Got an e-mail from Outlaw with some basic info on their new Pre-Pro.

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McLoki
McLoki Posts: 5,231
edited June 2008 in Electronics
I got the following e-mail from outlaw. It mentions the price change on their 990 as well as when their new pre-pro will be out. (using TI chips) Can't wait to get an ear on this one....
Major Announcement from the Outlaws!

Dear McLoki:


As summer approaches and temperatures rise, the Outlaws have been hard at work to cool things off with lower prices on our surround processors. Think of this as a little price relief while everything else is heating up.



Model 990 and Model 970 Price Reductions


Although prices are going up across the broad spectrum of consumer goods we have now received our final shipments of both the Model 990 and the Model 970, and we've been able to negotiate price reductions with our suppliers.


Effective immediately, we are reducing the price of the Model 990 to $699, a $200 savings off the current price. When this award winning processor entered the market it received rave reviews and numerous Editors' Choice Awards at a value price of just $1,100. Now, as we continue development of its replacement, the Model 990 will remain an unparalleled bargain at $699.

At the same time, we're reducing the price of the Model 970 by $50, to an incredible $549. With these new low prices, there is simply nothing else in the market that can even come close.

Also please remember that ALL original owners of either a Model 990 or a Model 970, regardless of when their processors were purchased, will be entitled to a $200 discount off the price of any new surround processor for 6 months after the new models begin shipping.

The Next Generation Outlaw Processor

As many of you know, delays in the delivery of key DSP chips from Cirrus Logic have slowed development of products not only from the Outlaws, but also for many other companies as well. Because of this situation, we've changed the product road map for our newest flagship processor. We are now well along the path for a new surround processor that is based on dual Texas Instruments DSP chips, along with other key high-end components. We estimate shipments of this new processor to begin late this fall or in early winter.

By switching hardware platforms, we have given the new product the robust computing power required to include a revolutionary new technology. When it is available, we expect the Model 990's replacement to retail for at least $1,400, twice the new price for the Model 990.

When you add all of this up: a significant price reduction on the Model 990 and Model 970, the $200 discount on our new processor later this year and the traditionally high resale value of Outlaw components, there has never been a better time to buy an Outlaw surround processor!

Price Increases On The RR2150 and Model 2200 Starting July 1st

Although we've been able to reduce prices on our processors, we've unfortunately had major cost increases from our factories on the RR2150 RetroReceiver and the Model 2200 Amplifier. Therefore, we want to give you some advance notice that effective July 1st, we will raise the price of the RR2150 by $50, to $699. The price of the Model 2200 Amplifier will be increased to $349. If you've been on the fence about either of these models, climb down now and place your order today!

As things heat up for another Red Hot Outlaw Summer, now is the time to take advantage of this great new pricing on processors or grab an RR2150 or Model 2200 before the prices go up. After all, no matter what the season, "The best values in home theater are just a mouse-click away"™.

Don't forget, you can always use your Outlaw GECAF card and take advantage of twelve months with no payments and no interest.*

Regards,

The Outlaws
Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited June 2008
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    $699 for the current 990 pre amp is a killer deal. but a lot of people aren't buying them because they don't have HDMI. sad really that because of the people won't buy a decent budget 7.1 true pre amp.

    I too want to know more and see some pics and stats on the new 990 pre amp from the Outlaws. :)
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited June 2008
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    When I ordered my M2200's this week, I asked about possible firmware update for Dolby & DTS HD, and all the lady would say, was that they were coming with new pre's this fall.
    So, I take that as no, no updates for the current 990/970's.
    Me personally, I could care less about hdmi, but I would like whatever pre I buy to be backward compatible for the newest audio formats. My fear, is that Clapton's next 'Crossroad' dvd will be and HD audio format. I know I still have to upgrade the dvdp, but, no sense in upgrading 2x in 1 year.
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited June 2008
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    Dolby and DTS HD are to bandwith intesive to travel over a standard optical or coax connection. If the player does not support HDMi - No use adding the ability to decode those formats. (no way to get the audio stream into the preamp)

    If you use the 7.1 inputs, you have already decoded the signal in the player and sent it as analog to the 990. (once again, could not decode in the 990 if you wanted to)

    For what you want - you have to have HDMi and that is in their new pre coming out this fall.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited June 2008
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    Let me get this straight. The HD formats will ONLY work via hdmi? or can I also use 8 ch. analogs out? I don't have a 990 now, I just didn't want to buy the 990 now, and then have to buy another one next year.
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited June 2008
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    OK - we are talking sound here, not picture.

    My understanding is that a raw signal (undecoded) can only be passed via HDMi. If you let the player decode the signal into DD+, DTS Master, etc. it can do so and send the signal out to each channel via analog outs.

    If you are using the analog ins on your Pre/Pro, there is no need for your pre/pro to be able to decode HD audio since it will have already been decoded. (that is how your source knew what to send on each analog channel)

    If you are using optical or coax - it does not support the bandwith to support HD-Audio. (to much data through to small a pipe)

    Make sense?
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited June 2008
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    LOL! Can I play HD audio formats via a pre/ avr that has 8 channel inputs?
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited June 2008
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    Yes, If your player has 5.1 outputs. You can have your player decode the signal and pass it out the 5.1 analog outputs on the player to the 5.1 inputs on your pre / AVR.

    I am not aware of any players that currently output 7.1.....

    Michael

    BTW - this is one of the few shorcomings of the PS3. It does not have 5.1 analog outputs, only optical (no HD-audio there) or HDMi.
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited June 2008
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    i was just flipping thru crutchfield catalogue

    samsung bd-up5000 and denon dvd-3800 has 7.1 analog output
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
  • zx_toth
    zx_toth Posts: 417
    edited June 2008
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    SlowcarIX wrote: »
    i was just flipping thru crutchfield catalogue

    samsung bd-up5000 and denon dvd-3800 has 7.1 analog output

    Yes, those two can. Ive been drooling over the Denon 3800 Bluray player. A premium price for sure but the SQ is supposed to be awesome through the analog outs with audio DAC at each output channel, as well with the Realta chip it cleans up Standard Def DVDs beautifully .... and since I still watch a lot of SD DVDs (TV series on DVD, i.e. Star Trek series, Sopranos, etc) I would use that superior upconversion for at least 2-4 more years as my bluray library grew.

    I may pull the trigger on that piece early next year for bluray, SD DVD, and as my primary CD player ... but I need to still recover from my purchasing a LSiC and 5 channel rotel amp .... the FEVER continues! :-) Of course by early next year the second gen Denon bluray players may come out with profile 2 (which Im not that interested in) but would be nice.

    Zsolt