I want to build a pair of polk sda 1.2's . Help?

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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited December 2008
    Yes,, with the AI-1 Dreadnaught,, Dodd ELP pre with Amperex 7308's,, has not sounded this good in 17 years,, this week will replace the tweeters with the RDO's and bypass the poly's,eliminate the silver micas and replace the solens with sonicaps,, and dynamat the PR and drivers,, should be good to go for a few more years.:)
    Sounds like a pretty nice setup :) Those Amperex 7308's are supposed to be even better quality than the 6922 E88CC 6JD8 ECC88 combos from what I have read. I have read many nice things about the Dodd pre also. Wish I was closer so I could listen to your setup.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited December 2008
    snow wrote: »
    Sounds like a pretty nice setup :) Those Amperex 7308's are supposed to be even better quality than the 6922 E88CC 6JD8 ECC88 combos from what I have read. I have read many nice things about the Dodd pre also. Wish I was closer so I could listen to your setup.



    REGARDS SNOW

    If you're ever in the neighborhood,gimme' a shout.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,415
    edited December 2008
    wtf is Tina?
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited December 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    If you're driving the larger SDA's with a $300 amp, you don't deserve the speakers.

    I'm not certain what this means. I had a brilliant and perceptive pastor once who was fond of saying, "Whether it's good or bad, you always get what you don't deserve."

    Now those are some words to live by.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
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    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
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    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited December 2008
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    wtf is Tina?

    Probably some dude already in the group who created an alias to see what kind of muck he could rake up by posing as "Tina" and placing post #1 above !!!
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,692
    edited December 2008
    "Whether it's good or bad, you always get what you don't deserve."

    BDT can tell you exactly what it means, "Life is suck."
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited December 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    BDT can tell you . . .

    I guess I've not been in long enough to know who/what "BDT" is. Is it a life lesson or speaker lesson that can be told ??
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • tina902
    tina902 Posts: 25
    edited December 2008
    Thanks for the replies all you young & old dudes! I don't feel I was 100% clear on my plan.I've heard the speakers several times over the yrs..so its not the sound I crave.Its more of a memory from the 80's. I bought my first denon receiver & polk 5 jr speakers during the late 80's & was mesmorized by the huge
    1.2 tL polks.I had no room for them & funds were tight so I figured I picked them up latrer in the future.I now have smaller polks which fit my apt. better. I realize building a pair would be wayyyyyyyyyyy too pricey, not my goal. I want the exact looking cabinet & drivers basically...the insides could be virtually empty. However..when I said "dead cabinet" I guess meant..a dead speaker that didn't play & that was gutted out pretty much since I wouldn't be able to play it in my apt. with neighbors + they're just too heavy for future moving. . So, I wouldn't need all the heavy bracing, magnets, wires etc. from within. I felt maybe a cabinet that looked like it would do, then add some drivers that didn't have to be from polk. I want them for display in my music/video room..just for looks. Make any more sense now? And why won't polk audio supply the cabinets & drivers & allow people like moi..to put a pair together minus the crossovers, magnets, wires etc. (can you spare some glue please!) I know polk audio has no desire to make the 1.2's again but why not at least supply the cabinet etc..by order only??? I miss the huge & sexy bigger speakers.

    tina
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited December 2008
    I'm not sure if it's the groups place to say if it's right or wrong to build psuedo-Polks, but it's a free country so . . . this might help . . .

    http://www.polksda.com/pdfs/SDASRS1-2.pdf

    Weights / measurements are near the end.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited December 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Hugh? :confused::confused::confused:

    I still can't tell if "Tina" is being on the level with us or pulling our legs !!
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,316
    edited December 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    If you're driving the larger SDA's with a $300 amp, you don't deserve the speakers.

    If you post cynical sweeping statements you don't deserve to be "president club Polk." :D I'm sorry you led with your chin on that one. We'd all love to drive our big polks with expensive amps wouldn't we. Just because we all can't (basic living expenses get in the way sometimes) doesn't mean that we can't enjoy them. Good used amps turn up all day long in the $300 price range. In fact I'm bi-amping my big polks with a pair of $300 used amps right now. I also have zero desire to upgrade these very nice amps. Thanks for the heads up though. I'll make sure and keep an eye out for the polk police who should be arriving shortly to remove my big sda's from my undeserving household.:eek:
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2008
    F1's advice is right on;), the others just need to go stand in the corner, rest your neck, unzip and play with yourself:p.

    Stacking a bunch of 300 dollar amps with some FrankenPolks is a recipe for a "Wall of Bad Sound".

    You would be much better off with one quality amplifier designed to actually convey a musical phrase.

    RT1--Chief of Police.:D
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,316
    edited December 2008
    F1's advice is right on;), the others just need to go stand in the corner, rest your neck, unzip and play with yourself:p.

    Stacking a bunch of 300 dollar amps with some FrankenPolks is a recipe for a "Wall of Bad Sound".

    You would be much better off with one quality amplifier designed to actually convey a musical phrase.

    RT1--Chief of Police.:D

    No "stacking amps" and no "frankenpolks" here whatever those are. I'll be waiting for your arrival chief:D
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited December 2008
    F1's advice is right on;), the others just need to go stand in the corner, rest your neck, unzip and play with yourself:p.

    Stacking a bunch of 300 dollar amps with some FrankenPolks is a recipe for a "Wall of Bad Sound".

    You would be much better off with one quality amplifier designed to actually convey a musical phrase.

    RT1--Chief of Police.:D

    Thanks Teddy. If I had more money I would love to have nicer amps, but the sad fact is I don't. How many Polkies have started out with Adcom's and SDA's? Thanks Teddy. Many have. Most move on when they can afford to. Just like moving on with cables. I don't think anyone thinks Adcom's are the be all end all amps. Why do you see me recommend Adcom's to new SDA owners? It is a great way to start. You can get them used to get you going, and sell them for what you paid for them when you are ready to move on;) What did your first system start with? BTW I never thought that the 565's, and the 585's were so frowned on:rolleyes:
    Thanks
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,316
    edited December 2008
    Hi Ben; I'd like to compliment you on those beautiful monster sda's that you built. Nice job and I bet they sound nice as well. Hopefully they aren't considered "frankenpolks" for which you'll have the "chief" after you. I can't for the life of me understand why some folks here will rag on someone else's set up if it isn't up to their standards. I never thought of the bigger adcoms being all that crappy either.
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2008
    I can't for the life of me understand why some folks here will rag on someone else's set up if it isn't up to their standards.

    Totally agree, like when some guy started a whole thread on the Forum entitled Polk Lsi Speaker Owners your Lsi's Suck.

    I just special ordered two I Love Adcom T-shirts today.;)

    My first rig was a transistor radio, but I used a Reel good battery and modded the crossover, made everyone else's transistor radio sound like painted ****.

    RT1
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited December 2008
    If you post cynical sweeping statements you don't deserve to be "president club Polk." :D I'm sorry you led with your chin on that one. We'd all love to drive our big polks with expensive amps wouldn't we. Just because we all can't (basic living expenses get in the way sometimes) doesn't mean that we can't enjoy them. Good used amps turn up all day long in the $300 price range. In fact I'm bi-amping my big polks with a pair of $300 used amps right now. I also have zero desire to upgrade these very nice amps. Thanks for the heads up though. I'll make sure and keep an eye out for the polk police who should be arriving shortly to remove my big sda's from my undeserving household.:eek:
    Sometimes you need to read between the lines. I think that what Jesse is trying to convey here is that you are doing yourself an injustice if your money spent on an amp versus speakers is so unequal. As a general rule the $$ spent should be more equal between speakers. pre. amp/s source. cables than a 3k set of speakers and a $300.00 amp. Also I didnt see Jesse say $300.00 (amps) it was a $300.00 amp odds are if you are a bargain shopper you most likely could pick up a $1500.00 retail or more amp for $300.00 X 2 that would put you pretty close to being more equal. But in all reality as RT mentioned you still would be better off with a single $3000.00 retail better quality amp than 2 lower quality $1500.00 retail amps soundwise.

    Just my 2 cents



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2008
    Thank You Snow. Hey can you see Russia from your house???

    RT1
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited December 2008
    Thank You Snow. Hey can you see Russia from your house???

    RT1
    No lol. The closest spot between russia and alaska would be between Big and Little Diomede islands which is quite aways away from my house.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,316
    edited December 2008
    Totally agree, like when some guy started a whole thread on the Forum entitled Polk Lsi Speaker Owners your Lsi's Suck.

    I just special ordered two I Love Adcom T-shirts today.;)

    My first rig was a transistor radio, but I used a Reel good battery and modded the crossover, made everyone else's transistor radio sound like painted ****.

    RT1

    You is the man Chief:D
  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited December 2008
    Tina- to bring your thread around to topic... I think the best idea for you would be to find one of the original sales posters for the 1.2s and hang it on a wall. Much easier to move. And when you do get a place to yourself and get get the big SDA's, you won't have those empty cabinets to try to get rid of...
    Ludicrous gibs!
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited December 2008
    Totally agree, like when some guy started a whole thread on the Forum entitled Polk Lsi Speaker Owners your Lsi's Suck.

    I just special ordered two I Love Adcom T-shirts today.;)

    My first rig was a transistor radio, but I used a Reel good battery and modded the crossover, made everyone else's transistor radio sound like painted ****.

    RT1

    Teddy the title of the LSI's suck thread was an attention grabber. Just like when I started a thread "I am going to burn and smash all my Polk's" The LSi's are very well built with very good drivers, but the caps used in the LSi's severely limit the performance of them(like lots of speaker builders do(I had to make that clear too:rolleyes:)). I thought I made that clear enough that people could understand, but I guess some missed it:( I do regret naming the thread that. I did not take into consideration that a lot of people use search engines, and Polk comes up near the top in most Polk searches. I tried to get the name of the thread changed multiple times by the mods, but the mods would rather have an example of my poor judgment than do what's best for the company that pays them.
    Have a safe and happy new year.
    Ben

    Edit: BTW F1nut and I have dry humor. I certainly don't think of him as a fool with money senselessly thrown away. He has made very solid choices in his gear. Many have grown to new levels do to his advice. MIT cables are a good example. I trust his ears, and ears of friends that have gone his route enjoying the upgrades that he has suggested;)
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2008
    Then there was that guy that posted on the forum about how he had unilaterally helped more people here than any other member, what a saint.

    RT1
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited December 2008
    and I thought I had a very DRY sense of humor,,, Ted,, what size are those adcom tee's;) carry on gentlemen,, I'm going home and put on the phones to some vinyl.:cool:
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2008
    Triple **** George.

    Like the man said, Go Large or Go Home.

    I kinda like Noah's idea, the OP would at least have a picture of a Wall of Good Sound.

    RT1
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited December 2008
    Triple **** George.

    Like the man said, Go Large or Go Home.

    I kinda like Noah's idea, the OP would at least have a picture of a Wall of Good Sound.

    RT1


    LOL,, or maybe the "dead's" WOS
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,692
    edited December 2008
    If you post cynical sweeping statements you don't deserve to be "president club Polk." :D I'm sorry you led with your chin on that one. We'd all love to drive our big polks with expensive amps wouldn't we. Just because we all can't (basic living expenses get in the way sometimes) doesn't mean that we can't enjoy them. Good used amps turn up all day long in the $300 price range. In fact I'm bi-amping my big polks with a pair of $300 used amps right now. I also have zero desire to upgrade these very nice amps. Thanks for the heads up though. I'll make sure and keep an eye out for the polk police who should be arriving shortly to remove my big sda's from my undeserving household.:eek:

    Aim higher next time, you missed.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2008
    Just because they build a speaker that LOOKS like Polk SDAs...What makes anyone think they can build a speaker that SOUNDS like Polk SDAs?

    Listening to Matt talk about the design work and subtle tweeks that he does with the SDA effect crossovers even now leads me to believe that there are few who could come close to matching the SDA performance...
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited December 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Aim higher next time, you missed.

    That was good. ;)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Aim higher next time, you missed.


    well he may not know Your Bad, Your Nationwide, Hell, Your International.

    Red and White
    Blue Suede Shoes
    I'm Uncle Sam
    How do you do

    Rock on George.

    RT1--Edit, Hey Jess you want an Adcom T-shirt????