it with a solid state amp and ss cdp, the tone of my rig has been tipped up. Now, today I finally found the culprit by changing out the jumpers and it resolved the problem. Everything is smoothed out now.
It is interesting that such a small thing as having the right jumper cables can make such a big difference. -
not to derail your topic, but what was your impression of Rogue audio and why did you move on from them?The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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I use the PNF wire on my lsi15 and q-10 jumpers to the mids/highs i really like the added sparkle it gives without making it too overdone. wanna sell ur q-10's?:pLiving Room Rig:D
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nooshinjohn wrote: »not to derail your topic, but what was your impression of Rogue audio and why did you move on from them?
It was the Rogue Stereo 90 and it sounded like **** when I first listened to it. Waaaayyy too mushy and warm. I resolved that easily by rolling in some NOS tubes- then I wasn't prepared for how intoxicating it sounded. Very smooth, but detailed at the same time. I sold it because there was some down sides: had to bias it regularly, tubes died and needed replacement (NOS tubes are expensive). it was a very delicate balance and I wanted something that didn't have so many different variables and wasn't so finicky. I looked towards Pass Labs amp because they offer the muscle and simplicity only solid state offers PLUS the sonic benefits of tubes w/out all the hassles. -
TouchOfEvil wrote: »I use the PNF wire on my lsi15 and q-10 jumpers to the mids/highs i really like the added sparkle it gives without making it too overdone. wanna sell ur q-10's?:p
Check the flea market -
Did you use some pnf wire you had left, or did you order a small length (if so how much?)?
I just bought some PNF symphony cables for my LSI15's. They were an upgrade from Monster XP, and sure sound smooth.
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Just my 2cents but I did see a pretty decent improvement in mids and highs after going from stock jumper plates to anti-cables (Paul Speltz) jumpers... 30$ for a stereo pair... not a bad deal.... havent used them for speaker wire though but am considering... anybody used them at all?Fronts: Wharfedale diamond 9.6
Sub: Wharfedale sw250
Rears: Wharfedale diamond 9.1
Center: Paradigm cc-350
Pre-amp: Oppo dv981hd
Amp for fronts: Parasound hca-1500a
Amp for rears: Adcom gfa-5400
Amp for center: Marantz MA500 monoblock
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Jer.war- I purchased a used single PNF cable from Audiogon and cut up to my lengths. This move totally opened the sound so that it sounds more natural and neutral.
Samnor- I've never tried the anti-cables, but at that price, it's worth a try.
Zingo- Thanks! -
i need to do some research, I have no clue what your talking about . The learning never ends.Onkyo TX-SR805
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I wanted to be more clear about something... It's not the new jumper cables that are adding all the benefits that I'm talking about with this upgrade. They are simple allowing a better transfer from all the gear upstream. The old jumper was choking off I'd say 40% of the benefits of the gear upstream.
Reberly- I'm talking about the brass plate that connects the top and bottom speaker posts in your LSi's. -
I was playing with jumpers last night. I've got several sets.
One is made from AQ type 8, one from Kimber 4tc, and one from a double run
of 14 ga stranded electrical wire. Strangely enough, putting my AQ speaker
cables on the treble terminals with any of the jumpers changes the sound
for the worse. The cymbal crashes lose their impact. So does brass
instruments. Putting the AQ cv-6's back on the other speaker connections
brings them back. The Kimber jumpers have the best treble sound.
Note, in order to do this, I swapped polarity on both speakers connections.
I'll have to spin around the cable and try it the proper way and see if it
has an effect. Either way, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
You'd think using a like speaker cable as a jumper would yield the same sound,
but the sound is either bass/tweeter terminal sensitive or polarity.
Either way, my head hurts."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
I run PNF Symphony speaker cable from my GTA SE40 to my Sonatina's and i was using 10ga bare solid copper wire for jumpers and it sounds really good but on a whim i called Steve Jain @ PNF Audio last night and ordered a 6' demo pair of symphony's so i can do the biwire thing.Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
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W WALDECKER wrote: »I run PNF Symphony speaker cable from my GTA SE40 to my Sonatina's and i was using 10ga bare solid copper wire for jumpers and it sounds really good but on a whim i called Steve Jain @ PNF Audio last night and ordered a 6' demo pair of symphony's so i can do the biwire thing.
I'd be interested to hear about the results of your experiment.
