I bought a carver M400 amp,

faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
edited October 2002 in Electronics
Ok i had posted a question about buying a carver "cube" amp the model M400 and everyone said great amp,buy it and so on, Well just thought i would update you guys and say i found one new in the box with the paper work and all, Bought and should be shipping today or tomorrow i hope, should have it next week some time. can't wait to try it out on my rears. I have the Onkyo M-504 now for the mains and plan to install this amp for the rears which need upgrading after i recover from all the amp buying ive been doing. I currently have R15's and want the RTI 28's
anyways any suggestions on the amp or hooking it to rears so on let me know, :D
MY HT RIG:
Sherwood p-965
Sherwood sd871 dvd
Rotel 1075 amp x5
LSI15 mains
LsiC center
LSIfx surround backs
Lsi7 side surrounds
SVS pb12/plus2


2 Channel Rig:

nad 1020 Pre-amp
Rotel 1080 stereo amp
Polk sda 2B
kenwood grunt Tuner
realistic lab 450 TT
Signal cable IC
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  • hoosier21hoosier21 Posts: 4,406
    edited October 2002
    Amazing, new in the box? this thing has been out of production for years, cool find.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
  • TroyDTroyD Posts: 12,321
    edited October 2002
    no kidding! WAY cool!

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited October 2002
    yeah and for a mere $220.00 which i think is the usual and up for the used ones on e-bay. Couldn't believe it!! Now for a place for it?? Im kinda cramped for room but i guess i will make a spot on the floor for it,
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • TroyDTroyD Posts: 12,321
    edited October 2002
    it's pretty small and unobtrusive, so placing it somewhere shouldn't be that much trouble.

    I was actually amazed at how small it really is.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited October 2002
    yes, Considering my "huge" M 504 is about 46lbs and 3 times the size of the carver cube. and @165 wpc versus 200 wpc with the carver, amazing really they can stuff all that power in a small cube. if nothing else my friends can be amazed at something they have never seen LOL
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • scottvampscottvamp Posts: 3,297
    edited October 2002
    I am looking at the Carver's on ebay. Want a cleaner more powerful (4ohm) amp for my HT mains. The Carver M 1.0 t Magnetic Field Reference amp is one that catches my eye. This historic amp seems to good to be true and they are going for under $300. Does anyone own or have heard this amp? Let me know!!!!!
  • AlejandroAlejandro Posts: 7
    edited October 2002
    one month ago I found at an garage sale a Carver ual-Zone Preamplifier Model C-5 with an Power Amp TFM-15 and
    a TLM.3600 10 cd Changer for 250$.
    I couldn't wait to get my hands on it,I just ran for it.
    But I cant find any information for them in internet ,
    no Carver page or user manuals,
    Do any body know where i can find some info about Carver.?
    Thanks.:rolleyes:
    My Setup:
    C-5 Dual-Zone Carver Preamp.
    Tfm-15 Carver High-Current/High-Voltage Power Amp.
    TLM-3600 10-CD Compact Disc Changer
    CDP-CE545 Sony CD Changer
    MDS-JB940 Sony Mini Disc
    RT55 Biwired Polk
    Just Stereo. Nice and real Stereo.



    It's not the music
    it's the sound.
  • George GrandGeorge Grand Posts: 12,272
    edited October 2002
    Your C-5 was manufactured till about 1993. Part of the slimline "Pro-Phile" series. THD .008, and signal to noise ratio of 95db. Hope you received the remote with it, because it came with one.

    TFM-15 100wpc @ 8 ohms. I don't believe this was one of his patented Magnetic Field amps. That, and the 60wpc TFM-6b did not warrant that technology, especially at those price points. They were fairly inexpensive as compared to everybody else's 60 and 100wpc amps. TFM-15 was manufactured until 1992.

    That's all I remember.


    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
  • jmasterjjmasterj Posts: 327
    edited October 2002
    scott.

    I owned the big brother M 1.5t back in the 80's it was awesome.
    350x2 peaked at 600x2, with dynamic headroom to 750 watts for
    short burst. If the M 1.0t is anything like it , it will blow your socks
    off. I ruled everyone who came over to listen back then. Just to
    let you know I have a TFM-35x now it's THX cert. 250x2 I like the
    Carver mag field amps.
    JmasterJ Polk to the Death
  • TroyDTroyD Posts: 12,321
    edited October 2002
    I have the m1.5t (courtesy of El Roma, the philanthropist) and the m0.5t (driving the RTA12C's also courtesy of El Roma) and love them both. I naturally concluded that the m1.0 must be equally as swell.

    I've driven the DQ's as hard as I dare and the m1.5t never even breaks a sweat.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited October 2002
    Ok so with all this talk on carver amps, My M-400 cube amp should be here thursday via UPS, can't wait to try it out as it supposed to be new or nearly new with the box and papers. I think i'm gonna stick with my RTI line for now before switching to the LSI line as thats a large chunk of cash to drop right now. I have had these for less than 4 months i think. I might just use the CC upgrade deal and get the RTI 150's later, I have asked several diff questions on amps and speakers lately and have decided i'm happy with this line up for now.
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • TroyDTroyD Posts: 12,321
    edited October 2002
    Looks like a pretty sweet setup to me!

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • faster100faster100 Posts: 6,247
    edited October 2002
    Thanks,
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • George GrandGeorge Grand Posts: 12,272
    edited October 2002
    Nice amp the M1.5t. I had one of those too for awhile. I sold it because it couldn't be bridged, and also because it couldn't be used with a Dynaco Quadaptor. I ended up getting another as a spare, but I ended up selling it to Troy. Now I keep TFM-35's and an M-500t in my closet for spares. I drive the Carver Amazing's with an M4.0t and a TFM-42. They are the EXACT same amp. After Bob Carver was forced out of his company, the new guys suffered a severe lack of engineering and design talent, so they just re-packaged some of his older designs. I use those 375wpc amps bridged to 1,000 watts, and drive an Amazing with each one. It works. I feel the M-500t and the TFM-35 are the exact same amp. I know for a fact the C-1 and C-11 preamps are exactly the same, differing in cosmetics only.

    Want to know how Bob Carver got his first infusion of working capital? It's a good story. Shall I go on?

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)
  • TroyDTroyD Posts: 12,321
    edited October 2002
    I dunno 'bout the rest but you know I am all ears......

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • hoosier21hoosier21 Posts: 4,406
    edited October 2002
    Go on Uncle Remus, tell us the story of Brer Carver
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
  • TroyDTroyD Posts: 12,321
    edited October 2002
    Reminds me of sitting around a camp fire toasting marshmellows while Dad tells stories......

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • AlejandroAlejandro Posts: 7
    edited October 2002
    Thanks George Grand for your post about my equipment dates of birth C-5 and TFM-15.
    Yes, it came with remote and books(owners manuals).

    My Setup:
    C-5 Dual-Zone Carver Preamp.
    Tfm-15 Carver High-Current/High-Voltage Power Amp.
    TLM-3600 10-CD Compact Disc Changer
    CDP-CE545 Sony CD Changer
    MDS-JB940 Sony Mini Disc
    RT55 Biwire Polk
    Just Stereo. Nice and real Stereo.
    My Setup:
    C-5 Dual-Zone Carver Preamp.
    Tfm-15 Carver High-Current/High-Voltage Power Amp.
    TLM-3600 10-CD Compact Disc Changer
    CDP-CE545 Sony CD Changer
    MDS-JB940 Sony Mini Disc
    RT55 Biwired Polk
    Just Stereo. Nice and real Stereo.



    It's not the music
    it's the sound.
  • George GrandGeorge Grand Posts: 12,272
    edited October 2002
    You're welcome. I neglected to mention the retail price for the C-5 was $499, and the TFM-15 was $429. In 1992-1993 dollars.

    THD for the TFM-15 was no greater than .5%. That was basically a Carver standard. That may look like a large number, but tests PROVE that HUMANS cannot discern thd levels of .5% and less. Those figures you see of .003% on some other big name amps are the product of using a lot of negative feedback, which is NOT a real good thing. Power into 4 ohms for the TFM-15 was 140 wpc.


    George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)


    I'll get into Bob Carver's first capital infusion at a later date. I'm getting a headache. Too much thinking causes me pain.
  • AlejandroAlejandro Posts: 7
    edited October 2002
    That price makes me a lot happier about geting a nice bargain.
    It makes my setup sound much better,I'm serius.
    I realy love it.
    Thanks again.George.
    Here in Venezuela is very hard to find components and
    if you find them they are in high prices.
    My Setup:
    C-5 Dual-Zone Carver Preamp.
    Tfm-15 Carver High-Current/High-Voltage Power Amp.
    TLM-3600 10-CD Compact Disc Changer
    CDP-CE545 Sony CD Changer
    MDS-JB940 Sony Mini Disc
    RT55 Biwired Polk
    Just Stereo. Nice and real Stereo.



    It's not the music
    it's the sound.
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