"Bi-Wiring" Your Powered Towers: The Definitive Reference

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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,321
    edited July 2002
    I said my peace 500x over about this.......I say hook them up anyway you want.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • Devildog
    Devildog Posts: 68
    edited July 2002
    Hi everyone,
    Been gone a couple of months but just reading this thread makes me feel a little like when "Flounder" was pledging in Animal House and he looked at the table of cigar smoking upperclassmen and said "You guys playin' poker?" Makes me sort of wish there was an annual National Polk Convention where we could all get together in person and talk about bi-wiring and stuff. Well, back to my meds. Rick
    The Revolution will not be televised.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited July 2002
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

    Animal House, GREAT reference!

    No, it's nothing like that. Goodness, it's not like we are designing rocket ships or trying to split the atom or anything. I think folks are just trying to make it more complicated than it really is.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,321
    edited July 2002
    Then why so many posts
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited July 2002
    Because your skull is as thick as nuclear bunker man (on this topic, if not many others), jesus h christ.....

    -R
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • cgravil
    cgravil Posts: 101
    edited July 2002
    Originally posted by johnnyamerika
    Nothing's changed since I've been gone, huh....

    er um yeah what he said.


    Clay,
    Driver of the short bus
    but gosh darned it it's got Tinted windows and lot's of thump supplied by polk/momo audio.
    The probibility of someone watching you is directly related to the stupidity of the action in question.:eek:
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  • HUNTER
    HUNTER Posts: 78
    edited August 2002
    I can't sit still without making a comment.
    Mantis is correct you can biwire the Polk powered tower, I know because I have done it with my rt3000ps.

    Mantis,
    Russman is an idiot that has no positive or informative information. His sole purpose is to make smartass comments.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited August 2002
    Oh, go back to your playdoh Hunter, have you called Polk Audio and straight up asked them? I have. You CAN bi-wire the 3000's if so desired, you CANNOT bi-wire the 1000, or 2000 model. Care to read the manual? Perhaps that would be *too* simple for you to grasp.

    Such bitterness, I must have really hurt your delicate, super-sensitive, that-time-of-the-month feelings in the past....so sorry....

    Idiot? Was it you or me that thought the RT800 had a non-functioning power port? I can pull some past posts, if you'd like to see more 'idocracies'. The list is long and distinguished, just let me know cocheese.

    Cheers Hunter's biggest fan,
    Russ

    PS:
    Made any custom injection molded baffles recently? ;)
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • nascarmann
    nascarmann Posts: 1,464
    edited August 2002
    Made any custom injection molded baffles recently?

    Do what....:confused:
    Oh, the bottle has been to me, my closes friend, my worse enemy!
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  • Aaron
    Aaron Posts: 1,853
    edited August 2002
    You CAN bi-wire the 3000's if so desired, you CANNOT bi-wire the 1000, or 2000 model.
    Hunter, what Russ says is correct.

    Aaron
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,321
    edited August 2002
    Hunter,
    thats cool dude.Just wire your speakers anyway you want,if it sounds better then go with it....I rest on this.

    GEE EVERYONE SAYS I CAN'T LET THIS SUBJECT GO.......I HAVE BUT SEEMS LIKE OTHERS CAN'T
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited August 2002
    OK, Hunter....Aaron, Russ, myself and Ken Swauger have all laid out in different places how biwiring works and why you can't biwire the RT1000's and RT2000's.

    So, why don't you enlighten us on exactly why you CAN biwire them (and just because there are two sets of binding post to plug them into is NOT the right answer)

    Jeezus, I'm about as ingnorant and non-technical as you can get but the theory here isn't very hard to grasp. All you need is a BASIC understanding of how a crossover works and it is pretty simple.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,321
    edited August 2002
    This post just won't go away........bi wiring...........who cares.
    Powered Towers????Everyone who is arguing about you can't even do it........I just wonder only one thing??????Now a given on your side of the fence on this one..have any one of you actually heard the powered towers wired one way compared to the other ways?
    It really doesn't matter to me anymore but for those still trying to find the best way and advice on how to wire them for best performance might want a clear understanding on this ever going subject.
    I have nothing more to say about powered towers.....they are what they are.......past experience for me.......................
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited August 2002
    Well, hearing it really has nothing to do with it. So a speaker level connection sounded better, ok, thats GREAT. They are not bi-wired.

    A clear understanding for other people? How is that going to happen when we have a 'professional' that can't grasp this simple topic?

    I'm sick of re-hashing this one also, but if you (anyone) plays the **** card, you're gonna get called on it.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,321
    edited August 2002
    If your sick of it dude,
    STOP POSTING ABOUT IT........you don't own them.....why do you care so much........

    Why is it you always have to throw my job in my face......I completely understand what /why /how/how to build my own/ bi wiring is.......I could care less about this topic anymore.......I moved on......but instead of bashing /lashing out all the time.....give some pointers on what you think or have experiened with the powered towers......there are many people in here who have them.
    RUSS YOU CAN CALL IT ANYTHING YOU WANT......if it's not TRUE BIWIRNING who cares..........if it works.............
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,321
    edited August 2002
    Pissed me off man,
    LOOK FOR THE EFFIN VERY LAST TIME.....................YOU CAN RUN 2 PAIRS OF SPEAKER WIRES FROM A SINGLE AMP TO SEND SPEAKER LEVEL SIGNAL TO THE POWERED TOWERS.

    YOU CAN GO BUY A BI WIRE SET OF SPEAKER WIRES AND USE THEM FOR CLEAN INSTALL AND FOR BETTER SOUND.......

    Russ have you done this experience BOY.....NO...then shut your mouth on this and let it go.
    YES I'M A PROFESSIONAL....ARE YOU JEALOUS?????
    LEAVE ME ALONE ABOUT IT.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,321
    edited August 2002
    These post are intended for Russman alone...no offence to anyone else on this forum..including you TroyD.

    Russ..........Got experience in powered towers to share with all of us uneducated people????
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • Aaron
    Aaron Posts: 1,853
    edited August 2002
    This post just won't go away........bi wiring...........who cares.
    STOP POSTING ABOUT IT........you don't own them.....why do you care so much........
    The point is that we're trying to fight ignorance here. Ensuring that the information posted on this forum is accurate is very important. By saying that you can bi-wire the RT1000 and RT2000 you are spreading inaccurate information and confussing other members.

    Aaron
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited August 2002
    Agreed Aaron.

    It's mis-information Dan. You even admitted to me on aim that they were not bi-wired, by definition of the term. Yes, yes yes, you can run 2 wires to the speaker, yes yes yes, you can even use a pre-designed 'bi-wire' cable, but the speakers themselves CANNOT be bi-wired.

    Hey, you remind us of your professional status constantly, I'm just calling you what you seem to want to be called. Dude, this ain't personal, fact is a fact in this case.

    No I haven't owned (only demoed) any of the Polk powered tower models, and I never argued that the results you heard using a speaker (high) level connection sounded better. I can however read, at least at a 6th grade level, which I believe the manuals are written at. There are also pretty pictures to look at, if one is so inclined.

    If I was to make a comment, on say, a video connection, that was TOTALLY incorrect, not something that is an opinion, but a fact. Would you not jump in and try to set the record straight every single time? Would it not bother you that I was giving incorrect information, or using an incorrect term, in giving advice to others? As passionate as you are, I know you would jump in, and argue the FACTS.

    That's all thats being done here Dan, with a little added spice on occasion.....

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • nascarmann
    nascarmann Posts: 1,464
    edited August 2002
    I can however read, at least at a 6th grade level, which I believe the manuals are written at. There are also pretty pictures to look at, if one is so inclined.

    Funny stuff brotha.....:lol:
    Oh, the bottle has been to me, my closes friend, my worse enemy!
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  • HUNTER
    HUNTER Posts: 78
    edited August 2002
    The definition of "Bi" refers to two, or Russmans sexuality. Mantis is using two pair of wires for his rt1000s one set to the amp and one set to the tweet and mid, not a true bi-wire but bi-wiring none the less.

    Hey Nascarman,
    The injection molds for the ringdome mounts work fine, thank you very much, check out the pictures.

    Russman,
    Since you have no social life, go ahead post my statement about the rt800is and you and others will see that I did not state that the ports were non-fuctional but that I had my doubts and once I pulled the driver I found that the dampning material had fallin down over the port tube reducing the air flow from the speaker I was testing.
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  • nascarmann
    nascarmann Posts: 1,464
    edited August 2002
    The injection molds for the ringdome mounts work fine, thank you very much, check out the pictures.

    Don't know why you are "thank you very much'ing me".....I didn't know what the muck that meant.....WHAT MUCKING PICTURES

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH :rolleyes:
    Oh, the bottle has been to me, my closes friend, my worse enemy!
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited August 2002
    Bi sexual? No social life? Well chew on this, I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me, and sticks to you!!

    Thanks for backing me on my point on your last post, muchas gracias. Gosh, I can picture you steaming away, mad as hell, sitting at your pc, just as red as a mater'. It's interesting how I can pull your strings, and how much it bothers you....

    Stick around this time Hunter, I don't want the phrase " He hunter'd it up good" to loose its meaning.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited August 2002
    You handled that exceptionally well Russman!

    Damn, now were calling each other names!

    I better be carefull
    ***WAREMTAE***
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited August 2002
    I know, thank you, thank you very much, I feel every bit of 4 years old right now.....

    Anyone up for a game of 4-square or Tether-ball?

    Cheers,
    Russ (the bi-sexual, anti-social, smartass idiot)
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited August 2002
    I'll bring the Beer, start with a caig and a bottle of Jack!
    ***WAREMTAE***
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited August 2002
    OK, so, lemme just get the straight.......

    It's ok to call running a biwire cable to RT1000's (or 2000's) biwiring........but it's not OK to call a TV/VCR and a 2ch rig a Home Theater.

    Glad I got that cleared up....

    You can PAY for stuff this good I tell ya.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • HUNTER
    HUNTER Posts: 78
    edited August 2002
    Hey Russman,
    I would appreciate it if you would use my name as much as possible, and use it in the most sarcastic tone as possible. The more you speak the more people will relize how simple you really are.

    Nascarman,
    Pardon me if I misinterpeted your questions about the injection molding for the mounting bezzels on the ring domes; to find pictures do a search on a thread by me called " Building the ultimate polk based center channel speaker.

    For the rest,
    I think some of use are getting tired of being slammed for everything we say whether it be write or wrong. If you don't agree with someone elses advice then don't use it! If you have information to the contrary then state it! If you fill the need to blast someone then look in the mirror because there is the guy who probably needs it the most.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited August 2002
    Use? Write or wrong? tee hee

    Ok, maybe a little slam was involved here, sure, but it was a 2-way street all the way. Am I wrong with this post? Have I stated anything incorrect? I thought you agreed with me, more or less, just a couple posts back.....

    I'm sure some hate me, some love me, but I tell it like I see it. Good ole' 1st amendment rights eh... if you don't like it, guess what, you don't have to read it.....

    I guess maybe some people (like myself) pour on the heat a little too much, but I also think some people take themselves WAY too seriously, and have their sensitivity turned up a bit..... Perhaps that combo together is volatile, eh?

    But like I said before, if you play the BS card, and post some ignorant ****, you are going to get called on it.....whether it's me or not.....(and I would expect the same from you).

    Tell ya what, I'll try to post civil, and to the point, on your posts, with my opinion, or thoughts only. How'd that be? Regardless of whether you like me, love me, want to kick me in the ballbag, I really wouldn't want it to keep you from enjoying this fine forum....

    Basically, I'll try to kick it down a couple notches on your posts, fair enough? Now quit lurking, and get to posting. ;)

    Like a fat girl in a dodgeball game, I'm out.....time to get my drink on....

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,321
    edited August 2002
    Russman and Troyd..and the rest,
    Everyone has posted there opnions on all of this......call a truce.....I'm going 2.

    The end of Powered Tower's.....Wiring them.....
    using pre made bi wires or 2 single speaker wires of your choice,I'm not going to argue the point if they are a term used or not,but they do sound better wired the term way then every other way.This is my experience with them and any powered tower owners are more then welcome to discuss anything they want with me about them.
    As far as all of you non powered tower owners...please stay out of the posts...they don't have any meaning to you...unless your planning on buying them and want to do it.If thats the case....I might know someone who is looking for a happy buyer for a good clean well taken care of powered towers and a really good price.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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