Denon 4802

sgtgto
sgtgto Posts: 310
edited November 2001 in Technical/Setup
Hi:

Anyone out there seen or have the new Denon 4802 receiver? If so what do you think of it?

Gary:)
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited November 2001
    I have the 3802 and like it, but as you know the 4802 is in another class.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
  • trubluluc
    trubluluc Posts: 2,067
    edited November 2001
    I came. I saw. It was ok. I don't understand everyone's fascination with Denon. Except for their 5800, most of their cabinets seem cheap.
    Doors flex and don't seem solid. .05 distortion
    isn't bad, but it's not .015 like the Yamahas.
    I'm not sure about the 4802, but even the 5800 only had one sub-out. And I think the whole THX thing is way over rated.
    The price on the Yamaha RX-V1, has dropped from over 3000. to 2099. at the Goodguys.
    I would consider it in the running.

    -Luc
  • localnet
    localnet Posts: 43
    edited November 2001
    Well, I purchased the Denon 4802. Why did I purchase that specific model?

    It sounds AWESOME!

    I have heard things that I never knew were there, from NFL games to my favorite CD's and DVD's. And the sound is crystal clear.

    It has 125 watts x 7 channels. Making it easier to put speakers in other rooms, which I have done.

    I was one of the easiest units to set up.

    It has more hook up possibilities then any of the other units I looked at, other then the 5800.

    It is a solid and very heavy unit, I did not notice any skimping in the quality area.

    It has plenty of sub-out hookups. I have 4 subs hooked up individually to this unit, and it sounds great.

    It has an easy to use and program remote. Yea some have complained about it being clunky and difficult to use. I see it differently, it controls all of my equipment, which is the first remote that actually has been able to do that. (I am called the remote king around here, they're everywhere!)

    As far as looks? I bought it for its guts and hook ups. Yea, they could have done a better job on the asthetics, but that is not why I purchased. And the front door is solid.

    Besides, I dumped allot of hard earned cash into my Polk speakers.

    2000i's fronts
    1000i center
    FX 500's rear surrounds
    PSW 350 sub
    (PSW 650 soon to come)

    I am not an audiophile, I am more like a joe six pak who likes good clean sound. I am very happy with all of the above.

    I bought the Denon 4802 for $1700.00 delivered, off of e-bay.

    Michael
  • dbartol
    dbartol Posts: 66
    edited November 2001
    You said you hooked 4 individual subs to your Denon receiver, but then list only the 350 as subs owned. Am I missing something? Are you considering the internal subs on the RT2000's and the 1000i (I think you mean 1000p)? Those don't really count since they're are probably hooked up to pre-outs and not a LFE channel out (the Denon's and most other receivers only have 1 of these).

    Darrin
  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited November 2001
    i had listened to a few different denons just cause everyone seems to sell them, i have also heard 2 diff systems in homes of friends,the denon seemed to be missing something they just never seem to push the speakers to my tatse, but this is only my opinion everybody has there own taste my friends love theirs. i am not knocking anyones system just posting my opions here and there

    as always have fun with your theater :cool:
    Speakers:
    Definitive BP7001sc mains
    Definitive C/L/R 3000 center
    Polk RT800i's rears
    Definitive supercube I Sub
    Audio:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010
    Emotiva XPA five Gen 3
    OPPO BDP-103 CD, SACD, DVD-A
    Video:
    Panasonic TC-P65ZT60
    OPPO BDP-103 Bluray
    Directv x's 2
  • trubluluc
    trubluluc Posts: 2,067
    edited November 2001
    Localnet-

    I think the 4802 is a good receiver.
    I have searched the denon site, but can find no information claiming more than one sub out jack.
    I'm sure splitting the signal is easy enough.
    The only other info I wish denon would publish is the damping effect of their amps.

    as all, just want the mostest, for the leastest.
    -luc
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited November 2001
    Ok need to jump into this one.....So here it goes.
    I work with these receiver's everyday.Have had them at home at one time or another,tested them to death,owned to many and came up with some great founding's
    1.Yamaha makes great theater receiver's.Lots of power all the way down to there cheapest rxv.No load up time you can turn on and go just about that fast.Nice build quality and very reliable as just about all work out of the box and for along time.
    Bad thing's with Yamaha,very bright for music threw most speaker's like Polk, Klipsch,Boston acustic's .No 7th speaker for the rear just one center out.Poor 2nd zone control up to the rxv3000.Thats about it.But when you mate Yamaha with Mirage.....Damn thats a killer combo.RBH speaker's mte very well with Yamaha and as Vienna(only the rxv1).I heard Sonus Fiber threw Yamaha rxv1 and had mixed feeling's.I also found that Yamaha puts all there power p front and seems to distort when played loud.
    2.Denon also makes a great product.Sound warm and flat.Has nice stock remotes.Easy to use.Good power.Sound great with music.You can listen for long period's of time and not get a headache.
    Bad thing's about Denon....Poor multiroom from the 3801/2 and down(which not at all for the most part),sound alittle to soft for movie playback,not a good piece for custom Installer's(no IR in,1st zone needs to be on for 2nd zone to work)Volume ramps up to quickly.Mates very well with all Polk speaker's(especially the older rt line without the i series in place).Mates with most speaker's well except really laid back speaker's like Mirage.The AVR5800 doesn't share the same flaws as the rest of the line.
    The 4802 is a really nice middle Receiver.You get alot with it.It's
    worth the money you pay for it
    The Point I'm trying to make is that every receiver made has a job to do,mates well with certain speaker in the same class.
    When you look/buy a receiver you nedd to ask yourself if this one does everything I want it to do???If it doesn't then it's not for you.Does it sound good with I own or plan to buy??Am I bying this receiver because it fit's my wallet?If you answer yes to the wallet,and if it doesn't suit your needs then you wasted the amount that you left for it.
    Take this advice as you will.......Find the receiver that does everything you could ever want out of it,Sound first,need's second.upgradability is important as formats fall out everywhere you look.Seems like yo buy today and when you get home your behind already.
    It's very hard to find the right combo for yuor setu/room/personal need's.Just try to stay in the same class and you will find yourself much happier.
    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • sgtgto
    sgtgto Posts: 310
    edited November 2001
    Hi:

    Thanks for all the imput. I will audition the 4802 this week and I will post what I think about it.

    Gary
  • trubluluc
    trubluluc Posts: 2,067
    edited November 2001
    Hi Gary,

    Did you have a chance to hear the 4802 and compare it with the yamaha ?
    Just wondering what you thought.
    -luc
    :cool:
  • sgtgto
    sgtgto Posts: 310
    edited November 2001
    Hi:

    I have been so busy that I haven't been out to audition the 4802. I plan on going monday and I will post and tell you what I think.

    Gary
  • sgtgto
    sgtgto Posts: 310
    edited November 2001
    Hi:

    I didn't make it out today, am going wednesday. Will post then.

    Gary
  • trubluluc
    trubluluc Posts: 2,067
    edited November 2001
    Hi Gary,

    Went to the GG yesterday and tested the rx-v1 yamaha against the denon 4802 and 5800.
    I'm going with the yamaha.

    -luc
  • sgtgto
    sgtgto Posts: 310
    edited November 2001
    Hi:


    Went today and listened to the 4802. Really shined on dvd and the music was impressive also. Very detailed and channel assignment was the best I have heard. Built very well and the components in the build are top of the line. I have a B&K 3X200W amp for the front of my system so it was hard to tell on the music test since the system I have really shines also.

    Will I buy it? I haven't made up my mind yet.

    How much is the Yamaha you plan on buying?


    Gary
  • trubluluc
    trubluluc Posts: 2,067
    edited November 2001
    Gary,

    The rx-v1 (flagship) just dropped from 3199.00
    to 2099.00. If you think the denon build is awesome, check out the yam; oil dampened door,
    0-99 volume, that is smooth and precise.
    .015 THD compared to .05 for the denon.
    Though at 61 pounds, it is a little heavy.
    But gotta dig the heavy duty heat sinks.
    Also has 7.1, and 2 sub outs, which is important to me as I'm running dual subs.
    And the icing on the cake for me was: if you buy before Feb. Yamaha will through in their new
    499.00 touchscreen remote, at no charge.

    I get it Friday, I'll let you know.

    -luc
  • sgtgto
    sgtgto Posts: 310
    edited November 2001
    Hi:

    I ordered the 4802 today should recieve it early next week. Will tell all how I like it when I get it set up.

    Gary