Favorite Surround movies for showing off system?

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  • crazy
    crazy Posts: 443
    edited February 2006
    OnkyoFanatic wrote:
    Crazy,

    I own the Metallica S&M DVD too and have done reviews on it; it sure does sound good for a concert, but even in its "discrete" Dolby 5.1 mode on the disc(s) I still dont think it warrants "demo" material -- demo material should be REALLY REALLY special stuff that makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up -- titles like U571, The Haunting, War of the Worlds, the Hatian crackhouse shootout in Bad Boys II....these are good examples of "wowing" effects for home theater.

    I agree with you on that.

    So what about talor made Surround Demo Disks? I read that there are a few demo discs floating around amongst members of this forum. Any ideas where one could get a demo disc - to wow guests :)

    Are there any good DEMO DVD's out there?
    Distant Dream - A New Beginning
    www.distantdream.com
    (Now also available on iTunes)
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    DTS has their own demonstration discs with clips from some of their best soundtrack-rich films. :eek:
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  • crazy
    crazy Posts: 443
    edited February 2006
    OnkyoFanatic wrote:
    DTS has their own demonstration discs with clips from some of their best soundtrack-rich films. :eek:

    Yes, I heard so but how or where can I get a copy?

    Like for example the DTS Demo Disc #10 - how can I get a copy? I guess eBay is an option.h
    Distant Dream - A New Beginning
    www.distantdream.com
    (Now also available on iTunes)
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    Yes, e bay is an option, or go to DTS' website....or do a google search on it....or you can even try CDNow.com and they might have it...
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  • BullShifter
    BullShifter Posts: 66
    edited February 2006
    Victory by Design Ferrari DTS or Dolby Digital if you like cars.
    HK AVR 335
    Polk R50 fronts
    Polk CSi25 center
    Polk R15 rear
    2 Sony modded subs with 12" Daytons
    32" Sharp Aquos
    PS2
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited February 2006
    We had those dts at circuit city(where i work) but were only for demos, i wasn't aloud to take one
    AVR: H/K AVR240
    Fronts: Monitor 50s
    Center: CSI3
    surrounds: R15s
    Sub:Velodyne DPS10
    Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
    TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
    game hardware: 360 and gcn.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited February 2006
    DTS has their own demonstration discs with clips from some of their best soundtrack-rich films.
    I just played demo disk #9 last night. It had a clip from Master and Commander, it blows the dvd out of the water (pun intended).
    Like for example the DTS Demo Disc #10 - how can I get a copy?
    #10 is going upwards of $60 on ebay.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    Ron-P wrote:
    I just played demo disk #9 last night. It had a clip from Master and Commander, it blows the dvd out of the water (pun intended).


    #10 is going upwards of $60 on ebay.

    What made it so different from the original DVD?

    Ron -- are you by any chance the Ron from Home Theater Talk?
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited February 2006
    Uncompressed dts 1536kpbs sound, 9.77mb/second vr the compressed dvds soundtrack, makes for quite a difference.

    ...and yes, I am that Ron.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    I remember our first conversations about asking me if I was a member of CLUB POLK back in those days!! ;)
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited February 2006
    Really? I kind-of remember, what's your name (or did you not go by it at HTT?).
    If...
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    Anyone else with any other demo surround suggestions we may have missed?
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  • *Seby*-Polk-
    *Seby*-Polk- Posts: 375
    edited February 2006
    What think about of "" I ROBOT """ for demostrating surround capabilities ????
    My current new system (step by step :D)

    A/V Receiver: YAMAHA RX-V657
    DVD Player: YAMAHA DVD-S657
    Main Towers: polkaudio® Monitor 50
    Wiring: NeoTecH KS1007 OFC High Definition Speaker Cable ( 2 x 2.64 mm² )
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    I never actually saw I Robot...does it have a DTS track?
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    i continue to be amazed at how DPLIIx makes DTS sound better.
    Screw DTS neo:6.

    off subject i know..
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
    Jungson MagicBoat II
    Revel Performa M-20
    Velodyne cht-10 sub
    Rega P1 Turntable

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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    i continue to be amazed at how DPLIIx makes DTS sound better.
    Screw DTS neo:6.

    off subject i know..

    As only having Pro Logic II on my receiver, not PLIIx, I always wondered how in fact that system can be used on DIGITAL signals like DTS...you can in fact override a DTS signal on the receiver with PLIIx and engage it INSTEAD of straight up DTS?
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    it doesn't override DTS, it just makes DTS um... better. Think BASF.

    I can't explain it.
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    I know you are cemented in "I can't explain it," and that's perfectly okay, but how exactly does it make DTS "better;" in other words, what is being enganged that enhances the DTS signal? Is it like adding a graphic EQ to a surround system, which I have been dying to do for ages?
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    "It makes a man, a better man. A good athlete, a super athlete by harnessing all his strength"

    seriously though.. read.
    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_1/dolby-prologic2-3-2001.html
    H/K Signature 2.1+235
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    I have seen this page before and read it thoroughly; I cant, still, find any reference to Pro Logic IIx in there...

    You know what bothers me more? How are they doing those tests with Star Trek First Contact and the like at the end of the article and switching between Dolby Digital and analog processing like Pro Logic II? Are they stopping inbetween and switching out the connections to analog RCAs?

    Nice Rocky IV reference there too.... :rolleyes:
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2006
    dplIIx faq link:
    http://www.dolby.com/consumer/technology/prologic_IIx_faq_2.html
    it just sounds good..




    'If it sounds good, it sounds good.'
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    it doesn't matter about the analog RCA's. You can put DPL IIX on top of any 5.1 or 6.1 source, digital or analog connects- doesn't matter.

    It expands a Dolby 5.1, Dolby 5.1 EX, DTS 5.1, DTS-ES matrix 5.1, and DTS-ES discrete 6.1 soundtrack into a discrete 20hz-20khz 7.1 system.

    Well thats what I wanted to know....what EXACTLY IIx DOES....it expands these 5.1 sources into a 7.1 arrangement; all the hoopla surrounding this was confusing, even from my PR people at Dolby and Digital Theater Systems....also, I was referring to the site's review of the Star Trek title using PRO LOGIC II and possibly swapping out RCAs and DIGITAL connections, not IIX...
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited February 2006
    I used to have a six speaker setup and used DDEX and DTSes but took it down because there only a handful of 6.1 and no 7.1 movies out there. I don't want the reciever matrix the two back speakers. doesn't sound right( for my ears)
    AVR: H/K AVR240
    Fronts: Monitor 50s
    Center: CSI3
    surrounds: R15s
    Sub:Velodyne DPS10
    Dvd/Cd: Samsung HD upconverter (for now)
    TV: 50" Sammy Plasma
    game hardware: 360 and gcn.
    Gamertag: kovster27
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited February 2006
    I did the same thing tommyboy. I did not like the way my pre/pro matrixed the speakers with 5.1 material so I wired it back to a 5.1 set-up. To be honest, even with 6.1 encoded material the difference was not a big deal.

    I still run all the speakers, I use "Y" splitters off the pre/pro and run that to the amps so I can use the additional speakers. Works and sounds great.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    Indeed....I have a six-channel decoder/amp (receiver) that is DTS ES and DD EX capable, but I dont run the sixth speaker because of room setup and software availability. Gladiator must sound awesome with the sixth channel in DTS ES though..... :eek:
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited February 2006
    OnkyoFanatic wrote:
    Indeed....I have a six-channel decoder/amp (receiver) that is DTS ES and DD EX capable, but I dont run the sixth speaker because of room setup and software availability. Gladiator must sound awesome with the sixth channel in DTS ES though..... :eek:

    Heck yeah! Every DTS movie sounds great with that 6th channel. I have tried it both ways, and I can cut off the surround back from the Onkyo. Big difference in sound. My room is long (23ft), and the 6th channel is always on.
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    landry_p2000 wrote:
    Heck yeah! Every DTS movie sounds great with that 6th channel. I have tried it both ways, and I can cut off the surround back from the Onkyo. Big difference in sound. My room is long (23ft), and the 6th channel is always on.

    Interesting Landry....my room is huge, too, with some 15 feet from the TV/audio gear stack to the sweet spot, and I still havent found the need for that sixth channel; my room and specifications are not ideal, though...my surrounds are up in the cathedral ceiling, nine feet above the sweet spot, so adding a sixth channel somewhere would be difficult, as the couch is against the wall...
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited February 2006
    OnkyoFanatic wrote:
    Interesting Landry....my room is huge, too, with some 15 feet from the TV/audio gear stack to the sweet spot, and I still havent found the need for that sixth channel; my room and specifications are not ideal, though...my surrounds are up in the cathedral ceiling, nine feet above the sweet spot, so adding a sixth channel somewhere would be difficult, as the couch is against the wall...

    Oh, now I see. My seating is in the middle of the HT room, and the only reason I can use the 6th channel is because this room is mine to do whatever I want to do. (Evil Laugh) Buhuhuhuhahahaha! She doesn't care what I do, as long as I stay in my room, and out of her living room and dining room. :D
    It wouldn't make sense to use it, because it will go over your head anyway.
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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  • OnkyoFanatic
    OnkyoFanatic Posts: 68
    edited February 2006
    I hear ya....those are ideal conditions for adding a sixth channel....the listening spot in the middle of a room! :eek:
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited February 2006
    You ever thought about an in-wall speaker?
    Main Set-up: 55" 120 hz Samsung LN55B650, Onkyo TX-SR806, Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva XPA-2, PS3 Slim, Sony BDP-S560, Apple TV (160g), Panamax M5300-PM, Polk Audio CSi5, RTi10's, FXi3's, RTi4's, and SVS PB12 Plus

    Bedroom: Panasonic 50" S2 Plasma and Panasonic BD65 blu-ray player, Onkyo TX-SR707, Emotiva XPA-3, Emotiva UPA-2, KEF IQ7's, IQc, IQ8Ds, and SVS PB10-ISD
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