sunfire TGA 5200 for sale on audiogon

olilugo
olilugo Posts: 405
edited June 2008 in Electronics
Hi all,
I found this link on audiogon.
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1214182065

By looking at the rest of the posts this one is way to cheap and I am having a problem trying to decided.. you know if it sounds to good to be true ....

Anyone here knows about this company?
How would you go about buying from this person, should you use paypal or credit card so that you can hopefully get your money back if anythng goes wrong ~ no delivery...
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Current HT setup
Mains: B&W 804s
Center: Polk CSi5
Surround: Polk FXi3
Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
TV: Sony KDS60A2020
DBP: Sony DBP-S350
CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited May 2008
    Sunfire is having a factory authorized closeout on the existing models as the new models are shipping in June or July. They have been all over the net and yes, they do have warranty. I thought about buying a couple of those and selling them, too, as I work for a distributor that sells Sunfire. Hmm...
    Richard? Who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa? Or is it........................Spanky?.................................Sinner.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2008
    Looks like a legit company & they don't have any negative feedback & it is an excellent price! I'd go for it.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • skor
    skor Posts: 19
    edited May 2008
    DMC Electronics is a legit company and has very good customer service. I have purchased from them in the past and would have no problem recommending them to anyone...
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2008
    Welcome Skor!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • Gaara
    Gaara Posts: 2,415
    edited May 2008
    Even better: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-SUNFIRE-TGA-5200-TGA5200-THEATER-GRAND-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ270236613152QQihZ017QQcategoryZ14973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    $1099 for one w/ free shipping, not to shabby.
    The Basement HT
    PC Rig
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  • avphile
    avphile Posts: 38
    edited May 2008
    Hopefully it is just a typographic error. GTA instead of TGA on the Audiogon link. I have a Pioneer Elite vsx-84txsi rated at 140 watts per channel. Would I hear a difference going to 200 watts per channel? How does Sunfire compare against Outlaw, Parasound, Rotel, and Krell?
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2008
    Welcome AVphile. Yes you would hear a difference since your Pioneer isn't even coming close to actually putting out 140wpc.

    All of them, Sunfire included will sound great. All are quality products that you can't go wrong with. I love my Sunfire components.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • bondslex
    bondslex Posts: 109
    edited May 2008
    Went to my authorized local reseller and picked up a tga5200 in titanium to handle my lsi theater this am. I also bought black mamba II interconnects from aadvisor. It thus far is the best upgrade I've ever made. It sounds incredible. I've only listened to it for a couple of hours and I was astonished. I was previously using an Integra receiver. If you own lsi speakers, this amps sends 400 watts to each channel. Its a killer of a deal. I can't wait to crank up a movie.

    By the way, if you go to Sunfire's website, they list the resellers. I think the company on agon is one. Go to their website. Double check though!
    LSI 15
    LSI C
    LSI FX
    80 fx ls for atmos
    Velodyne SPL-10
    Marantz 7012
    Panasonic 9000
    JVC 420
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited May 2008
    IMO if you are in need of a receiver, that is a terrific deal on a fine piece of equipment. Find out if you still get the manufacturers warranty- my Sunfire is getting fixed on warranty at this very minute. I bought it online, but they still honored the warranty when I had some trouble with it.
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2008
    Congrats Bond! Isn't it amazing what a lot of power with tons in reserve can do????:D:D:D Enjoy!:)
    bondslex wrote: »
    Went to my authorized local reseller and picked up a tga5200 in titanium to handle my lsi theater this am. I also bought black mamba II interconnects from aadvisor. It thus far is the best upgrade I've ever made. It sounds incredible. I've only listened to it for a couple of hours and I was astonished. I was previously using an Integra receiver. If you own lsi speakers, this amps sends 400 watts to each channel. Its a killer of a deal. I can't wait to crank up a movie.

    By the way, if you go to Sunfire's website, they list the resellers. I think the company on agon is one. Go to their website. Double check though!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • bondslex
    bondslex Posts: 109
    edited May 2008
    It really does make a difference. I had read all the posts about the power. To be honest I didn't think it would make a huge difference but I was wrong. I should have done it sooner.

    Thanks everybody! Thanks hockeyboy!
    LSI 15
    LSI C
    LSI FX
    80 fx ls for atmos
    Velodyne SPL-10
    Marantz 7012
    Panasonic 9000
    JVC 420
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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited May 2008
    Thanks all for all your comments.
    I place the order this morning. Will see what happens.
    I will keep you all posted.
    Current HT setup
    Mains: B&W 804s
    Center: Polk CSi5
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
    Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
    Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
    TV: Sony KDS60A2020
    DBP: Sony DBP-S350
    CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
    Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
    speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited May 2008
    All this talk about wattage and LSis is getting me excited. I scored a pair of Lsi9s recently from Agon, have some LSi7s already, and will mate with some nice, new B&K components. Can't wait!
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • mwaarna
    mwaarna Posts: 280
    edited May 2008
    Whats the THD for this AMP?

    How would it compare to my older Outlaw Audio 750 amp?

    Outlaw Does 165@8ohms and 250@ohms..
    Vs
    200 @ 8 and 400 @ 4...
    Click here To see My system
    Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin
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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited May 2008
    Well,
    Here is an update, first let me thank everyone on this thread for the encouragement.
    Great News, I order my Sunfire TGA5200 Monday and it arrived yesterday.
    I am a proud father of my new amplifier :-)

    First impressions; the transaction was no big deal, I went to DMC Website and I just did an internet order. Within minutes I got a notice that my order was shipping the same day. I was able to use my credit card, and as it turned out I was not charge for shipping. Total cost 1299.00, great so far.
    The box looked like it survive a war, for a minute I was thinking I better record this on my camera just in case, it is not double box but as I look inside everything was pristine, and with a new smell, very important :-). Since this amp is no so heavy – one of the reasons I wanted an amp like this – I just don’t want to deal with 80lb plus of the average 5 channel amp like Rotel and BK.

    Well this amp is a 5 channel amp, I can use it for bi amp or biwire. I am only going to use strait 5 channels.
    Looking at the amp, I just had to sit back and think how simple looking 1300$ look like, there is just a very small switch in the front with an even smaller led, the switch makes the amp go into standby, only when it detects the audio signal and it comes to life. The LED changes from red to blue.

    The back of the amp is where everything is… First impressions, I like the layout of all the connects; it has the capability to connect XLR and RCA inputs. The speaker binding posts are old looking at they don’t have the new presence of the Rotel (RMB 1095), I also notice that the Rotel has a hold which you can use to put the speaker wire to make sure is nice an secure, the Sunfire is solid – no problem I might add spades to the ends of my speaker cables and problem solved. The AC cable was a surprise to me, all the AC cables I see for amps are 3 prongs, yet the Sunfire is a 3 (on the amp) to 2 (to the Surge protector) prong connector, however no even a whisper of hum. I hope this is the case for the future…

    As you probably guessed, you can not get a toy like this and not try to set it all up. I did, I have a 5.1 setup so this amp is what I was looking for. I am using signalcables analog II 6’ rca cables to connect my Pioneer VSX-812K pre-out to the amp done!, speakers connected to my amp done!. Ready for a movie…
    Right from the start I can say I like it, my reference volume which does not mean anything used to be -25 without amp, with amp is -32, the sound is very crisp and I feel that I can crank it up and it will give me more..
    At -32 reading the noise with my new SPL :-) and just pointing to the fronts and center one at the time the sound level was between 80 dB to 91dB , 91 being spikes… Not bad so far.
    I will comeback with a bit more detail as I let the amp and the new interconnects acclimates.
    All an all I am very happy and excited with my new toy.
    Current HT setup
    Mains: B&W 804s
    Center: Polk CSi5
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
    Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
    Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
    TV: Sony KDS60A2020
    DBP: Sony DBP-S350
    CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
    Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
    speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited May 2008
    I contacted the seller today and offered $1,050 for a silver, NIB 5200 shipped. This will be my 2nd Sunfire if they accept my offer. This purchase will upgrade my old HK amp which currently drives my secondary listening area (pool/poker room) but only pushes 80 wpc.

    My plan is to match this with 4 Vienna Acoustic Hayden Grands in that room which are another upgrade from some old JBL 2's I have mounted on the wall. I'll let you know how it turns out!
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited May 2008
    Hockeyboy, man good luck with your offer, you can get it you will raise the bar as to how to buy the smart way.
    I though it was a good deal as is that I just placed the oder without even thinking I could offer less since I was buying from a sunfire dealer. I was able to buy it for 1299 NIB shipped.
    They also have the the TPG-5 for 2000 and I have to say if it had more of today's technology would have bought it without blinking.
    Current HT setup
    Mains: B&W 804s
    Center: Polk CSi5
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
    Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
    Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
    TV: Sony KDS60A2020
    DBP: Sony DBP-S350
    CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
    Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
    speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited May 2008
    Hey mwaarna here are the specks for the sunfire amp.

    TGA-5200
    Power output
    200 watts continuous, per channel, into 8 ohms, at 1 kHz with no more than 0.5% T.H.D.
    Power at clipping, min:
    400 watts per channel into four ohms.
    Hum and Noise
    -115 dB, A-Weighted
    Maximum output current
    80 amperes peak to peak per channel
    Maximum output voltage
    40 Vrms
    Output impedance Front Left and Right channels
    Voltage source: Approx. zero ohms
    Current source: Approx. one ohm
    RCA Input impedance
    24 kΩ
    Input sensitivity for rated output
    Unbalanced: 1.3 Vrms
    Bal anced: 0.65 Vrms
    XLR Input impedance
    10 kΩ, each leg balanced to ground Female XLR
    Pin 1 is ground
    Pin 2 is positive (hot)
    Pin 3 is negative (cold)
    Damping Factor:
    150
    12 VDC Trigger Inputs
    Input voltage range 5 -18 VDC
    Impedance: approx 600 Ω (20 mA @ 12 V)
    Removable terminal block, and dual 1/8" mini jacks for daisy-chaining.
    Power Consumption
    45W At idle
    200W Typical (1/8th power)
    1800W Absolute Max (Fuse Limit)
    Dimensions and Weight
    17.0 inches wide
    5.9 inches high (including feet)
    16.7 inches deep (to tips of connectors)
    Weight 32 lbs
    Finish
    Brushed aluminum with black anodize or a light titanium finish.
    Current HT setup
    Mains: B&W 804s
    Center: Polk CSi5
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
    Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
    Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
    TV: Sony KDS60A2020
    DBP: Sony DBP-S350
    CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
    Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
    speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited May 2008
    My offer got declined so my instinct for always getting a better deal was unrewarded. I may end up paying 1299 because that is a good deal anyway. I am also considering the Emotiva since it's hard to justify spending much money in this room, but already have a Sunfire and love it.
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited May 2008
    I negotiated down to $1,150 delivered but had to take it in black. Looks like I will be the proud owner of another 5200!
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • brabus420
    brabus420 Posts: 38
    edited June 2008
    Nice score Hockeyboy. Did you get this from DMC?
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited June 2008
    Yep. Got it from the link above, to a link at the DMC site, to an ebay link by the same guy. It was originally listed as "buy it now" for $1299 and after I made a "best offer" for $1,050 which was declined, the seller made a "counteroffer" for $1150. SOLD! Thats a hell of a deal for NIB.
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited June 2008
    congratulation HockeyBoy. what are you going to get for receiver or pre/pro. have you found anything yet that complements the sunfire amp?
    Current HT setup
    Mains: B&W 804s
    Center: Polk CSi5
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
    Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
    Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
    TV: Sony KDS60A2020
    DBP: Sony DBP-S350
    CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
    Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
    speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,250
    edited June 2008
    olilugo wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I found this link on audiogon.
    http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1214182065

    FYI

    TO OUR VALUED CUSTOMERS:

    Sunfire does NOT AUTHORIZE ANY INTERNET SALES of its products.

    The WARRANTY on Sunfire products IS NOT VALID if the products were purchased over the internet, or from a non-authorized Sunfire dealer.


    http://www.sunfire.com/dealers.htm
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited June 2008
    I actually bought my Sunfire 7200 on the internet, and it broke down within the first year. I didn't even save the receipt. When I called Sunfire, they just asked for the serial number off of the back, and honored the warranty in full based on date of manufacture (although I did have to pay shipping one way). The good service is what compelled me to pick up a 5200 for my secondary room; at a great price from a seller recently reviewed in this thread.

    I will control both of these with my Marantz 8001 AVR who make terrific products Olilugo. The Marantz/Sunfire combo really take care of my LSi's and passive subs as well. Although I must admit with the Sunfire, and good quality AVR with pre-outs will likely do a good job.

    Here is the pre I want when it comes out!

    http://us.marantz.com/Products/2317.asp
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • bondslex
    bondslex Posts: 109
    edited June 2008
    FYI, BLUEFOX, DMC Electronics of Garden Grove, Ca. is listed on Sunfire's site as an authorized dealer of their products.
    LSI 15
    LSI C
    LSI FX
    80 fx ls for atmos
    Velodyne SPL-10
    Marantz 7012
    Panasonic 9000
    JVC 420
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  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited June 2008
    that's good deal...only if I had $2100 more, I would buy this
    Video: LG 55LN5100/Samsung LNT4065F
    Receiver: HK AVR445
    Source: OPPO BDP-93
    HT: POLK SPEAKERS RTi6, FXi3, CSi5, VTF-3 MK2
    2Ch system: MC2105, AR-XA, AR-2A, AR9, BX-300, OPPO BDP-83
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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited June 2008
    ok I will ask why the $2100 "more".
    hockeyboy was able to get the amp for $1150.
    Current HT setup
    Mains: B&W 804s
    Center: Polk CSi5
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
    Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
    Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
    TV: Sony KDS60A2020
    DBP: Sony DBP-S350
    CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
    Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
    speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited June 2008
    my monthly allowance of $100:( equates to 21 months of saving…I guess that’s one of the perks of being married.:eek:
    Video: LG 55LN5100/Samsung LNT4065F
    Receiver: HK AVR445
    Source: OPPO BDP-93
    HT: POLK SPEAKERS RTi6, FXi3, CSi5, VTF-3 MK2
    2Ch system: MC2105, AR-XA, AR-2A, AR9, BX-300, OPPO BDP-83
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  • bondslex
    bondslex Posts: 109
    edited June 2008
    He has the 5200. It is 200x5(8ohms), 400x5(4ohms). I have this same amp.

    The 5400 is 400x5, 8 ohms.
    LSI 15
    LSI C
    LSI FX
    80 fx ls for atmos
    Velodyne SPL-10
    Marantz 7012
    Panasonic 9000
    JVC 420
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