What Does It Mean? Sony Give Up Br

izafar wrote: »

I totally agree. You can check the following link that did the comparison between SP3 DVD and Blu-ray:
http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=761

Yep..

izafar wrote: »

Actually the fear is that if the war doesn't end, both format will loose a slow death or will be slow to take off, that's is basically what is Microsoft's agenda, they want us to download the movies from XBox market place rather then buying on disks. Remember Bill Gates has said that days of packaged media are over.

In 5 years we are getting hit by a huge meteor anyway, so I'm not waiting...:p


They are acting like a divorced couple...





....the wife is Sony...(of corse wanting it all).....:p

Ill takes on the PS/Xbox vs Wii thing.

Simple fact, the Wii has HUGE and broad appeal. It basically likes comparing apples to Oranges. The PS systems have always been geared to a more mature gamming crowd and the Nintendo to a wide audience, especially kids I’m actually shocked that the Wii is 13 mil and the PS3 is 10 mil. My young kids don’t want anything to do with a Xbox or PS3, they want a Wii. My Son has the opinion between a PS2, PS3 and a Nintendo DS right now and he spends his time on the Nintendo DS playing Pokemon. Of course, the ps2 and ps3 were originally bought for me to play Grand Taurismo (and that’s about it)We just bought a Wii because we know they will actually play it. I'll roll it out to the kids for Xmas and have no doubt that it will get way more play time then the PS's.

The Nintendo is marketed different to a different audience. No serious gammer is going to pick a Wii over an Xbox or PS3.

reeltrouble1 wrote:

I guess the first part of #4 would apply to me and video but I am still a movie fan, love watching them.

Same here....with a DVD library of 500± and a couple hundred VHS tapes still in the mix...not to mention that we have a constant flow of movies from Blockbuster online...I am a movie fan. But I am squarely in Ted's court to say that I'm not going to spend the cash to get marginally better PQ than what I already have. Granted HD-DVD and Bluray ARE better...just not enough for me to spend more for the software. The PQ I get from my HT rig is way better that you get in a movie theater, just not as BIG (in fact I rarely go to the movies anymore). I did replace my favorite movies on DVD vs VHS for more reasons than just the PQ. Durability and digital surround formats being equal to the improved PQ. I am a fan of SACD. But I don't spend big bucks for music either. If I can get a SACD or a pristine LP for the same price as a CD (actually I won't spend on a LP what I do for a SACD...but that's just me) that's great...if not the CD will do just fine.

Right now DVD is good enough for me.

The son's PSIII gives me Blu, but I still go with mostly DVD.
Long wait times/limited selection from Netflix for Blu
makes it a no brainer. Upconverting is good enough for now.
I don't watch many movies, and never buy any.
They can beat each other up to a pulp. I don't care.
So do many other consumers. Tell me when it's over, and
I'll buy the players when the price comes to earth. Same for the media.
BB and CC will just have to go hungry.

F1nut wrote: »

You see the problem here is that DVD's were much better than VHS, the public could see that difference clearly. However, the difference between DVD and HD-DVD isn't as great, making it much harder for the public to justify spending MORE money for something they already have.

ABSOLUTELY, good point.

Toshiba will sell another 500,000 before Christmas. Or close to it. Especially if they keep the $98 price.

jakelm wrote: »

Toshiba will sell another 500,000 before Christmas. Or close to it. Especially if they keep the $98 price.

Are they still readily available for $98?

steveinaz wrote: »

You ask me, Toshiba is doing the smart thing. This is how they won the VHS/Beta war. Sony is a little slow.

Get the equipment out there, fast & cheap--let people see that awesome picture and BANG, they are in love. Marketing 101. Sony, you listening or still holding your breath?

Well, one of the articles states that there already are over 2 million ps3 blu-ray players out there just in the US. Before the price drops, the 360 add-on was actually the best selling hd-dvd player. I'm sure that's changed since $98 is half the price of the add-on. But before this latest move, both gaming machines saved the a$$es of both formats.

reeltrouble1 wrote: »

its a hd player, I try to only talk about things I own use and etc, RT1 is all about empirical data!!!!

Nothing like good empirical data....

The hd player makes hd movies look very good, don't get me wrong.

RT1

...I get you wrong all the time... your a 2 channel guy talking to a HT guy remember?...:p

From SlySoft

"Note to Twentieth Century Fox: As you can see, BD+ didn't offer you any advanced security, it just annoyed some of your customers with older players. So could you please cut this crap and start publishing your titles on HD DVD? There are thousands of people willing to give you money."

"Note to people considering to invest in HD media: Please buy HD DVD instead of Blu-ray. HD DVD is much more consumer friendly (e.g., no region coding, AACS not mandatory). Don't give your money to people, who throw your fair-use rights out of the window."

Not that everyone uses AnyDVD. But the ones who do will read....

Silverti wrote: »

I wouldn’t define the difference as "marginal". Some over to my 10 foot wide screen and we will throw in a HD disk vs a SD dvd and the difference I would define as "colossal". I have 300ish DVD’s myself and I also want to be able to use them forever but there’s a point where you need to stop rationalizing that there’s a very little difference and just roll with it. HD media is much.. much.. much better (BR or HD-DVD)

Yep...Yep...Yep....


Colossal....Good word...

I like the much...much...much better too.

In short, SD-DVD cant touch HD-DVD with a 10 foot poll.

shack wrote: »

I have seen the difference and to say it is "colossal" is a gross overstatement IMO. I said it was marginal TO ME because I really don't care if I get the last little bit of resoultion on the screen, regardless of the size. Having seen the difference, first hand...no amount of demonstrations from anyone will convince me that I need to change at this time...given the current state of affairs. I am perfectly content with what I currently have. Better is relative.

Your not happy Shack...You neeeeeedddd HDDDD...you want HD , you have to have HD....you will not be happy until you get HD....nothing in your life will go right until you get HD....You are living in a blurred world...HD will clear it up for you...HD is your friend....it wants to help you Shack...give in to the hate and join me on the HD side.....together we can defeat the BR's....