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Mike Kozak
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Please bear with me as I am not an engineer. Why does the older vintage gear sound "better" than my new fangled HT setup? I had my Polk Monitor 7s connected to an Onkyo 7.1 surround receiver and decided to connect a newly purchased Vector Research receiver won from flea bay and see what it sounded like. There was more bass, and a fuller sound with the older gear(Vector). While I know it is not a high end receiver by far, it just sounds better to me, not thin and washed out like the Onkyo, which I had in Stereo mode.
Thanks for helping me out, I am learning much Obi Wans
Thanks for helping me out, I am learning much Obi Wans
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Probably the power supply. But I am just guessing.I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
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As MillerLiteScot has said; it is the power supply.
One of the most important parts of any receiver/amplifier/integrated amplifier is the power supply. Unfortunately it is also the most expensive. In the old days most every company used toroidal transformers; often massive one’s. The advantage to toroidal power transformers is that the nature of the circular design and construction method ensures proper alignment of the coil. This results in greater efficiency and reduced reluctance (magnetic resistance) thus less likelihood for the dreaded “hum” background noise. However the winding required to construct a Toroidal transformer is complex; and laborious (read expensive) so most mass market manufacturers today simply used cheap laminated steel core transformers instead.
The problem with laminated steel cores is that aside from being less efficient; the lamination itself can be subject to air pockets in the lamination process and this can further degrade performance. Most top end companies today still use toroidal transformers.
The other advantage to toroidal power supplies; especially larger one’s common in older gear is that they in turn would also use larger capacitors to store all of that energy – this helps to keep up with the dynamic peaks of music.
Basically you can summarize the older gear as generally being very overbuilt with fewer sacrifices made and better components being used; not to mention most were hand built so less chance for some of the errors you get with automation. Most mainstream stuff today is not built to the same standards and does not use nearly as high quality parts.
Believe it or not many mainstream receivers you are actually paying more for the various licensing agreements (Dolby; THX, HDMI,DTS) than what you are paying for in parts… -
Thanks, that makes sense to me. One more reason for going back to the "old" days vs stepping into the harsh bright light of modern times
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a lot of the old stereo gear was built like a tank..
that's why it's still around. do I think my 2yr old pre amp will still work in 30+ yrs and sound good? :eek:
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