Polk S20's

UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
I decided to pick up a set of S20's for my basement/ workshop...

I'm not going to go into too much detail since they are basically a background speaker for me when I'm getting stuff done, but I did take some time with them.

To me, they are standard Polk. Don't have a ton of musical detail and soundstage presence and have an overly inflated bottom end that make them sound like they are trying too hard. But for a workshop, they will do fine.

I was getting frustrated with the overly emphasized bottom end and I decided to remove the "power port" on the back of the speakers to see of that calmed them down a bit. It did balance them a bit more.

Far better balance and it took away some of the "boomy" aspects of the speaker. Still a bit heavy on the bottom end for me, I like a properly balanced speaker, but much better.

I use an old Marantz receiver for power and my iPhone as a source (ALAC rips). I might bring them up to the HT for a tour, just to see how they stack up the to the Focal's...
Living room:
Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

2Ch:
Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
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  • msgmsg Posts: 4,270
    How close do you have them to the back wall?
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    About 14" off the wall .

    I'll be honest, this is NOT the best set up I can come up with. For that I have other options...

    But it feels like I just rewound all the way back to the LSi 9's that tried too hard to be a full range speaker.

    Again, for the system I'm using them in, 100% fine.
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,877
    What are you powering them with? Perhaps give them more time as well as the midrange is usually where a speaker blossoms as it gets more hours on it.

    I honestly haven't spent a ton of time with the S20 (most of mine has been with the S60) so I don't know if you are hearing what they are or not. I do know I find the S60 to be very well balanced and engaging. My brief sessions with the others in the line lead me to believe that is a common thread but maybe I need to reevaluate.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    Hey Skip,

    I've got about 40 hours on them at the moment. Not what I consider "broken in".

    But I usually have a decent feel for the speaker. I'm actually worried that the bottom end will open up some more!

    I have an old Marantz "NR" series receiver powering them. Again, not nearly my best effort, but not terrible either.

    I do want to see what they can do when put into a larger room and more power.

    My wife and kids are out of town through Monday, maybe I'll play around!
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,877
    This is a bit of self promotion and I apologize, but the Dayens Ampino really makes these sound great. If the NR ends up being a culprit I'd highly recommend this as an alternative.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    I'm fully aware the equipment might be part of the problem. But the part that makes me a but nervous is that many of the people shopping for this speaker will be driving them off of similar level equipment, not a Dayens Ampino...

    I'll slowly upgrade the equipment in the workroom, but it's not really a focus for me.
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,877
    I know you were - hence why you brought it up. I'm hoping they smooth out for you some.

    Heck, maybe even some cheap crossover upgrades could take them up a notch or two if they don't. I've actually been toying around with that idea on my S60 just to see what happens.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 2,772
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Simple idea...free too...why not go into the AVRs settings...there's a tone control menu there somewhere, knock the bass back a notch or two. Can't hurt for a garage system.

    Fixed.
  • msgmsg Posts: 4,270
    edited August 2017
    So about 14" from the back wall - how about sides and front? I had an issue not too long ago with speaker/rack crowding. I had a set of speakers sitting in between another set and a stand/cabinet in the middle. Even though I had adequate room behind, and had them even with the front edges of outboard speakers and the center cabinet, it wasn't until I pulled them out in front of the other speakers and cabinet in that they sounded less muffled/squished. Probably had about a foot or a little more between these speakers and the other components. To me, I think this was my first experience where it occurred to me that the speakers may not have had adequate room to breathe, and I just didn't notice how bad it was until spending more time with the outboard speakers and then pulling out the ones "inside" to give them some room.

    Curious about the receiver you're using, as well. Which model is that, anyway?

    I have to wonder whether most prospective owners would be using a sub or going straight 2ch with these. I found them to do nicely in straight 2ch with a decent front end and a few placement considerations. I can see how they might sound boomy though, but that wasn't my experience with them at all, in fact, I found it a bit lighter in the bottom end than what I was used to.

    I'm curious to hear more about the placement and AVR model specs, just for the sake of performance comparison given the differences in our experiences.
    Post edited by msg on
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,877
    Good points. I don't play with receivers much so I don't know how they do on just about any speaker. I do have the S60 hooked up to a Pioneer, but it is an SC-63 and not your typical receiver that would pair with these bookies.

    Unfortunately I always test speakers with a good front end so my experience might not be indicative of what others may experience.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 7,181
    I know with the LSiM-703's, I was rather disappointed at first until they had broken in for quite some time, maybe even a couple hundred hours but now I really like them. Almost sold them shortly after purchase. Would've been a big mistake considering what they cost me. I'd give the S20's more break-in time as well.
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    They are hooked up to a Marantz NR series receiver. I want to say it's a NR1501...

    I got it from a buddy when my old Denon kicked the bucket and he told me to keep it for a "rainy day" so I put it into service for the workroom when I decided I needed something down there.

    Space on the side and above is pretty open and not constricted. One side has some stuff about 8" away and the other side is fairly open.

    I think with a sub the speakers would be far better. When asked to run full range, they just seem to way over emphasize the bass. I might have an extra sub I can throw in the mix and see how it goes. First I'll bring them up the HT and see how they compare to the Focal's. With a FAR better receiver and subs in the mix.
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • msgmsg Posts: 4,270
    Man. Crazy. I was really expecting you to say they were facing the wrong way in a bookshelf full of old dusty Bibles or something.

    There isn't a loudness feature turned on in the receiver is there?
    Tone all zero'd out? Is this one of those digital units that you can execute a factory reset on, or is it all knobs?
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    I have it set to "Source Direct" (should defeat all tone controls) and I had all the other stuff turned off to begin with.

    I might hook a TV up to it soon and double check all settings. But I've really NEVER used tone controls in any of my systems/components...
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,877
    Tone controls are the devil!
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,375
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    I have it set to "Source Direct" (should defeat all tone controls) and I had all the other stuff turned off to begin with.

    I might hook a TV up to it soon and double check all settings. But I've really NEVER used tone controls in any of my systems/components...

    There's your problem. AVR's sound like crap without the calibration/processing engaged.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    F1nut wrote: »
    There's your problem. AVR's sound like crap without the calibration/processing engaged.

    I've had other speakers hooked up to this receiver without this issue.

    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • msgmsg Posts: 4,270
    F1nut wrote: »
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    I have it set to "Source Direct" (should defeat all tone controls) and I had all the other stuff turned off to begin with.
    I might hook a TV up to it soon and double check all settings. But I've really NEVER used tone controls in any of my systems/components...
    There's your problem. AVR's sound like crap without the calibration/processing engaged.
    RePORTED!
    (I'm practicing cherrypicking)
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,469
    I have S20's running off a SR5010. I do have a good sub in the mix but I find them to be a very nice speaker.

    For most of my afternoon unwinds I will just DLNA some MP's at it (to lazy to get the CD from downstairs) and have it in AFD mode, direct doesn't sound too good.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 9,859
    @msg is an arsehule....Ken @nbrowser says so.

    But! Don't discount them yet.
    When I get back home. I want to have a monoblock-bookie showdown between the S20, some old and new KEF, doo-daa-day......
    We'll see what happens.
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    mrloren wrote: »
    I have S20's running off a SR5010. I do have a good sub in the mix but I find them to be a very nice speaker.

    For most of my afternoon unwinds I will just DLNA some MP's at it (to lazy to get the CD from downstairs) and have it in AFD mode, direct doesn't sound too good.

    I think the sub is an important part of the mix for these. Makes sure they are not trying to play too low.

    Direct mode usually shuts of the subs, so that makes sense...

    Do your subs shut down when in direct?
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,469
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    mrloren wrote: »
    I have S20's running off a SR5010. I do have a good sub in the mix but I find them to be a very nice speaker.

    For most of my afternoon unwinds I will just DLNA some MP's at it (to lazy to get the CD from downstairs) and have it in AFD mode, direct doesn't sound too good.

    I think the sub is an important part of the mix for these. Makes sure they are not trying to play too low.

    Direct mode usually shuts of the subs, so that makes sense...

    Do your subs shut down when in direct?

    No the sub stays on in direct I have it set to LFE+Main. When streaming MP3 from my PC to the Marantz I get the best sound when in AFD. Now CD are better in direct mode. Then again I listen to most CD downstairs on my main system with the S60.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,375
    msg wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    I have it set to "Source Direct" (should defeat all tone controls) and I had all the other stuff turned off to begin with.
    I might hook a TV up to it soon and double check all settings. But I've really NEVER used tone controls in any of my systems/components...
    There's your problem. AVR's sound like crap without the calibration/processing engaged.
    RePORTED!
    (I'm practicing cherrypicking)

    And doing a stellar job.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • pkquatpkquat Posts: 595
    I stumbled on this thread. I'm curious how the s20's compare to their M4 / M5jr cousins. Even M5jr+ 2nd cousins could count if you only compare the lower midrange and up.
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    pkquat wrote: »
    I stumbled on this thread. I'm curious how the s20's compare to their M4 / M5jr cousins. Even M5jr+ 2nd cousins could count if you only compare the lower midrange and up.

    I personally have no experience with those to make the comparison.

    Hopefully someone else can chime in and offer an opinion...
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • adam2434adam2434 Posts: 950
    I’ve been playing with a pair of S20 and also feel they are bass-heavy in the spots I’ve tested them, which are:

    1) In garage, on shelves in corners near ceiling: the S20 sound very bass-heavy vs. Monitor 7C in this same position. The S20 bass overwhelms the presentation. The powerport cage is only a few inches from the wall and there is significant boundary reinforcement from proximity to walls and ceiling.

    2) In large, unfinished part of basement with back of speakers around 12” from rear wall and no corners within 10’ (tweeters at ear level when standing): the S20 bass is still a bit overwhelming in this large open space, away from corners. I should be able to get the back of the speakers about 18” from the rear wall, and will give that a test. I usually have a pair of Klipsch Forte or JBL LS80 in this spot (swap them in and out) - the S20 are noticeably more bass-heavy and not as balanced because of this, which is crazy given that they bookshelf speakers vs. the large floorstanding Klipsch and JBL.

    From what I’ve experienced so far, I think the S20 will need a lot of breathing room to not sound bass-heavy in a 2.0 ch context.

    Polk LS90
    Polk CS400i
    Polk FX500i
    Outlaw LFM-1 Sub
    Polk Monitor 7C (secondary location)
    Pioneer Elite VSX-45TX
    Audiosource Amp Three (2), Amp One/A (1)
    Cambridge Audio C500 Preamp
    Sony 222ES CD/SACD
    MSB Nelson Link III DAC with P1000 Power Supply, Music Hall DAC 25.2
    Squeezebox Classic
    Sony BDP-S1000ES
    JVC DLA-HD250 Projector
    Da-Lite HCCV - 100" Permwall 16:9
    Time Warner HD Cable
    Panamax 500 DBS
    MIT, Blue Jeans, AR, Outlaw Cables
    System Showcase
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    Well, now Crutchfield dropped the price by $50 (down to $249.99).

    After my rewards points that I turned in and the price drop, I basically got them for nothing...

    What is the best way to restrict a port?

    I don't want to plug it, but I want to experiment with the speaker. The port on these things are comically large...

    I think the guy that designed the port on them is probably the same guy that is responsible for drawing eyes for anime characters.
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,877
    edited August 2017
    What if you put spikes underneath them instead? Maybe that would eliminate some of that bass. Something else to elevate them may help as well.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,220
    I did not think about spikes...

    I was contemplating some of the sorbothane hemisphere things though. Any experience with them, Skip?
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,877
    It's been a long time and my ears were not as good as they are now. My thought is if you can get them a few inches of clearance it should give them more room to breathe and balance out the bass some more.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
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