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  • polktiger
    polktiger Posts: 556
    edited July 2008
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    nikolas812 wrote: »
    But when I got my first cable from signal I decided never to go back to BJC's. The quality and look and feel of the Signals was well worth the extra money to me.
    Nick

    I don't mean this to pick on you as I am far from an expert. But comments like the one you made above are to me at the core of the "great cable debate." I don't look at my cables. I keep them hidden. I don't tinker with the connections much unless I am swapping somthing out (uncommon for me). While I have been around audio a long time, I am not a big on expiramenting. (I am the same way with golf clubs - I am the problem with golf, not my clubs). It will be a while (if ever) before I A/B cables simply becuase I don't hear nearly as well as I used to, so I no longer pick up on subtle differences very well.

    You indicated that you pefer signals due to a physical differences over Blue Jeans. It was their appearance, not sound that appealed to you. Again, I am not condemning your decision, certainly make decisions based on anything that floats your boat. (I know I walk to the beat of my own drum.) But, in reading these numerous threads on cables it seems most people are looking for sound differences, not appearance differences and comments like yours seems to add to the confusion. I think simply looking at the pictures of the BLC and signals will show that the signals are far more attractive. (But let's be honest, Monster can at least make a pretty cable.)
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited July 2008
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    Build quality can certainly be a factor. In addition to Signal Cable ICs having a sound quality I prefer over BJC, they are better built IMO. Even if they sounded similar, there is "value" to the build quality of an item. Whether it is aesthetics or feel or durability...it does matter to some.
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  • polktiger
    polktiger Posts: 556
    edited July 2008
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    shack wrote: »
    Build quality can certainly be a factor. In addition to Signal Cable ICs having a sound quality I prefer over BJC, they are better built IMO. Even if they sounded similar, there is "value" to the build quality of an item. Whether it is aesthetics or feel or durability...it does matter to some.

    Sure, I will agree build quality can certinaly be what pushes one cable over another. But I would, I think prefacing a recomendation would be appropriate...for example "BJC and Signals sound similar to me, but I prefer the build quality of the Signal. So, I went Signal."

    I don't know, I just think a little more insight like that might cut down on some of the bickering about whether people actually hear a difference between cables.

    If cables are important to someone, I still think the best way is blind folded, have your friend swap cables for you and let your ears decide. As I said before, Metallica took care of my decision many years ago. So I really have no dog in the fight.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2008
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    IMO, another testimony how Signal has superior quality is how it they fit nice and snug. Unlike BJC, which feels loose on most of my connections.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
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    I happen to love that looser fit, since I won't have to fight with it to get it on or off on the few occaisions that I need to do so.

    Nor will it spontaneously fall off. It goes on & stays on until I remove it.

    Both BJC & Signal are USA made & sold cables that will get the job done. One costs more than the other because it's got a fancy cover. If it is worth it to you to pay the price for that, have at it. If not, BJC's work just as well for less.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2008
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    cfrizz wrote: »
    Nor will it spontaneously fall off. It goes on & stays on until I remove it.
    You're not playing your music loud enough. :D
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
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    You're damn right I'm not. I want to preserve my hearing into my old age without benefit of a hearing aid!:D

    But that doesn't mean I don't rock out!!!!:p:D
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
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    alright, I could not delay any longer. I ordered 7 Analog II's from Signal Cable. It is there color-coded HT set. I ordered them at a three-foot length, just in case. Unfortunately, due to the holiday weekend and the amount of current orders, my cables will not be shipped out until tuesday of next week, and will not arrive until late next week.

    Thank you all for your comments regarding these cables and for helping me make a decision. I am sure the Signal cables will treat me well, and I will probably never know the difference since I have no plans of switching them out. Although I will test them against some crappy cables that came with old gear :)
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited July 2008
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    polktiger wrote: »
    I don't mean this to pick on you as I am far from an expert. But comments like the one you made above are to me at the core of the "great cable debate." I don't look at my cables. I keep them hidden. I don't tinker with the connections much unless I am swapping somthing out (uncommon for me). While I have been around audio a long time, I am not a big on expiramenting. (I am the same way with golf clubs - I am the problem with golf, not my clubs). It will be a while (if ever) before I A/B cables simply becuase I don't hear nearly as well as I used to, so I no longer pick up on subtle differences very well.

    You indicated that you pefer signals due to a physical differences over Blue Jeans. It was their appearance, not sound that appealed to you. Again, I am not condemning your decision, certainly make decisions based on anything that floats your boat. (I know I walk to the beat of my own drum.) But, in reading these numerous threads on cables it seems most people are looking for sound differences, not appearance differences and comments like yours seems to add to the confusion. I think simply looking at the pictures of the BLC and signals will show that the signals are far more attractive. (But let's be honest, Monster can at least make a pretty cable.)




    I am sorry you didn't like my post. I don't know why it matters to you. It had nothing to do with you.

    I simply wrote a short statement telling the Original Poster that he will probably like his new cables. At least thats the way I wanted it to sound.

    I could have went on and on about why the signals were better but I didn't feel it was needed.

    If it was a review I was writing it would have been a different story. But it wasn't. So I didn't.

    If you would like to read one of my reviews on the BJC's VS Audioquest. Please feel free to.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63595

    Maybe you'll be a little happier with the information given.

    Cheers:)

    Nick
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
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    cokewithvanilla wrote: »
    alright, I could not delay any longer. I ordered 7 Analog II's from Signal Cable. It is there color-coded HT set. I ordered them at a three-foot length, just in case. Unfortunately, due to the holiday weekend and the amount of current orders, my cables will not be shipped out until tuesday of next week, and will not arrive until late next week.

    Thank you all for your comments regarding these cables and for helping me make a decision. I am sure the Signal cables will treat me well, and I will probably never know the difference since I have no plans of switching them out. Although I will test them against some crappy cables that came with old gear :)

    Did you happen to mention you were a club polk member? I think there is a 5% discount for that. Not alot, but in the end, you can spend it as easily as they can....

    Enjoy the new cables,

    Michael
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    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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