Does the cables really matter??? Or it´s just good marketing?

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  • liordra
    liordra Posts: 152
    edited May 2007
    At this point this thread-that-never-ends, resembles a skirmish between wild dogs in the African savanna, that tries determine which is the alpha male. Not that I am against an online insult contest, as a way to make it though another day of work, but what's the reward? proving that you are top dog in the pack of the hi-fi geeks?
    Is anybody here going to budge an inch? I don't think so. so what do I suggest? the most obvious thing to do. lets proceed towards mother insults. take it up a notch.
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  • The Naked Truth
    The Naked Truth Posts: 30
    edited May 2007
    tonyb wrote: »
    Headphones and speakers are 2 different animals.Try again sir.You keep bringing up money,whats your idea of an expensive cable? I have a bi- wire 8 ft set for 350 clams,do you consider that expensive? Side note,list your gear so we know what and where your comming from.

    Well, I use mains cable, 4x2.5mm with ferrite beads on them to reduce interference. Dirt cheap, highly effective.

    I don't do pissing contests on who's got more cash to blow on their rigs, just like I don't ask how much you might be spending in order to get sex.
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    I just like overhearing some silly bugger in a Hi-Fi shop spending hundreds on loudspeaker cables and thinking what a knob jockey I have an old friend who’s a teacher in electronics and he knows the difference between sensibility and stupidity.
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  • Polk65
    Polk65 Posts: 1,405
    edited May 2007
    The Naked Truth wrote:
    Excuse me while I yawn..

    That's excusable up to the point when you realize there are tens of thousands of posts here by 45,000+ members. There would have been even more posts online if someone hadn't pressed the "any key". :rolleyes:

    Coloration is nearly non-existent with most everyone here setting tone controls to flat, that is if their pre-amps even have tone controls. Again, don't dismiss what other's hear. It's all subjective.
    THX 3417 wrote:
    Hmm, Thank you, fish I do like tuna fish why can you smell my tuna fish breath. :D

    My auntie lived in Dorset. ;)
    The Naked Truth wrote:
    I've just noticed something interesting about this thread.. The higher the post count of people in this forum, the more they're inclined to spend big $$ on their rig and believe in all kinds of hype.
    I feel for you, oh yee of little social life..

    You can chalk that up to experience, divorce, or living single and having the shells to play with.

    BTW, you're off to a great start with insulting people.
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    Polk65

    No Kidding, lovely countryside around here. In fact it’s the rainy season now looks like British summertime came and went before it started.:D
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  • The Naked Truth
    The Naked Truth Posts: 30
    edited May 2007
    Forget cables, buy THIS: http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C

    Oh, and for the ultimate sound experience, stuff your ears with parsley. No, not any kind of weed, specifically Parsley. Should be fresh too. Parsley has a very special properties when interacting with incoming sound waves and stagnant sound waves inside one's ears. Don't dismiss before you try!!!
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  • liordra
    liordra Posts: 152
    edited May 2007
    The Naked Truth wrote: »
    Forget cables, buy THIS: http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C

    Oh, and for the ultimate sound experience, stuff your ears with parsley. No, not any kind of weed, specifically Parsley. Should be fresh too. Parsley has a very special properties when interacting with incoming sound waves and stagnant sound waves inside one's ears. Don't dismiss before you try!!!

    should I Tabasco as well ? just for the highs?
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    LOL, I don’t know about stuffing my ears with parsley, I mean I get tinnitus from time to time never mind stuffing your ears with food products.:D
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  • Polk65
    Polk65 Posts: 1,405
    edited May 2007
    A shot of tabasco is one tweak I hadn't thought of yet. Have you found any difference between Crystal and McIlhenny?

    I seem to recollect my face drawing tight such as while sucking on a lemon and my ears constricted with a rush of blood across my face. There was a definite loss of hearing involved. Maybe this isn't such a good idea after all.
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    OH that is grim makes my skin crawl it does.:D
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    One think I have learnt steadily over the years is that active crossover frequency dividing networks makes a whole lot of difference between the, passive crossover approach. So when I get a around within the few weeks of slowly changing over from passive to active with new cable runs for the matching LCR fronts. I’d be paying more attention to affordable costs.
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  • The Naked Truth
    The Naked Truth Posts: 30
    edited May 2007
    If you can afford to shell out so much on cables alone, you must get these:

    http://www.audiomagic.dk/cableholders.html
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    I don’t know about that site some internal instinct said it looked dodgy.:(
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  • liordra
    liordra Posts: 152
    edited May 2007
    Polk65 wrote: »
    A shot of tabasco is one tweak I hadn't thought of yet. Have you found any difference between Crystal and McIlhenny?

    I seem to recollect my face drawing tight such as while sucking on a lemon and my ears constricted with a rush of blood across my face. There was a definite loss of hearing involved. Maybe this isn't such a good idea after all.

    Nothing like a Habanero high.
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    LOL, We’re like a pack of hungry vultures hovering over this thread what did something die or what?:D

    vultures.jpg
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  • liordra
    liordra Posts: 152
    edited May 2007
    THX 3417 wrote: »
    I don’t know about that site some internal instinct said it looked dodgy.:(

    The site is Legit. at the very least as quick laugh.
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    liordra wrote: »
    The site is Legit. at the very least as quick laugh.

    Sorry mate, it looked dodgy and I don’t need another one of those links to crash my pc again.:(
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  • The Naked Truth
    The Naked Truth Posts: 30
    edited May 2007
    With enough tabasco sauce in your system, who needs Hi-Fi? :D

    http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_001/papers/manuscripts/_559.html
    Category: Neurochemistry
    Term Paper Code: 559

    TheRelationship between Capsaicin and it's Interactions and Effects on the Activation of the Pain Pathway, the Release of B-endorphins, and the Activation of the Limbic System
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  • liordra
    liordra Posts: 152
    edited May 2007
    THX 3417 wrote: »
    Sorry mate, it looked dodgy and I don’t need another one of those links to crash my pc again.:(

    Then you would never know the price a wooden volume knob, and the wonderful reviews it got.
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    No I guess I’d never know. I wonder if they use expensive golden soft toilet paper, you know if they can afford extremely expensive loudspeaker cables surly they can afford to golden soft for the bottom end of there frequency.:D
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  • The Naked Truth
    The Naked Truth Posts: 30
    edited May 2007
    Why would I want or need to ruin your computer, when I can post all sorts of silly Hi-Fi mods that can ruin your bank account? ;)
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  • liordra
    liordra Posts: 152
    edited May 2007
    Nothing less then 24 Karat, for a true audiophile A@##.
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    The Naked Truth wrote: »
    Why would I want or need to ruin your computer, when I can post all sorts of silly Hi-Fi mods that can ruin your bank account? ;)

    Excuse me...
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  • shudupanddance
    shudupanddance Posts: 1
    edited May 2007
    Can we not just end the argument and get some powerpacs and stick em on the back of the speakers.

    No speaker cable to argue about and go and eat some nice lunch.

    PS What speaker cable do say B&W use inside their speakers....

    There is probably a difference between speaker cables, but the best thing is to probably keep the high power cable to a minimum distance.

    I'm curious in studio recording do people have big arguments as to what microphone cable to use?
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  • The Naked Truth
    The Naked Truth Posts: 30
    edited May 2007
    Cables, speakers, players and amplifiers are all meaningless.
    I have seen the light! Must.. resist.. temptation.. to buy...!!!

    http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/francktchang/resonators.html
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,408
    edited May 2007
    To all those non-believer types read my signature. This is the truth as far as audio appreciation is right there.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    What about this snake oil I’ve been hearing about? What is snake oil got in common with loudspeaker cable?
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  • The Naked Truth
    The Naked Truth Posts: 30
    edited May 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    To all those non-believer types read my signature. This is the truth as far as audio appreciation is right there.

    Funny that this quote comes from the mouth of a manufacturer, obviously a man with a lot to gain from people spending MORE money on their rigs. :rolleyes:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,408
    edited May 2007
    The Naked Truth wrote: »
    Funny that this quote comes from the mouth of a manufacturer, obviously a man with a lot to gain from people spending MORE money on their rigs. :rolleyes:

    Nelson Pass is a great guy and has a true passion for audio and audio reproduction. Ever talked with him..........doubt it beacuse you wouldn't have said what you did. He's helped more DIY people and given away his time and effort and knowledge for free. Making money is not his top priority. What an ignorant remark you made.

    Certainly there are manufacturers out there who's #1 goal is to seperate you from your money. But, Nelson Pass isn't one of those. Sure he's in business to make money but he's contributed more to audio (with no strings attached) over the past 20 years than many others and that just happens to allow hjim to make a living.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    The Naked Truth wrote: »
    Funny that this quote comes from the mouth of a manufacturer, obviously a man with a lot to gain from people spending MORE money on their rigs. :rolleyes:

    I believe the term is called milking.:(
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