What amp would sound better with the LSi speakers.

BLACKHAMMERJAMM
BLACKHAMMERJAMM Posts: 69
edited November 2009 in Electronics
What amp would sound better with the LSi speakers.

LSi 15 fronts LSi C - LSi 9 surrounds - LSi 15 rears
Sony KDL-52XBR4
Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P
NAD T975
LSIi15's front
LSIiC center
LSIiFX's surround
LSIi15's rear
PSW1000
Sony BDPS2000ES
2nd system
Sony STRDA5300ES
Sony PS3
LSi9's front
Klipsch sub
under construction
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited June 2008
    What's your price range?
    Jake
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  • BLACKHAMMERJAMM
    BLACKHAMMERJAMM Posts: 69
    edited June 2008
    zingo wrote: »
    What's your price range?

    $2000-$2500
    Sony KDL-52XBR4
    Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P
    NAD T975
    LSIi15's front
    LSIiC center
    LSIiFX's surround
    LSIi15's rear
    PSW1000
    Sony BDPS2000ES
    2nd system
    Sony STRDA5300ES
    Sony PS3
    LSi9's front
    Klipsch sub
    under construction
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited June 2008
    Using 15's for rears? LUNACY!!
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited June 2008
    check them out

    www.d-sonic.net

    MAGNUM 1250-7
    3 X 250W / 8Ω 3 front channels
    4 x 125W / 8Ω side and rear channels
    18”W x 7”H x 13”D
    Weight: 43 lbs
    Price: $2575

    power doubles @4ohm
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited June 2008
    For that kind of coin on an amp, I would go used and you could get pretty high end.

    Cinnova, Cinepro, Sunfire all come to mind. (the sunfires are a great deal right now new)

    If I were to pick just from the amps you mentioned, I would with Rotel as I think it integrates better with the LSi's, but that is just my opinion. They are both good manufacturers and the sound you like is rather personal.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited June 2008
    hockeyboy wrote: »
    Using 15's for rears? LUNACY!!

    I heard the 15's used as rears at the last Chicago Polkfest and thought it sounded pretty good actually. :)

    You can ask MikeC78 about it and I am sure he would have an opinion.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited June 2008
    +1. I just picked up another Sunfire TGA5200 NIB for just over a grand. I offered a best price to DMC Electronics https://dmc-electronics.com/Default.htm (no affil) and they took it. You could get a 7400 pushing 800 WPC into those LSi's for that dough.
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited June 2008
    Theres more than a few of us that run the 15s as rears.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited June 2008
    I have owned Rotel and liked it. I agree with others that given your budget I would look for a better amp. I own a Proceed AMP5 for my HT and it was under your budget. Good luck.
    Michael ;)
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited June 2008
    Monster Jam wrote: »
    Theres more than a few of us that run the 15s as rears.

    It sounds like overkill to me but I am sure they handle the light workload great. Plus they will probably last forever! :D
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2008
    It's not overkill, it's nice to be surrounded in bass. My mains have 15" woofers, rears have 2 8" woofers, and I still use a sub. It also helps minimize room nodes.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • BLACKHAMMERJAMM
    BLACKHAMMERJAMM Posts: 69
    edited June 2008
    janmike wrote: »
    I have owned Rotel and liked it. I agree with others that given your budget I would look for a better amp. I own a Proceed AMP5 for my HT and it was under your budget. Good luck.

    I haven't had a chance to listen to the Rotel LSi match up, but I was told that the NAD T975 was more "musical" than the Rotel. Could you describe the Rotel's sound.

    Aloha
    Sony KDL-52XBR4
    Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P
    NAD T975
    LSIi15's front
    LSIiC center
    LSIiFX's surround
    LSIi15's rear
    PSW1000
    Sony BDPS2000ES
    2nd system
    Sony STRDA5300ES
    Sony PS3
    LSi9's front
    Klipsch sub
    under construction
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited June 2008
    a tower speaker for rears is overkill.. yeah i'm sure it sounds good.. the only time I would use towers that matched my fronts would be for DVD-Audio or SACD. otherwise it's not needed.

    towers can't be mounted high enough for home theater to give you that high level surround sound needed for home theater. that's why it's recommended the rears be placed two or three feet above your head.

    enjoy your set up. it's killer i'm sure..
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  • BLACKHAMMERJAMM
    BLACKHAMMERJAMM Posts: 69
    edited June 2008
    danger boy wrote: »
    a tower speaker for rears is overkill.. yeah i'm sure it sounds good.. the only time I would use towers that matched my fronts would be for DVD-Audio or SACD. otherwise it's not needed.

    towers can't be mounted high enough for home theater to give you that high level surround sound needed for home theater. that's why it's recommended the rears be placed two or three feet above your head.

    enjoy your set up. it's killer I'm sure..


    Thanks, I'm thinking that Blu-Ray Audio/Music will be the next thing... Also they look good.
    Sony KDL-52XBR4
    Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P
    NAD T975
    LSIi15's front
    LSIiC center
    LSIiFX's surround
    LSIi15's rear
    PSW1000
    Sony BDPS2000ES
    2nd system
    Sony STRDA5300ES
    Sony PS3
    LSi9's front
    Klipsch sub
    under construction
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,250
    edited June 2008
    hockeyboy wrote: »
    Using 15's for rears? LUNACY!!

    I upgraded my LSi7 rears to LSi15s, and it made a big improvement. The sound is more precise and cohesive, and the bass is a big improvement. Additionally, I like to play CDs in the multi-stereo mode, and using the 15s really makes the music sound better.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited June 2008
    In my case, it was buy the 15s or buy the FX/7/9 PLUS a stand (can't wall mount them due to irregular room dimensions). The stands push the bundle into 15s price territory. Seemed like a no-brainer call to me.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • BLACKHAMMERJAMM
    BLACKHAMMERJAMM Posts: 69
    edited June 2008
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I upgraded my LSi7 rears to LSi15s, and it made a big improvement. The sound is more precise and cohesive, and the bass is a big improvement. Additionally, I like to play CDs in the multi-stereo mode, and using the 15s really makes the music sound better.


    multi-stereo mode BINGO...
    Sony KDL-52XBR4
    Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P
    NAD T975
    LSIi15's front
    LSIiC center
    LSIiFX's surround
    LSIi15's rear
    PSW1000
    Sony BDPS2000ES
    2nd system
    Sony STRDA5300ES
    Sony PS3
    LSi9's front
    Klipsch sub
    under construction
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,997
    edited June 2008
    multi-stereo mode

    Amateurs
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2008
    Multi-Stereo Mode=Cacophony.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • msk_3254
    msk_3254 Posts: 3
    edited June 2008
    Go with Perraux amp if you can pull together the coin.

    Specifically this one:
    http://www.perreaux.com/product.php?idp=45
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  • msk_3254
    msk_3254 Posts: 3
    edited June 2008
    BLACKHAMMERJAMM wrote: »
    What amp would sound better with the LSi speakers.

    LSi 15 fronts LSi C - LSi 9 surrounds - LSi 15 rears

    Go with Perraux amp if you can pull together the coin.

    Specifically this one:
    http://www.perreaux.com/product.php?idp=45
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  • BLACKHAMMERJAMM
    BLACKHAMMERJAMM Posts: 69
    edited June 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Amateurs

    Amateur, that is what I am. Its like being a kid again and fully enjoying it.

    Aloha
    Sony KDL-52XBR4
    Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P
    NAD T975
    LSIi15's front
    LSIiC center
    LSIiFX's surround
    LSIi15's rear
    PSW1000
    Sony BDPS2000ES
    2nd system
    Sony STRDA5300ES
    Sony PS3
    LSi9's front
    Klipsch sub
    under construction
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  • BLACKHAMMERJAMM
    BLACKHAMMERJAMM Posts: 69
    edited June 2008
    F1nut, don't you think that Hamilton's shunt would have sounded good with 15's in the back...
    Sony KDL-52XBR4
    Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P
    NAD T975
    LSIi15's front
    LSIiC center
    LSIiFX's surround
    LSIi15's rear
    PSW1000
    Sony BDPS2000ES
    2nd system
    Sony STRDA5300ES
    Sony PS3
    LSi9's front
    Klipsch sub
    under construction
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited June 2008
    danger boy wrote: »
    a tower speaker for rears is overkill.. yeah i'm sure it sounds good.. the only time I would use towers that matched my fronts would be for DVD-Audio or SACD. otherwise it's not needed.

    towers can't be mounted high enough for home theater to give you that high level surround sound needed for home theater. that's why it's recommended the rears be placed two or three feet above your head.

    enjoy your set up. it's killer i'm sure..

    I agree that tower speakers can be overkill for surrounds.

    However, it came down to space and no where to mount(FX's) surrounds in my room setting. I also have little rugrats running around, so speaker stands for me were not an option either. From my listening position, I can't really complain on how the 15's perform. If I really wanted to raise the 15's, I could always build a box so they sit higher, but I have no real issues at the height they are at stock.

    BTW, I also got a killer deal on the extra set of 15's, so for me it was a "No-Brainer".
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,250
    edited June 2008
    Face wrote: »
    Multi-Stereo Mode=Cacophony.

    It is amazing how great multi-stereo works, at least with the Sony 7100ES used as a pre-amp. It is as if the CDs were actually recorded in 4 channel sound. I primarily listen to classical now, and just cannot believe how much better it sounds when all 4 speakers are in use.

    Of course, Luddites always have the option of just using 2 channel.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • goingganzo
    goingganzo Posts: 2,793
    edited June 2008
    olny thing i use all channel stereo for is if i want to rock out dance club style.
    for amps i am liiking at all used are
    parasound halo a51 with a21 cost used $3750 250 wats per channel at 8 ohm
    rotel RMB-1095 with RB-1080 $1900 200 watsper channel @8 ohms
    Anthem Statement P5 with Anthem Statement P2 $4435 325 wats per channel @8 ohms
    Anthem Statement A5 $2000 225 wats per channel 8 ohms
    Anthem MCA 50 with Anthem MCA 20 $2149 225 wats per channel 8 ohms
    Sunfire Tga 7200 $1489 200 wats per channel 8 ohms
    Sunfire tga 7400 $3500 400 wats per channel 8 ohms
    all amps have ballanced inputs
    all priceses are form audiogon on curent listed equipment
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  • zx_toth
    zx_toth Posts: 417
    edited June 2008
    I use a Rotel 1080 2 channel amp to power my Lsi 25s and a 5 channel Rotel 1085 to run my LSiC and future surround upgrades .... it all sounds great to me! I will be doing a review of the 1085 this weekend (long overdue). I havent owned any other amps though to compare them but for my Home Theater (80%) and music (20%) needs they work very well for the purpose ....

    Zsolt
    My Home Theater Rig
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  • skykeys
    skykeys Posts: 102
    edited June 2008
    BlueFox wrote: »
    It is amazing how great multi-stereo works, at least with the Sony 7100ES used as a pre-amp. It is as if the CDs were actually recorded in 4 channel sound. I primarily listen to classical now, and just cannot believe how much better it sounds when all 4 speakers are in use.

    Of course, Luddites always have the option of just using 2 channel.

    :) I totally agree. I run regular CDs using the 5-channel effects setting on my Yamaha receiver. It opens up the sound a good deal. To me, most 2 channel mixes sound somewhat flat in comparison now. When I recently purchased and played some SACD discs, I find that I don't need the effect turned on, (and in fact, I can't use effects for the 6-input setting anyway), but the 5-channel SACD mixes sound great. Billy Joel's 52nd Street and Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon sound tremendous.

    Regards.
    Speakers:
    . 5.2 surround config:
    . . . In-wall L & R Fronts and Center: Polk LC265i, LCi-RTS-C. In-ceiling L & R rears: Polk LC80i
    . . . Floor Subs: Polk DSWPro 500, Paradigm PDR-10
    . Zone B: very old pair of Polk M 5's
    . In Storage but still favored: Paradigm Monitors

    AVR:
    . Yamaha RX-V863

    Universal DVD:
    . Oppo DV-980H

    TV:
    . Sony Bravia XBR LCD 40" 720P (2005 vintage)
    . Comcast Cable, Motorola box
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,997
    edited June 2008
    BLACKHAMMERJAMM wrote: »
    F1nut, don't you think that Hamilton's shunt would have sounded good with 15's in the back...


    Why? All the sound came from in front just like from the musicians playing on the stage, in front of you.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • skykeys
    skykeys Posts: 102
    edited June 2008
    zx_toth wrote: »
    . . . I will be doing a review of the 1085 this weekend (long overdue). . . .

    Zsolt

    Zx-toth, what do you mean "you'll be reviewing it"? Is this an official review that will end up in a publication (or web site)? Where will we be able to find your review? I'm interested in reading it.

    Thank you.
    Speakers:
    . 5.2 surround config:
    . . . In-wall L & R Fronts and Center: Polk LC265i, LCi-RTS-C. In-ceiling L & R rears: Polk LC80i
    . . . Floor Subs: Polk DSWPro 500, Paradigm PDR-10
    . Zone B: very old pair of Polk M 5's
    . In Storage but still favored: Paradigm Monitors

    AVR:
    . Yamaha RX-V863

    Universal DVD:
    . Oppo DV-980H

    TV:
    . Sony Bravia XBR LCD 40" 720P (2005 vintage)
    . Comcast Cable, Motorola box
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