Quick HDMI cable comparison

olilugo
olilugo Posts: 405
edited October 2008 in Electronics
Hey all,
I am not a big audio or video expert, and I don't really believe in the bla bla… so here is goes.

I purchased a Monoprise HDMI cable:
HDMI 1.3a Category 2 Certified Silver-Plated Copper CL2 Rated (For In-Wall Installation) Cable (24AWG) - 10ft (Gold Plated Connectors).
Here is the link:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024004&p_id=3659&seq=1&format=2


I also purchase an HDMI cable made by Panasonic.
Panasonic RP-CDHG30 High Speed HDMI Cable - 9.8ft (White)
Here is the link:
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RP-CDHG30-High-Speed-Cable/dp/B000G62F88/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I25EZ468Z3SUKY&colid=2FPULQ8TGGCX1


The Monoprise is $23.85
The Panasonic is $33.79

A quick comparison, the Monoprise looks and feels very well made, is almost twice as thick as the Panasonic. The panasonic look like a regular cable
They both supposed to be 1.3a capable
Both cables are category 2, and support Bandwidth: up to 340 Mhz
The Panasonic cable has three other specs which the Monoprise did not mentioned
1. The Panasonic cable is rated high speed
2. The Panasonic cable supports 10.2Gbps
3. The Panasonic supports 8-16bit 1080p for video and sound.

The test I performed is a very simple one, I put connected an upscale dvd player and a TV that support 1080i. I did not test the sound capabilities because I don’t own a receiver that has HDMI.
The main differences in video are:
The Panasonic has a bit more resolution in the colors (colors look brighter), when there is movement in the movie the Monoprise was not able to keep up, the Monoprise gives blurred action, with the panasonic the movement is generated as it supposed to be and you get not fuzzines or blurr. I also notice the Monoprise gives a more grainy picture than the Panasonic.


Well that is it I hope this is helpful to anyone looking for an hdmi cable.
Current HT setup
Mains: B&W 804s
Center: Polk CSi5
Surround: Polk FXi3
Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
TV: Sony KDS60A2020
DBP: Sony DBP-S350
CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited October 2008
    Sounds like the Panny is worth the extra coin. Thanks.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    When it comes to HDMI cables its just 1's and 0's, cable quaily may have a difference, but sound/video should be the same all day. Nice write up though.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,807
    edited October 2008
    HDMI cable errors show up as dropouts and sparklies, not blurring of motion or color and brightness differences.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2008
    Like that compared to a BlueJean Cable HDMI nicely built but never compared one the the other.

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    RT800i's Rears
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Like that compared to a BlueJean Cable HDMI nicely built but never compared one the the other.

    I use Bluejean HDMI BJC Belden Series-1 Bonded-Pair Cable, and I have to admit I do like the build quality of them. And you dont spend a fortune for them either.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2008
    Sherardp wrote: »
    I use Bluejean HDMI BJC Belden Series-1 Bonded-Pair Cable, and I have to admit I do like the build quality of them. And you dont spend a fortune for them either.


    Yes the same cable I use, I very pleased with the HDMI cable. They also make a very nice S-Video cable if anyone have as the need.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Yes the same cable I use, I very pleased with the HDMI cable. They also make a very nice S-Video cable if anyone have as the need.

    Yep, I run a full stack to the projector, Though I dont connect them all, they are all there if needed, Svideo, component, 2x HDMI. Agreed, very nice quality cables.
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  • John K.
    John K. Posts: 822
    edited October 2008
    Olilugo, none of the effects that you report can be due to the HDMI cable. If an HDMI cable has signal losses too high for length of the run involved this will appear as electronic noise or sparkles in the picture, not the effects that you mention. For a short 10' run such as was involved in your case a 24ga cable is more than sufficient and even a 28ga cable would work well. Your review undoubtedly was well-intentioned, but it's misleading to possible future purchasers.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,778
    edited October 2008
    John K. wrote: »
    Your review undoubtedly was well-intentioned, but it's misleading to possible future purchasers.

    There's nothing misleading about his first hand experience. What's misleading is your 2 cents as you have no experience with the cables he used.

    The Panasonic has a bit more resolution in the colors (colors look brighter), when there is movement in the movie the Monoprise was not able to keep up, the Monoprise gives blurred action, with the panasonic the movement is generated as it supposed to be and you get not fuzzines or blurr. I also notice the Monoprise gives a more grainy picture than the Panasonic.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited October 2008
    thanks for your review its always shows well when someone reports what they actually heard or saw with any audio gear or wire, nothing like emperical data.

    dont take the self-crowned know it alls here to seriously, they have an inner need to expound their spin and shout it from a mountain top.

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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited October 2008
    Thanks all,
    My intention was not to misslead anyone to purchase one hdmi cable over the other.
    It was simple comparison between two cables I happend to purchase. I think these two cables are affordable enough that their price difference is amost not a point since I had to pay shipping for the one I bought from monoprise.
    I was just curious about the monoprise cable since everyone gives good feedback about their product.

    As I stated in my original thread (at least I think I did), I am not an authority on sound nor video, nor did I perform a scientific test on both cables. I really just plug them in and I used the same chapter in the movie to compare both cables.

    I don't claim to know why I saw bluriness or why one of the cables seam to have sharper (better greens, better blues, … you get the point) colors.
    I will not specualte, since I don’t know what is making it happen.
    Current HT setup
    Mains: B&W 804s
    Center: Polk CSi5
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
    Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
    Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
    TV: Sony KDS60A2020
    DBP: Sony DBP-S350
    CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
    Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
    speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2008
    Well I feel you did a fine job in comparing what you seen, and what was used. It was to me you seen the difference of the construction of the two cables that is all.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2008
    Again, excellent review.
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  • stebesplace
    stebesplace Posts: 57
    edited October 2008
    That's fascinating. It might be interesting to see if someone can buy say, 5 or 6 brands of HDMI cables (rated the same), and do a review themselves, plus allow a demo group to start for individual testing on your equipment. Then people can see the differences themselves and write about what equipment that had hooked up to everything.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,778
    edited October 2008
    I volunteer you. Please post the results when you are done.
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  • stebesplace
    stebesplace Posts: 57
    edited October 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    I volunteer you. Please post the results when you are done.

    HA, ohh brother I should have seen that one coming. If I fall into a few bucks to spend on cables I might just do that...
    Current Setup:
    :( Yamaha AX-450 Amplifier
    :) Yamaha YST-SW216 Sub
    :) Sony DVPNC800H/B CD/DVD Player
    :) Samsung LNT2653H LCD TV
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  • ALWALLER
    ALWALLER Posts: 40
    edited October 2008
    Would the results that OLILUGO reported be for his set-up only.
    People using different equipment and different setting might see something
    different on there system ?
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