Pioneer Elite receivers

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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    I found mine dead on :confused:


    Using a 84 with a tri-pod sitting Mic at ear level at sweet spot. I also shut of all ceiling fans and any noise in the room, stand out of room and hit go. Just beautiful I couldn't ever match it so well if done myself, one of the strong points of Pioneer IMHO.

    I did all that too. Tripod, no ac etc...I do have a huge room. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
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    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2008
    Also about this MCAAC the Mic was facing to ceiling. My over room is like 20x20x10' ceilings, but my viewing area in this room is like 15x12' not sure if this helps but there you have it.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Also about this MCAAC the Mic was facing to ceiling. My over room is like 20x20x10' ceilings, but my viewing area in this room is like 15x12' not sure if this helps but there you have it.

    Mine was angled toward the ceiling but not directly up. My room is about 26X27X12 and my viewing area is about 13x12.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2008
    Try it and let us know, it worked for me :)

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • tboo72
    tboo72 Posts: 225
    edited October 2008
    I had a vsx-49txi for a while. That thing was a tank.
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  • warlocks1
    warlocks1 Posts: 1,260
    edited October 2008
    I had an Elite 81 model running Martin Logan Clarity speakers and switched to my old Lexicon MC1 and Atlantic Technology a2000 amp (7x125 watts). The Lexicon and AT amp blew the Elite receiver out of the water. The Elite I have is a lower end receiver, but I still believe quality seperates are the way to go. To be far, I have never owned a $1500 plus receiver and the Lexicon, although old, is one hell of a processor.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited October 2008
    Hey Dan,
    Love the thread. I've got a few questions about an Elite model. I'm planning to get the new entry level Elite. I think it's the 01-XTH or something. I'm planning to get it because I'm going to start a fresh HT.

    So my question is, how would that receiver sound with Polk's new OWM 3 speakers? I'm thinking about getting 6 of those and use my PSW650 sub. Is the receiver overkill? I really want it because it's THX Ultra2 and I want the auto calibration. I'm stuck on the OWM because the new HT will be together with my 2ch set up. The 2ch set up will remain there so the speakers have to be small and I have to mount them on the wall. Do you think a system like this will reach reference level spl?

    Thanks
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    the 01 is a great receiver also, if you can spare it in the budget I'd go with the 92 or 94 which was last yrs flagship models and can be had right around the same price as the 01. Overkill, hardly. You'll be fine with either model. I have listened to all of them while doing my homework and they all sound outstanding. The only one I have yet to hear or see is the king of the hill: the SC09.
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  • doggie750
    doggie750 Posts: 1,160
    edited October 2008
    Sherardp wrote: »
    PM me if you want the best price on a 94. I went Value Electronics and Robert has the best price I have seen on the 94 and the new SC models.

    temptation..............:D
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited October 2008
    Hey, I've got an install question that you might have run into:

    So, my friend has a Pioneer plasma with an SR+ jack. I've read that the SR protocol is basically a flavor of IR- what i want to do is use the SR output to feed into a Xantech distribution system. In other words, use TV as an IR detector. I can go the other direction (control the TV w/ xantech via a 794), but haven't been able to figure out if I can get the IR signals out of the TV.

    The problem is that we're getting some major IR interference from the plasma- even when using plasma-proof detectors, so I figured what better detector than the one in the TV?
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,325
    edited October 2008
    Sherardp wrote: »
    the 01 is a great receiver also, if you can spare it in the budget I'd go with the 92 or 94 which was last yrs flagship models and can be had right around the same price as the 01. Overkill, hardly. You'll be fine with either model. I have listened to all of them while doing my homework and they all sound outstanding. The only one I have yet to hear or see is the king of the hill: the SC09.

    Great advise. I don't think the 01 is overkill. Pioneer Elite and polk 8 ohm speakers go together very well. I enjoy every polk/elite Install I do.

    Looking for a 92 or 94 is excellent. You can get a killer still up to date receiver for less.

    Good luck with your new HT,

    Dan
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,325
    edited October 2008
    unc2701 wrote: »
    Hey, I've got an install question that you might have run into:

    So, my friend has a Pioneer plasma with an SR+ jack. I've read that the SR protocol is basically a flavor of IR- what i want to do is use the SR output to feed into a Xantech distribution system. In other words, use TV as an IR detector. I can go the other direction (control the TV w/ xantech via a 794), but haven't been able to figure out if I can get the IR signals out of the TV.

    The problem is that we're getting some major IR interference from the plasma- even when using plasma-proof detectors, so I figured what better detector than the one in the TV?

    Niles makes a plasma proof "detector" Ir sensor that works great. I have used it many times with no problems. Basically it has a "blue" filter which is where to plasma interference comes in. Now using the tv as a sensor I have not used along with a Ir repeater system. It's something you can try as the Pioner Sr system works basically the same way. It should pass any IR signal to your Ir system. If it doesn't work, Buy the Niles Sensor. Its cheap enough.

    Dan
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2008
    Sherardp wrote: »
    I need to order something since my 7100ES wont pass 1080p.


    I believe the 7100ES will pass 1080P. Howver, it will not decode the latest surround sound formats. Go to this site for any Sony questions.
    http://www.agoraquest.com/user.php?op=userinfo&uname=wilky
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I believe the 7100ES will pass 1080P. Howver, it will not decode the latest surround sound formats. Go to this site for any Sony questions.
    http://www.agoraquest.com/user.php?op=userinfo&uname=wilky

    yep, Im a member there already, and I can promise you mine wouldnt pass it. Supposedly there was a possible way to do a board exchange in order to make it work, however that was only offered in Europe. Its bit too late anyway, I'm so content with my SC07 purchase I wont even look back. The new audio codecs sound freaking amazing decoded on the Elite.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2008
    Sherardp wrote: »
    yep, Im a member there already, and I can promise you mine wouldnt pass it. Supposedly there was a possible way to do a board exchange in order to make it work, however that was only offered in Europe. Its bit too late anyway, I'm so content with my SC07 purchase I wont even look back. The new audio codecs sound freaking amazing decoded on the Elite.


    I bet the new Pioneers are great.

    I feel Sony made a major mistake by dropping the digital amp design. With the 7100ES they fixed the problems thay had with the X000ES line of digital amps. As a 3000ES and 5000ES owner I am well aware of those isues. When I received my 7100ES I was impressed with the build quality and performance of it. It ran 4 LSi15s and an LSiC without any issues.

    Currently, I am using it as a pre-amp connected to a Sunfire TGA-5400, and it works great. I will not be going to Blu-Ray for at least another year since the 7100ES used with a 9100ES DVD/SACD player connected via Ilink has both an excellent picture and sound.

    Hopefully by then there will be a large number of pre-amps from all the manufacturers that handle all the latest video and souind standards.
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    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited October 2008
    Dan and Sherardp,
    Thanks for the help. I understand that the older models can be had at the same price but I'm planning to look for a dealer that sell both Polk and Pioneer. That way I'm hoping I can get a good price as a package deal.

    I've been out of the HT game for a long time and I'm just starting to catch up now. Still learning about DD HD and stuff. I'm very excited and hope to have the system complete by late Dec. I noticed that the prices for great quality receivers these days just keep going down. I remember a time when the cheapest Elite receivers were over 1k.

    Oh yeah, I'm still wondering if the system would be able to pull off reference level spl? I'm asking this because it seems the OWM3 are very small. I think they only use 4.5" woofers.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    ^ Organ set all your speakers to small in your receiver, get the biggest baddest sub you can afford, SVS/Epik/Ed are a few common ones on the board and you'll be perfectly ok with reference level material. Depending on how you calibrate, reference is pretty darn loud. But in any event, you'll be fine.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited October 2008
    Sherardp,
    Thanks again. I was planning to get new subs for the 2ch set up but decided to get a HT instead. I will be using my PSW650. I'm currently using the 2ch system right now for HT. The psw650 is pretty bad ****. I'm sure it's not as powerful as the others you mentioned, but I feel it is sufficient for now (until the next upgrade bug bites).
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  • Berty
    Berty Posts: 23
    edited October 2008
    Bought the 01 two weeks ago and this is a major upgrade over my Yamaha 1400. My setup sound great with this amp, way better than the Yam.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    Berty wrote: »
    Bought the 01 two weeks ago and this is a major upgrade over my Yamaha 1400. My setup sound great with this amp, way better than the Yam.

    Pictures or it didnt happen. Congrats on your purchase.
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  • MLZ
    MLZ Posts: 214
    edited October 2008
    For the simple two-channel world what do you'all think of the Pioneer Elite SX-A6-J for a home office setup (RTi8's, a CD and USB DAC from my PC for input). A basic stereo without any need for a second set of speakers or more inputs.

    I have seen only one professional review which is at Playback Mag at http://magazine.playbackmag.net/playback/200808/?pg=225
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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,577
    edited October 2008
    Sherardp wrote: »
    Pictures or it didnt happen. Congrats on your purchase.

    Funny, don't think I've seen pics of your new Elite yet! Gotta give a brother a hard time.:D

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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    Grimster74 wrote: »
    Funny, don't think I've seen pics of your new Elite yet! Gotta give a brother a hard time.:D

    Rob

    The SC-07

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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,325
    edited October 2008
    organ wrote: »
    Dan and Sherardp,
    Thanks for the help. I understand that the older models can be had at the same price but I'm planning to look for a dealer that sell both Polk and Pioneer. That way I'm hoping I can get a good price as a package deal.

    I've been out of the HT game for a long time and I'm just starting to catch up now. Still learning about DD HD and stuff. I'm very excited and hope to have the system complete by late Dec. I noticed that the prices for great quality receivers these days just keep going down. I remember a time when the cheapest Elite receivers were over 1k.

    Oh yeah, I'm still wondering if the system would be able to pull off reference level spl? I'm asking this because it seems the OWM3 are very small. I think they only use 4.5" woofers.
    Check out Tweeter if you live near one. they carry both and you can listen before you buy.

    Good luck with your purchase. Let me know how you make out.

    Dan
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,325
    edited October 2008
    Sherardp wrote: »
    The SC-07

    DSC00528.jpg
    The sc-07 is badass. How do you like it? What is your system config?. Talk to me brother.

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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    I agree this thing is awesome, I like it. I ran the MCACC then went in and tweaked everything with the SPL meter. The sound is mind blowing. I think its an excellent piece for the price. System config is in my sig line, but Im running a full Rti setup(12s, Csi5, Fxi3s, 4s and dual SVS PB12/plus 2 subs) I have to admit it is amazing, my Sony 7100ES performed very well, however the Elite sounds better. More dynamic and clear. Even with music, it makes you feel like youre in a live performance. Very happy.
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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited October 2008
    Are you still using the external amps I see in your picture? if yes, did you try the sc-07 without the external amps?
    Current HT setup
    Mains: B&W 804s
    Center: Polk CSi5
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
    Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
    Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
    TV: Sony KDS60A2020
    DBP: Sony DBP-S350
    CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
    Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
    speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited October 2008
    mantis wrote: »
    Check out Tweeter if you live near one. they carry both and you can listen before you buy.

    Good luck with your purchase. Let me know how you make out.

    Dan

    Thanks Dan. No Tweeter here in Canada. I found a dealer downtown selling the 01 for $799 CDN (that's the retail I believe). So I'm still gonna try to bargain. But problem is, they don't sell Polk. I'm gonna search for a dealer that sell both Polk and Pioneer.

    I'll let you know how it goes when I get the system up and running. I'll post a thread here w/pics. I should have the money to get them by late Dec.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    olilugo wrote: »
    Are you still using the external amps I see in your picture? if yes, did you try the sc-07 without the external amps?

    When I initially installed the SC-07 I ran my setup off of it shortly just to see what it sound like. And I have zero doubts that the Pio could handle the load. However since I do have the D-Sonic IceAmps and the Outlaw Monos, I just went ahead stuck with them in my setup, if that makes since. The D-Sonic 1000S I have gives me 525 watts x2 to the Rti12s, the Elite cant give me that.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,325
    edited October 2008
    organ wrote: »
    Thanks Dan. No Tweeter here in Canada. I found a dealer downtown selling the 01 for $799 CDN (that's the retail I believe). So I'm still gonna try to bargain. But problem is, they don't sell Polk. I'm gonna search for a dealer that sell both Polk and Pioneer.

    I'll let you know how it goes when I get the system up and running. I'll post a thread here w/pics. I should have the money to get them by late Dec.
    Shame. But if you want to take my word on it, Rt series and Elite go together extremely well. I really like the sound of every job I do with this combo. The inwalls smoke man, with Elite receivers they really shine.

    Dan
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