Does my CDP suck or is it just me?

kp1706
kp1706 Posts: 37
edited April 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
I know this might sound like heresy in this forum but I recently bought an iPod 160GB Classic and ripped my CD's to it using Apples Lossless format. I swear my 2-channel music (actually 2.1) sounds better now then when I listened to the CDP. SACD still sounds awesome on the Player but the 2-channel music from the iPod sounds much richer and detailed in the mid-range and lower.
Anyone else notice this or is my hearing going south?:confused:
KP

Receiver: HK 354
Amp: Adcom GFA 555
Front: Polk Monitor 70
Center: CS2
Sub: PSW 125
Surrounds: Old Yammi's
CDP/DVDP: Sony DVP-NC600
Blue Ray: Samsung BD-D5700
TV: Sony 50" SXRD
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  • packetjones
    packetjones Posts: 1,059
    edited April 2010
    yes it sucks...:p
    Front - RTiA5's
    Rear - RTiA3's
    Center - CSiA4
    Sub - PSW110
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited April 2010
    Not knowing what CDP you have it could suck! What do you have?
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • kp1706
    kp1706 Posts: 37
    edited April 2010
    CDP/DVDP: Sony DVP-NC600
    KP

    Receiver: HK 354
    Amp: Adcom GFA 555
    Front: Polk Monitor 70
    Center: CS2
    Sub: PSW 125
    Surrounds: Old Yammi's
    CDP/DVDP: Sony DVP-NC600
    Blue Ray: Samsung BD-D5700
    TV: Sony 50" SXRD
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2010
    well the good news is all the new gear your going to be getting.

    have fun.

    RT1
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2010
    Your hearing is off and your CDP sucks! I think that's what you wanted to hear!
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited April 2010
    Consider yourself lucky because it doesn't sound like you have been afflicted with the disease of Audiophilia :)

    Enjoy the tunes!
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  • kp1706
    kp1706 Posts: 37
    edited April 2010
    dkg999 wrote: »
    Your hearing is off and your CDP sucks! I think that's what you wanted to hear!

    I guess I'll have to get that Oppo now and settle it once and for all, maybe a TT as well...:D
    KP

    Receiver: HK 354
    Amp: Adcom GFA 555
    Front: Polk Monitor 70
    Center: CS2
    Sub: PSW 125
    Surrounds: Old Yammi's
    CDP/DVDP: Sony DVP-NC600
    Blue Ray: Samsung BD-D5700
    TV: Sony 50" SXRD
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  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited April 2010
    Generally speaking, yes. But what types of music are you listening too? Because there are some types of music I actually prefer my ipod to play over digital optical to my receiver. Not in many cases, but sometimes heavily distortion guitar sounds better to my ears from a lower quality source. I really don't know why but if I had to guess, it'd be because trying to accurately reproduce distortion (from the guitar) just doesn't really make sense. Blurring the sound even more with a poor quality DAC sometimes sounds a little smoother to me.
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  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited April 2010
    Do you have any EQ settings turned on in the IPOD? This would change the way things sound.
    Living Room Rig:D
    Rotel RSP-1069/Rotel RMB-1095/Rotel-1072/Polk lsI15's W/modded xoverW/DBsubs/Polk LsiC/lsI7's/Klipsch sub-12"the weak link"/DLP Mitsubishi 65"
    Xbox360/PS3/WII
    M.Br. setup:)
    Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
    Computer Rig:
    Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
    Headphones-Ultrasone-HFI780's w/LittleDot MK Vamp Portables Panasonic HJE-900's
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited April 2010
    Welcome to the digital age. A Ipod in Lossless is just as good as a CD in sound quality if using external DAC's. I personally don't use the internal DAC's as I have a Pioneer ELite receiver with Ipod connection on the front which uses the Pioneer DAC's. I also have a Apple TV which I have connected VIA HDMI so it's also using the Pioneer's DAC's.
    I don't play single CD's anymore except Sacd and Dvd audio. I actually wish someone would come up with a hard drive so I can rip them as well.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited April 2010
    mantis wrote: »
    Welcome to the digital age. A Ipod in Lossless is just as good as a CD in sound quality if using external DAC's. I personally don't use the internal DAC's as I have a Pioneer ELite receiver with Ipod connection on the front which uses the Pioneer DAC's. I also have a Apple TV which I have connected VIA HDMI so it's also using the Pioneer's DAC's.
    I don't play single CD's anymore except Sacd and Dvd audio. I actually wish someone would come up with a hard drive so I can rip them as well.

    Are you sure your using the Pioneer's DAC. Last time I checked (maybe 5 months ago), there were ONLY two devices licensed by Apple to extract digital off the iPod. The Wadia dock and another dock I can't remember the name of. If your receiver isn't pretty new, your not getting digital off your iPod.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2010
    so CD's were not digital.....wow, that blows my mind!!!!!!!!

    RT1
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  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited April 2010
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    so CD's were not digital.....wow, that blows my mind!!!!!!!!

    RT1

    lol, what?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited April 2010
    Cpyder wrote: »
    lol, what?

    If you're LOL bud, you got it!:D
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  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited April 2010
    Cpyder wrote: »
    Generally speaking, yes. But what types of music are you listening too? Because there are some types of music I actually prefer my ipod to play over digital optical to my receiver. Not in many cases, but sometimes heavily distortion guitar sounds better to my ears from a lower quality source. I really don't know why but if I had to guess, it'd be because trying to accurately reproduce distortion (from the guitar) just doesn't really make sense. Blurring the sound even more with a poor quality DAC sometimes sounds a little smoother to me.

    Could this effect be from the fact that some distortion pedals turn the sound into sawtooth waves and no method of music reproduction can perfectly represent sawtooth waves. So when my ipod's DAC converts the data to an analog signal, it rounds off out the peaks and makes it sound a little more "musical"? (Didn't really know a better word to use.)
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