Does the cables really matter??? Or it´s just good marketing?

shack

One of the nicer features of this forum is the ignore list. It allows one to view a thread without having to wade through a lot of useless drivel. My list JUST got longer.

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The Naked Truth

heiney9 wrote: »

Nelson Pass is a great guy and has a true passion for audio and audio reproduction. Ever talked with him..........doubt it beacuse you wouldn't have said what you did. He's helped more DIY people and given away his time and effort and knowledge for free. Making money is not his top priority. What an ignorant remark you made.

Certainly there are manufacturers out there who's #1 goal is to seperate you from your money. But, Nelson Pass isn't one of those. Sure he's in business to make money but he's contributed more to audio (with no strings attached) over the past 20 years than many others and that just happens to allow hjim to make a living.

H9

While I accept what you said about him as a person, I still can't accept this quote. If you go to a concert and later buy the recording, most people would strive to get an authentic reproduction. Once you go for anything different or beyond what the sound engineers microphones picked and he mixed, you're going towards subjective taste and deviate from the original. Either way, both can be achieved without fancy cables, pure wood know, cable holders or resonators.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wharfedale_(company)#History

founded in 1932 by Gilbert Briggs, and became one of Britain's leading manufacturers of audiophile equipment, particularly loudspeakers. In addition to winning awards by groups such as the Bradford Radio Society, mass public testing at Carnegie Hall proved Wharfedale speakers indistinguishable from live music.

I bet he used fancy cables to achieve that...:rolleyes:

reeltrouble1

Once again we are saved by the newb. Oh, how could we have been so wrong all these years, more years than they have even been alive in many cases, we are so wrong, so wrong, so wrong, I am here to save you says the newb, I have the word, the word is my law, the word that shines above all other words........................

New Guy??? Nemo??? or Jesus Christ His Self..........

Here is the word it is simple

My experience tell me Cables Matter.

Now go get that data fellows and keep digging or better yet just go back to you regular program.


So as the dust settles on yet another cable thread
what will William and his newly found companion's do.........

William: I have nothing to prove

liandro: But the test the test, the AB/X test

William: I have nothing to prove

liandro: But the test the test, they do not understand the test

William: I have nothing to prove, liandro do not say that again

liandro: But the data, the data......

William: I told you, say that again and I am going to hook two electrodes
to your gonads and turn them and your eyeballs into jelly

liandro: But the t.................

William: That does it.............

So as Willaim looks down at liandro's charred body and oozing eyeballs, he shakes his head and shrugs his shoulders, then he notices a paper still clutched between liandro's hand, he can faintly make out the words.........

THE TEST WAS WRONG CABLES MATTER

So where will this band head next saving audiophoole's from their self, one rig at a time..............or will this be the first of the five year cable debates as the Oralce has foretold.........

I dunno.

RT1

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shack wrote: »

One of the nicer features of this forum is the ignore list. It allows one to view a thread without having to wade through a lot of useless drivel. My list JUST got longer.

Reminds me of too many bigots who went down in history, you're in a "good" crowd.. :rolleyes:

The Naked Truth

reeltrouble1 wrote: »

Once again we are saved by the newb. Oh, how could we have been so wrong all these years, more years than they have even been alive in many cases, we are so wrong, so wrong, so wrong, I am here to save you says the newb, I have the word, the word is my law, the word that shines above all other words........................

And I was almost certain you were quoting something about the Catholic Church vs. Galileo Galilei.
You're right ofcorse, the 'n00b' was wrong, he went ahead to prove the earth wasn't flat and fell off the edge. Think before you call someone newb, some of us have already forgotten more than you'll ever learn.

edit: And tell Gilbert Briggs he should have used better cables!

Polk65

Keep up your attitude and more will have forgotten you by the end of the day. That's a fact jack.

The Naked Truth

Polk65 wrote: »

Keep up your attitude and more will have forgotten you by the end of the day. That's a fact jack.

Truth hurts, I know. Seen it all over the bible, do you know yours?

reeltrouble1

Well now everything was fine till you had to go and throw that tag line and hurt poor RT1's feelings..............

Newb--That is our Protocol not nOOb.

Ever consider changing your S/N to Nemo, as you are apparently the ONE, or perhaps go in another direction with maybe some other Anti-Hero thing to join the family. hmmm......well it is just off the top of my head, but Farts on Self might work for you.

Have a nice day.

I have to go now, afterall it is not an audio day, there a ceremony I need to attend.

RT1

The Naked Truth

So, now that you have nothing smart to say, you go for personal attacks?
That's so mature.. You're right, cables make a difference, in color, appearance, bank account but not SOUND. Unless they sound different when you drop them.

Come back when you've grown up, Sheesh...


edit: Try putting some resonators in your toilet bowl, you'll strain less and get a much wider sound stage.

wingnut4772

As one of the high post count people who believe that cables matter I will also say this: I don't really think digital cables matter.... for audio purposes anyway. Maybe HDMI and video but I have never heard a difference between one digital cable and another.

The Naked Truth

Video and audio signals are fundamentally different. If you want to test how interference affects a digital (stereo PCM) connection:

Replace coaxial digital cable with plain el-cheapo audio RCA. Sound should be there, everything normal. Now turn on a Fluorescent lamp nearby (the old kind with starters, ones that usually blink once or twice before giving stable light) and you'll notice your sound disappearing with every blink. The way it works, if the data is corrupted, you'll hear nothing. Cheap cable, expensive cable, if you're getting sound, it's a good cable.

The Naked Truth

I must add that when speaking about optical interconnects, there's a whole voodoo going about jitter. Which as some witchdoctors claim can be corrected by using green maker on the outer edge of your CDs.:rolleyes:

RuSsMaN

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