Want a few things. Anyone got?

PerfectCreature

I am looking to buy a receiver. I have come to decide on the Harmon Kardon HK 3490. If anyone has one of these lemme know a price and some pics...
If anyone has an amp relatively close to the specs this amp holds (I need as close to 150 watts per channel my monitor 50s) let me know as well. A sub-out is a must.
Next. I need a cd player for the receiver. I've seen a few posted for sale but have been to slow to take them. I need a component cd player. Pics and prices as well.
Please and thank you.

anhchungdoan

Do not know what you meant by " component CD player" but if you need a good CDP for 2 channel audio at a reasonable price, please search for the Rotel CDP1062/1072.

BTW, I own 3 of the Pio BDP51fd and I am very happy with them. You will have to spend over $1,000.00 to have a better SQ in 2 channel analog. I need to clarify that mine are not for sale. They are here to stay in my Pio system.

cstmar01

I might have a Pio Elite that I could sell. bought off the forum a few months ago but am finding I'm not using it.

Conradicles

anhchungdoan wrote: »

You will have to spend over $1,000.00 to have a better SQ in 2 channel analog.

Just curious, but how can you make a staement like that? Have you heard all of the player below 1K?:)

comfortablycurt

anhchungdoan wrote: »

BTW, I own 3 of the Pio BDP51fd and I am very happy with them. You will have to spend over $1,000.00 to have a better SQ in 2 channel analog. I need to clarify that mine are not for sale. They are here to stay in my Pio system.

Care to back that up?

If that statement was true every time I heard it thrown around...everything would sound better than everything else, no matter the price. Unless you've heard every option out there for less than $1000...you can't really back that up. I've heard pretty decent things about those Pio's, but you can find a HELL of a CD player for less than $1000. The Rotel RCD-1072, Oppo BDP83SE and with some searching, even a Marantz SA-11S1.

Keep your eye out for a Denon DVD-2910 universal player. It's an excellent 2 channel source, and they don't break the bank.

TECHNOKID

PC, if you want good exposure you need to be clear in your subject title.

In your case you need to specify you are on a budget (put some numbers) mention the gear you presently own and what you are trying to achieve.

IE: You just bought new Polk M50 right?
You just noticed your present amp (TEAC) is not appropriate to run
your new speakers, right?
You do not own a CDP at this point but want something better than MP3 or other computer format you have been usingm right?

So you basically are starting all over with limited budget. You want decent gear without breaking the bankm right?

Now, don't limit your self with CDP since you can achieve the same results with DVD or HDDVD players that can achieve decent SQ. Curt just gave you a good example with the Denon he suggested. Another example (you have just missed this one) is this: http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100453 and this was in fact recommended as a good CDP option: http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1327517&postcount=7

Other options are any HD DVD players which no longer support its defunct format but can be used a decent CDP and even allow you to upscale your DVDs if you own or rent any.

As pointed there are decent CDP players out there way below 1K$. You are building a modest mid-fi system, don't let people push you to buy equipment that is more likely made for higher-end set-ups.

Don't forget to check CP's FS daily and to check and keep active your own post. With patience you will find what you need within your own budget.


Cheers!
TK

PerfectCreature

Yeah it was already sold i skimmed down and saw 150 was ready to send pm but saw someone already got it.
Kinda crappy but oh well. You are correct in the fact that this is a limited budget.
I need a receiver as close to 150 watts RMS (as true to 150 as well) Under I'd say no more than 300-400
I also need a cd player (whatever, blueray, dvd it doesn't ,matter as long as it plays my cds) and wouldn't be willing to pay more than 200 for one of those...maybe more id it is really fantastic and does lots of neat tricks
Any one have suggestions?
Is there anything i am missing for my system?
Thanks for the help.

polkatese

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882005047

brand new BluRay. Can't get any cheaper than this.

PerfectCreature

Checked most the reviews...I don't mind spending a little extra cash to get something that I know will work 100%. I did not care for the majority fo reviews to be a 1 egg.
I never though of newegg for a decent cd player...never occurred.
Anyway.
Anyone got any good used receivers or cd players at some decent prices?

Oh by the way polkatese. I love the Hurt locker. Own it and watch all the time

polkatese

yes, Hurt Locker is an Excellent flick in my book!

As far as BD player, I bought one Panasonic BD60 off Amazon for $120 and some change, for Christmas present to my bro. Excellent player! Pics are great, features and media compatibility are plentiful. I installed it for him, connected to his LCD panel.

I just checked Amazon and it's no longer available there, and price went up to $199 from third party.

This one looks decent:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMP-BD45-Ultra-Fast-Booting-Blu-Ray/dp/B0038KV0BM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1272679547&sr=8-4

PerfectCreature

Hmm. I can just run that as a cd player?
I mean I have a ps3... So I really don't need a blu-ray...Just need a good cd player that when I'm not streaming I can have a good old cd.

polkatese

ah..my bad.

Have you checked ebay?

PerfectCreature

yeah nothing that stands out. i've checked already. They usualy have good deals but none I really saw that's standed out.
I look every day.
I wish I would have gotten that sony cd player up a few days ago...
Anyway. I appreciate the help man.
Thanks
May the search continue haha

mdaudioguy

PerfectCreature wrote: »

Hmm. I can just run that as a cd player?
I mean I have a ps3... So I really don't need a blu-ray...Just need a good cd player that when I'm not streaming I can have a good old cd.

The PS3 is not a bad CD player...

anhchungdoan

comfortablycurt wrote: »

Care to back that up?

If that statement was true every time I heard it thrown around...everything would sound better than everything else, no matter the price. Unless you've heard every option out there for less than $1000...you can't really back that up. I've heard pretty decent things about those Pio's, but you can find a HELL of a CD player for less than $1000. The Rotel RCD-1072, Oppo BDP83SE and with some searching, even a Marantz SA-11S1.

Keep your eye out for a Denon DVD-2910 universal player. It's an excellent 2 channel source, and they don't break the bank.

I do not have to back up my statement. I have replaced my Rotel 1062 with 3 of these BDP 51fd. Oppo 83 SE ? if you use HDMI out it does matter it 's an Oppo 83 SE or not SE. If you use the analog out, sorry Oppo would not stand a change.

Go to AVS forum and read abt the Pio BDO51FD to see what kind of value it is. I have used Rega, Rotel and the Cary CDP1, the Pio BDP 51 fd should be sold at $999.00 for its SQ.

PerfectCreature

I am not really looking for a 1000 anything...that's more than I paid for my car...
I can justify paying around 400 for a receiver...if its a nice one sure...and a hundred or so for a decent cd player or what not...but 1000 not a chance....
That was my budget for my stereo.... I've already spent about 400 of it....

Echosphere

PC you might like some of the Sony ES vintage CD players.

TouchOfEvil

At $100 bucks or slightly higher i'd look for a Denon 2910. It will do SACD as well and sounds pretty decent. It's also a dvd upscaler and does a darn good job at that as well.

Echosphere

TouchOfEvil wrote: »

At $100 bucks or slightly higher i'd look for a Denon 2910. It will do SACD as well and sounds pretty decent. It's also a dvd upscaler and does a darn good job at that as well.

I was just going to say...

Damn. Go with Evil. Good reco.

Watched Boiler Room last night. Facking great movie. Under-rated. You'll get it once you watch it folks.

TECHNOKID

mdaudioguy wrote: »

The PS3 is not a bad CD player...

+1, if you own a PS3 don't rush for a CDP, use the PS3 as a CDP and focus on the receiver for now.

Cheers!
TK

comfortablycurt

anhchungdoan wrote: »

I do not have to back up my statement. I have replaced my Rotel 1062 with 3 of these BDP 51fd. Oppo 83 SE ? if you use HDMI out it does matter it 's an Oppo 83 SE or not SE. If you use the analog out, sorry Oppo would not stand a change.

Go to AVS forum and read abt the Pio BDO51FD to see what kind of value it is. I have used Rega, Rotel and the Cary CDP1, the Pio BDP 51 fd should be sold at $999.00 for its SQ.

AVS forum? The idea of going there makes me feel a little sick...too many of the Anti-HiFi Insurgents over there for my tastes.:rolleyes:

No, I wasn't referring to the Oppo's HDMI outputs.


I've heard that those Pio's are decent for what they are(universal players). But, I find it impossible to believe that they're going to stand up to ANY CD player less than $1000. There's too much unnecessary circuitry in the signal path that muddies the sound up.

Have you heard and directly compared every player in the -1000 range? I highly doubt it. So, you don't really have anything to back that statement up.

You're claiming that the Pioneer BDP51FD Blu-ray player will smoke a Marantz SA11S1? They can be had for around $900 pretty easily, with a little patience.

I refuse to believe that one.








To the OP. If you're wanting to spend around $100 on a CD player, I'd strongly suggest looking into a used Denon 2910. I'm using one in my 2 channel rig, and it's a fantastic sounding player. It doesn't compete with higher end CD players, but for the price it's hard to beat. It's a fantastic sounding SACD player, for starters. It's Redbook playback is great as well. The internal DAC's are great...but things got even better with mine when I added an external DAC. It's got a Pure Direct mode that I use for SACD, that turns off the video outputs and digital outputs. For Redbook, I use the Denon as a transport with a DPA Little Bit Three DAC. My CD playback sounds excellent.

Things got better with the DAC, but they'll still sound great using the Denon's internal DAC's. If you got one, you might want to consider adding an external DAC sometime down the line. They can be had for pretty cheap...you can get a good one for less than $100 very easily. They'll make a tremendous difference in your sound.

PerfectCreature

Yeah. I saw one of those denons you mentioned on ebay. I have my currant bid at 18. Hopefully in the late hours of the bid I will be able to snag it for under 50...
So what about amps?
I seem to be struggling to find any really spectacular amps that are close to your guys recommendations that don't just trash my piggy bank for weeks to come.

anhchungdoan

comfortablycurt wrote: »

AVS forum? The idea of going there makes me feel a little sick...too many of the Anti-HiFi Insurgents over there for my tastes.:rolleyes:

No, I wasn't referring to the Oppo's HDMI outputs.


I've heard that those Pio's are decent for what they are(universal players). But, I find it impossible to believe that they're going to stand up to ANY CD player less than $1000. There's too much unnecessary circuitry in the signal path that muddies the sound up.

Have you heard and directly compared every player in the -1000 range? I highly doubt it. So, you don't really have anything to back that statement up.

You're claiming that the Pioneer BDP51FD Blu-ray player will smoke a Marantz SA11S1? They can be had for around $900 pretty easily, with a little patience.

I refuse to believe that one.








To the OP. If you're wanting to spend around $100 on a CD player, I'd strongly suggest looking into a used Denon 2910. I'm using one in my 2 channel rig, and it's a fantastic sounding player. It doesn't compete with higher end CD players, but for the price it's hard to beat. It's a fantastic sounding SACD player, for starters. It's Redbook playback is great as well. The internal DAC's are great...but things got even better with mine when I added an external DAC. It's got a Pure Direct mode that I use for SACD, that turns off the video outputs and digital outputs. For Redbook, I use the Denon as a transport with a DPA Little Bit Three DAC. My CD playback sounds excellent.

Things got better with the DAC, but they'll still sound great using the Denon's internal DAC's. If you got one, you might want to consider adding an external DAC sometime down the line. They can be had for pretty cheap...you can get a good one for less than $100 very easily. They'll make a tremendous difference in your sound.

Sorry to offend you and your Denon and Marantz. Yes, there are arrogant and narrowed-minded in any forum such as AVS and Club Polk. However, at AVS forum there are some very hepful owner threads that OP can use . Over 900 posts praised the performance/ cost ratio of the BDP51fd that means something. Also, the BPD1FD with its Wofson Dacs is second to none and it is not " made in China".


I am no fanboy of any brand name but I do stear away from unreliable manufactures and products with the " made in China" imprint on the back of the units and I know which is which.

PerfectCreature

I just looked at the Pioneer mentioned....Wow....that looks so sharp.
I wouldn't mind one of those at all.

mdaudioguy

TECHNOKID wrote: »

+1, if you own a PS3 don't rush for a CDP, use the PS3 as a CDP and focus on the receiver for now.

Cheers!
TK

+1 What he said... Put your money into an amp. Good luck!

PerfectCreature

I plan on getting the HK 3490....
That is what I have decided....
If anyone has one and is willing to sell met me know?

Conradicles

That is a great stereo and you should be pleased. I had one too.
Use the PS3 for a player until one better comes along that fits your budget. Enjoy!

anhchungdoan

PerfectCreature wrote: »

I just looked at the Pioneer mentioned....Wow....that looks so sharp.
I wouldn't mind one of those at all.

The Pio BDPO51FD/ BDp05 and the BDP09 all come with the PLSQ ( jitter reduction) when using with Pio AVR . Do not take my words for it, google around see how highly praised these BDPs when using as CDP with the PLSQ feature.

Keep in mind that the laser head has its own life span limited. I would never buy a used CDP for that reason.

The Denon 3910 (?) was a pretty decent one once it was moded. Still, I am against buying used CDP since you will never know how long it has been used .

Good luck and happy listening.:)

PerfectCreature

The cheapest I've found them is around 275-350.... Wish I could pick one up cheaper....
Only got like 160 right now....
Gah.
I hate having to listen to my muddy old teacs...

TECHNOKID

If you check Amazon.com, you can now get this one for 299.99 + 29.99 for shipping!
http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-3490-Performance-Radio-ready/dp/B00198F89A/ref=sr_1_1/183-5491930-3143646?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1272739413&sr=8-1

polkatese

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-ES-CDP-C85ES-MINT-box-manual-remote-NR-/230468495046?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35a8fe26c6#ht_5522wt_1167

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-CDP-209-ES-reduced-price-/150437472618?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2306c5a96a#ht_500wt_1182