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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited December 2007
    sophie wrote: »
    the cables on the TT are only 2 or 3 feet long so i could not put the TT where i wanted so for now it sits on top of my pre. what is the best place to put it?Payton

    get yourself a pair of these RCA couplers.. it allows you to use another pair of interconnects on your turntable.. and it will give you a much longer cable. so you can move your TT where ever you like.

    It's best to keep it away from any amp and certainly away from your speakers. try and place it so it's not stacked on anything.. namely a pre amp.

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  • sophie
    sophie Posts: 511
    edited December 2007
    cmy330go wrote: »
    It sounds like the sub-platter may be out of true. I had this happen once before with an MMF-2.1. What happens is when they press the center steel post through the hard plastic sub-platter it goes through slightly crooked.

    The easiest way to verify this is to turn on the table, and without any record on it just lean down and look along the bottom edge of the steel platter. If it appears that the platter is moving closer and farther from the table on each revolution then you probably have a bum sub-platter.

    If this is the case just contact Stephen at Quest for Sound and tell him the situation. He will most likely put you in contact with Leland at Music Hall and they will just send you a replacement sub-platter. Free of charge of course.

    Keep us posted!


    the bottom edge of the platter definitely moves up and down every time it goes around. ill call Stephen and see what happens.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,946
    edited December 2007
    Yes, please do. This is bad.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,946
    edited December 2007
    Hold on. Do you have the platter/spindle with the threads up?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,946
    edited December 2007
    bikezappa wrote: »
    Mount the TT on the wall with brackets or wire. All floors move up and down. The walls also move up and down but much less. Do this test jump up and down near the TT not rotating and see if the arm moves when on the LP.
    OMG! On a bad LP. DO NOT do this with one you want to listen too. lol.
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  • sophie
    sophie Posts: 511
    edited December 2007
    im sure the arm will move. our house is about 100 years old and the whole house moves if anyone jumps anywhere or a door is shut.

    by keeping the TT away from the speaker is it ok to put it on the wall behind the speaker?

    what threads?

    all i did was take out the red screws it said to, put the platter on the spindle/sub platter, and adjust the counter weight.
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited December 2007
    treitz3 wrote: »
    OMG! On a bad LP. DO NOT do this with one you want to listen too. lol.

    You are correct of course.
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited December 2007
    sophie wrote: »
    im sure the arm will move. our house is about 100 years old and the whole house moves if anyone jumps anywhere or a door is shut.

    by keeping the TT away from the speaker is it ok to put it on the wall behind the speaker?

    I also lived in a old house with a TT. I think any solid wall will work much better than mounting on the floor with a table.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,946
    edited December 2007
    sophie wrote: »
    what threads?
    Hey Sophie, I was referring to the spindle/platter assembly. If your's is like my MMF-5 you can flip the spindle/platter assembly upside down and vise-versa. Make sure that the threads are located up and that the non-threaded side is down inserted into the bearing assembly and give it a whirl.
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited December 2007
    sophie wrote: »
    ....what threads?

    all i did was take out the red screws it said to, put the platter on the spindle/sub platter, and adjust the counter weight.

    I think he's picturing a center spindle with threads for a record clamp. The MMF-2.1 doesn't have a threaded spindle. That is something you find on the MMF-5 and up.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,946
    edited December 2007
    cmy330go wrote: »
    I think he's picturing a center spindle with threads for a record clamp. The MMF-2.1 doesn't have a threaded spindle. That is something you find on the MMF-5 and up.
    Oh, my bad. I don't even know what the threads are for. I use "the clamp" I got from H.I..
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited December 2007
    Just had another thought.

    Just to confirm it is the sub-platter and not the platter itself try this:

    First lift the platter off of the table and place it face down (without mat) on a known flat surface. Then check for any gaps around the edge, or see if it teeters at all. It should lay completely flat.

    Second turn on the table without the platter on it, and see if you can spot the top edge of the sub-platter moving up and down at all. It might be a little tough to see, but there should not be any vertical movement.
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited December 2007
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Oh, my bad. I don't even know what the threads are for. I use "the clamp" I got from H.I..

    HaHa. Guess you beat me to it.:)
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  • sophie
    sophie Posts: 511
    edited December 2007
    tried that with the sub platter it is almost impossible to tell if it is moving. ill try the platter on a flat surface.
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    Adcom gfa 5500 and HK/240
    Adcom gtp 400
    Adcom gcp 600
    MusicHall MMF 2.1 TT
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited December 2007
    Strange, this never happens with my i-pod...
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,946
    edited December 2007
    Stab, stab, stab.......
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited December 2007
    ROFL I couldn't resist. SRY.
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    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
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  • sophie
    sophie Posts: 511
    edited December 2007
    i have an mp3 player--it is broke tho. left it in my pocket and it went threw the wash :o hope my TT doesn't go threw the washing machine.

    it is the sub platter and not the platter.

    Payton
    Polk monitor 10B's and 5 jr's
    Adcom gfa 5500 and HK/240
    Adcom gtp 400
    Adcom gcp 600
    MusicHall MMF 2.1 TT
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited January 2008
    How did this turn out?
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    2 CH
    Parasound Halo P3, Parasound Halo A21, Sutherland Ph.D, VPI Classic 3 w/ 3D arm & Soundsmith Aida Cartridge, Arcam CD72T, B&W 802 S3, Monster HTS2500,
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