PSW300 problem - Please help!

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bingofuel
bingofuel Posts: 3
edited February 2014 in Troubleshooting
Hello-

I've got a PSW300, came bundled with a Polk RM series (7300, I think, but I could be mistaken). I've loved it for the past two years, been very happy with both music and home theater. I watch a lot of war movies, and have been really happy with the effects.

Just last week, all of a sudden, the sub began making a nasty rumbling sound with very low bass (happens with many movies, but only with really low bass). Definitely coming from the sub, and it almost sounds like something is loose. It's not a pop, more like a distorted rumble. When this isn't happening, the bass effects sound great. The speakers seem to be operating normally as well.

Can anyone give any advice on where to go from here? I don't think I've overtaxed the sub (volume at about 12:00), and nothing has changed with my home theater setup recently.

Thanks for any help,

-Tim
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited August 2002
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    nasty rumbling sound
    I watch a lot of war movies
    making a nasty rumbling sound with very low bass
    I'm quessing the woofer after 2 years has just had better days and it is not totally blown but is suffering. Call Polk and see what they say - there customer service is outstanding. I'm sure they will fix u right up.;)
  • bingofuel
    bingofuel Posts: 3
    edited September 2002
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    Thanks for the advice. I called Customer Service, and they were great. I'm sending the driver to them for repair. If they come through and fix or repair it, I'll be a Polk convert for life.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited September 2002
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    Great, I'm glad things are on the way to being corrected!
    Take care, Ken
  • bingofuel
    bingofuel Posts: 3
    edited September 2002
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    Update: Driver was sent to Polk, returned to me in an amazingly short time, and I'm back in bass heaven. Great customer service - When I upgrade, my next speakers/sub will be Polk.
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited September 2002
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    Stick around bingo, get your post on. I'm gonna hold you to that upgrade promise.... ;)

    Cheers,
    Rooster
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • steve chalupka
    steve chalupka Posts: 3
    edited December 2002
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    Steve Chalupka here. I'm a new member (have owned Polk Audio RM 7300 system -- including PSW 300).
    I'm glad I reviewed this thread because I too am experiencing the same problem with my PSW 300. I purchased my PSW 300 from United Audio (now Tweeter) back in '96 (reg. card should be on file). Just last week I noticed (heard) a "rattling" sound coming from the PSW 300. It didn't sound normal. I immediately took it to Tweeter and the tech said "no question your woofer is blown". He further stated that he has replaced many of these and it is a common problem. My question is has there been a recall that I'm not aware of? The tech further stated to call Polk directly to find out if this can be replaced free of charge (eventhough it maybe out of warranty).
    As a side note. When I first purchsed the Polk system (that was professionally installed by United Audio along w/ all my other Denon components) I spoke to a guy by the name of Ken Swauger. I notice his name appears here as the moderator. Kudos to this man. He is without question one of the most knowledgeable and CUSTOMER FOCUSED individuals I have EVER spoken to. I have left an email on line to try and get in touch with him to discuss the problem I am having with my PSW 300.
  • jdavy
    jdavy Posts: 380
    edited December 2002
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    Steve,

    Give Ken a call.

    The best think about Polk Audio is the people that work there. I think the like stereo as much as we do.
  • steve chalupka
    steve chalupka Posts: 3
    edited December 2002
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    Thanks.
    I already did Monday morning. Ken cut me a GREAT deal on a new woofer. This man is a great asset to Polk Audio. I should be back in business by Friday!
    S -
  • calculoid
    calculoid Posts: 1
    edited December 2002
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    I AM A NEW MEMBER AND HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WITH MY PSW300. I ALSO PURCHASED MY SYSTEM IN 1996. I HOPE THAT I CAN GET A DEAL TO GET MY SUB UP AND GOING AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW YET HOW TO PROCEED.
  • MxStYlEpOlKmAn
    MxStYlEpOlKmAn Posts: 2,116
    edited December 2002
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    Originally posted by bingofuel
    Definitely coming from the sub, and it almost sounds like something is loose. It's not a pop, more like a distorted rumble. The speakers seem to be operating normally as well.

    all that sounds familiar....:rolleyes: :lol::lol:
    Damn you all, damn you all to hell.......
    I promised myself
    No more speakers. None. Nada. And then you posted this!!!!
    Damn you all! - ATC
  • steve chalupka
    steve chalupka Posts: 3
    edited December 2002
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    Got my new driver today. Guess what ? After waiting for it I open the bubblewrap to find it is (I think) the wrong driver. Pick slip is marked MW 1081. Sticker on driver is marked MW 1083. I've already got a call into Ken.
    Can anyone answer this question. When I pulled the blown driver (MW 1081)out of my PSW 300 it looked EXACTLY like the one I was sent which was labeled MW 1083. According to Polk's parts list the MW 1081 is for PSW 150 sub. Is it the same speaker (physical appearance) or is the one they sent me really a MW 1081 marked incorrectly?
    Need help
    S -
  • ErDrRon
    ErDrRon Posts: 4
    edited November 2005
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    I realize this is a very old thread but I am now experiencing the same problem with my PSW300. When I look at the actual speaker (MW1081) it looks like the orange/brown paper cone that is attached to the black speaker cone has come unglued from the metal frame. I also purchased this subwoofer bundled in a Polk Audio Home Theater Surround Sound system (RM 7300V, I think) back in the mid-90's. Any advice on where to go from here?

    Thanks,
    Ron
  • ErDrRon
    ErDrRon Posts: 4
    edited November 2005
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited November 2005
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    Hello Ron,
    It sounds as though the glue bond linking the voice coil former and the cone has separated. The woofer would have to be replaced. We no longer have any of the MW1081 woofers remaining, however we do have a solution. The 10" woofer that is used in the PSW202 works very well in the older PSW300. A small amount of installation effort is needed since the new woofer has a slightly larger diameter basket than the original the mounting hole will need to be slightly enlarged. This can be done with a wood file or a sanding block and takes about 15 to 20 minutes. The new part is RD2020-1 and the Club Polk price is $56.00 and please mention your membership when calling us at 1-800-377-7655.
    Take care, Ken
  • ErDrRon
    ErDrRon Posts: 4
    edited November 2005
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    Ken,

    I've looked at several technical websites about subwoofers and they refer to this particular structure as a 'spider'. I've "super-glued" the outside edge of the spider back to the metal basket and it seems to be working well now. Should it break down again I will be sure to take up your offer. What would be the approximate shipping cost to the Denver, Colorado area for the replacement subwoofer?

    Thanks,
    Ron
  • emcrites
    emcrites Posts: 29
    edited March 2006
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    Ken,

    Are the woofer params similar enough between the MW1081 and the RD2020-1? Would you reccomend repairing the MW1081, or buying the PSW202's driver as a replacement? What is causing this problem in this particular woofer? Old glue on the spider? A weakened surround? Thank you in advance.
  • ErDrRon
    ErDrRon Posts: 4
    edited March 2006
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    The Superglue worked wonderfully and the sub continues to function well.

    Ron
  • Avedis
    Avedis Posts: 1
    edited April 2006
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    I too have a PSW 300 and had the buzzing noise as mentioned at the beginning of this thread. I found the spider had separated from the basket because of glue failure.

    Instead of super glue I wanted to use something that would remain flexible in order to survive the movement of the spider. Over time, glues become brittle and fail. I used 50 year silicone sealant all around the spider. Laying a nice bead around the basket was a challenge but taking my time I was able to permanently fix the problem.

    I have this sub matched with a pair of LS-70's, a CS350-LS and a pair of M5 surrounds. 11 years old and they all look and sound brand new!
  • pinballlooking
    pinballlooking Posts: 2
    edited October 2012
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    I know very old post.
    I too have a PSW 300 and had the buzzing noise as mentioned at the beginning of this thread. I found the spider had separated from the basket because of glue failure.
    I used silicone sealant to fix it also as described above.
    Thanks it works great.
  • jmckay
    jmckay Posts: 4
    edited February 2014
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    Can anyone point out a diagram of what screws to remove to access the inside? There are like, a million of them. Do I need to remove every one or just the ones on the periphery? Help! I want my boom boom back!
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited February 2014
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    Hello,
    A million seems like a lot. Just remove the ones around the circumference of the backplate.
    Ken
  • jmckay
    jmckay Posts: 4
    edited February 2014
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    Hello,
    A million seems like a lot. Just remove the ones around the circumference of the backplate.
    Ken

    Thanks!
    :)
  • AnalogRob
    AnalogRob Posts: 4
    edited February 2014
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    what's the best way to fix my psw300? from reading a few posts it sounds like gettin in touch w/Ken is the way to go. I believe the cone is toast.....similar I believe to what several others here have experienced w/this particular line. Also....while I'm here (albeit OT so I'll also look for an av receiver thread).....what do you folks think of the Anthem line of AVR's? I'm in the mrkt for one after being out of the mrkt for approx 30+ yrs.....have a Pioneer SX3900.....the last of the era...the ol' classic analog & fluroscan line....too bad it wont run the Polk's & (shhhhhh) JBL 65's via the big screen...a 50' Samsung DLP. This is what I'm lookin to build around so it'd sure be nice ta get the 300 butt kicker all squared away while I'm lookin for the AVR....& of course tia for any suggs/comments.
    d
  • AnalogRob
    AnalogRob Posts: 4
    edited February 2014
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    AnalogRob wrote: »
    what's the best way to fix my psw300? from reading a few posts it sounds like gettin in touch w/Ken is the way to go. I believe the cone is toast.....similar I believe to what several others here have experienced w/this particular line. Also....while I'm here (albeit OT so I'll also look for an av receiver thread).....what do you folks think of the Anthem line of AVR's? I'm in the mrkt for one after being out of the mrkt for approx 30+ yrs.....have a Pioneer SX3900.....the last of the era...the ol' classic analog & fluroscan line....too bad it wont run the Polk's & (shhhhhh) JBL 65's via the big screen...a 50' Samsung DLP. This is what I'm lookin to build around so it'd sure be nice ta get the 300 butt kicker all squared away while I'm lookin for the AVR....& of course tia for any suggs/comments.
    d

    I should add....I'm fairly confident (assuming of course it is indeed the cone that needs to be replaced) I can remove the bad cone & install the replacement. After posting last night, I was successfull in removing the the cone & re-installing it....not all that easy to remove the cone (small opening....getting a circle thru a square ;)~ however I was able to figure it out w/a bit of minor adjusting. Only issue I may have troube with is re-attaching the 2 pronged black/red electrical line that runs to the power supply....the 2 pronged black/white cable that's kinda tucked away & not all too easy to locate. Guess it's not a connection that's meant to be disconnected...pretty sure I wasn't supposed to remove the metal case that's attached to the back panel w/the 4 screws. However it all seems fairly easy to reassmble. Had to set it aside however as I ran out of time & had to focus my attention on other (family) issues. Plan to spend more time trying to secure this particular connection later today when I'll have more uninterrupted time to focus on it. Thx for any suggs w/re to a replacement cone....again, assuming that's the issue. Note: willing to give someone a call if possible...I'm kinda old school as I tend to prefer voice....so perhaps I'll look up the tech support # later today as well.
  • AnalogRob
    AnalogRob Posts: 4
    edited February 2014
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    AnalogRob wrote: »
    I should add....I'm fairly confident (assuming of course it is indeed the cone that needs to be replaced) I can remove the bad cone & install the replacement. After posting last night, I was successfull in removing the the cone & re-installing it....not all that easy to remove the cone (small opening....getting a circle thru a square ;)~ however I was able to figure it out w/a bit of minor adjusting. Only issue I may have troube with is re-attaching the 2 pronged black/red electrical line that runs to the power supply....the 2 pronged black/white cable that's kinda tucked away & not all too easy to locate. Guess it's not a connection that's meant to be disconnected...pretty sure I wasn't supposed to remove the metal case that's attached to the back panel w/the 4 screws. However it all seems fairly easy to reassmble. Had to set it aside however as I ran out of time & had to focus my attention on other (family) issues. Plan to spend more time trying to secure this particular connection later today when I'll have more uninterrupted time to focus on it. Thx for any suggs w/re to a replacement cone....again, assuming that's the issue. Note: willing to give someone a call if possible...I'm kinda old school as I tend to prefer voice....so perhaps I'll look up the tech support # later today as well.

    update 3:.....OK...that was easy....got the 2 pinned red & black power pin attached.....helps to not try attaching it upside down...OK...all together now....a collective "duhhhhhh"......& thx for making these butt kickers (& all other killer PA bad boys) only be put back together 1 way...the proper way that is. OK.....so can any 1 comment as to how easy (or difficult) it is to successfully throw a new cone in there? It's a PSW 300 from '96.....like most here have posted.....hoping to get a decent price (is it still approx $55 direct from PA oudda CO?) as I'm on unfortunately on a fairly restrcitive financial leash.....aka a garage sale nugget leash :0 TIA!!
  • AnalogRob
    AnalogRob Posts: 4
    edited February 2014
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    AnalogRob wrote: »
    update 3:.....OK...that was easy....got the 2 pinned red & black power pin attached.....helps to not try attaching it upside down...OK...all together now....a collective "duhhhhhh"......& thx for making these butt kickers (& all other killer PA bad boys) only be put back together 1 way...the proper way that is. OK.....so can any 1 comment as to how easy (or difficult) it is to successfully throw a new cone in there? It's a PSW 300 from '96.....like most here have posted.....hoping to get a decent price (is it still approx $55 direct from PA oudda CO?) as I'm on unfortunately on a fairly restrcitive financial leash.....aka a garage sale nugget leash :0 TIA!!

    Just off the phone w/Kim @ Tech Support.....gotta post how awesome support is....Kim talked me through (2 calls I made over the span of approx 15-20 mins) what the issue is...of curse he nailed it spot on simply from my explanation. Gonna send the cone out to MD asap where he says they'll fix it for free....which of course includes running it thru diagnostics b4 sending it back....I confirmed this on my 2nd follow-up call. I have to admit, after getting the cone out I was quite tempted to crazy glue the spider back myself as it does seem like a fairly straight forward job......BUT, as Kim pointed out, the spider doesn't just simply get glued back....it must be reattached in a fairly exact position....so if I were to glue it myself, it'd be quite the stroke of luck if I were to actually find & hit the proper spot. Definitely best to ship it back (insured for $200 Kim reccomends) & have it run thru diagnostics.....then I'll have my butt kicker back like new.....& I can then begin to wreak havoc w/my surrounding neighbors ;)~

    Polk Audio Tech Support.....simply put, The Best!!! Thanks again Kim for your time earlier this am & as promised, I'll let ya know just as soon as I ship the cone out to MD. Cheers!!! Rob
  • jmckay
    jmckay Posts: 4
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    ok, i am finally tackling this problem. i've got the back off and the cotton out. i removed the 6 screws from the speaker. is it glued in? i cannot remove it from the hole, it won't even budge! any advice before i hurt myself or the unit? has it just been in there so long that its sealed itself to the box?grg90lseqvdh.jpg
  • edwaud
    edwaud Posts: 1
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    My PSW300 is making the same noises as described at the beginning of this thread. It has made them for years but since it only happened with the lowest frequencies and not that often, I figured it was just something loose that I could fix myself. Of course I have not attempted to open it yet. It seems to be making the noise more frequently, perhaps because of using it more during our self isolation time.

    I purchased the sound system from a SONY store that is long gone. Likely over 20 years ago, here in Canada. I am more than willing to pay for any repair as I still like the system.

    Would it be possible to pull the electronics out and send the for testing and repair as needed?

    If it is too late for repair, which subwoofer would be recommended?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,792
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    Time for a new sub.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,906
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    Second that thought. The brands most are looking at and satisfied with are SVS, HSU, many different series in each brand for a variety of wallets and applications.
    HT SYSTEM-
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