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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    Ok so we've established that the USPS is a pretty good way to send stuff. They even have the option of certified mail to ensure delivery.

    So back to the original question. Where's our money Scott?!?!
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,432
    edited June 2002
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    Any updates guys?? I would like to know how this comes out.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    Nothing yet. I had gotten an email early last week saying that he sent a check, never got it. I gave one last chance to send something via western union, certified mail, or some other way to verify that something was sent. I got the 4th or 5th email saying he's sending the sub. I'm expecting a UPS or FedEx tracking number tomorrow. If I don't get it then I'm gonna have to call my lawyer, and his local authorities.

    Sux that things have to get this way. If I get it then I'll let y'all know. If not... then we'll see how things go.
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  • weavercr
    weavercr Posts: 289
    edited June 2002
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    Use a postal money order and mail it. No goods or refund = mail fraud. The post office takes this very serious. Turn it over to them and they will pursue it and do all the work for you.
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    I just got an email from Scott with a UPS tracking number saying that the sub was shipped. I'm finally a happy man (at least will be once I recieve the sub in like new condition as it was advertised)

    It seems like Scott is really trying to make good on things. Now lets see if the other two people that he owes get their goods.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited June 2002
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    bout FREAKIN time......

    still does little to redeem his rep though

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,985
    edited June 2002
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    There are other peeps still waiting....

    -R
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    Originally posted by RuSsMaN
    There are other peeps still waiting....

    -R

    Dur. Do y'all even read my posts?

    Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh. :p
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited June 2002
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    ahhhh....don't worry about Russ, he is flustered at the prospect of a female on the forum....

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    Originally posted by TroyD
    ahhhh....don't worry about Russ, he is flustered at the prospect of a female on the forum....

    BDT

    Agreed. I think it's about damn time. Hopefully she'll miss the "Rub...." posts and stick around.
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  • Billm57
    Billm57 Posts: 689
    edited June 2002
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    Originally posted by phuz
    I just got an email from Scott with a UPS tracking number saying that the sub was shipped. I'm finally a happy man (at least will be once I recieve the sub in like new condition as it was advertised)

    It seems like Scott is really trying to make good on things. Now lets see if the other two people that he owes get their goods.
    after he said that he sent you a check too??? sounds like he lied the first time about tthen...good luck
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    Originally posted by Billm57

    after he said that he sent you a check too??? sounds like he lied the first time about tthen...good luck

    Maybe, but this time I have a tracking number so by this evening or tomorrow morning at the latest, I'll be able to tell if he's lying. At this point I believe him because he provided a tracking number - and he knows what the consequences are if he's lying again.
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  • caseymou
    caseymou Posts: 327
    edited June 2002
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    well, anything yet???
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    I just got the psw-250 about two hours ago, been playing with it ever since. :)

    It wasn't quite in the condition that Scott had said it was in, but it's not in bad shape either. I guess it's worth what I paid.

    So yes, after uhm... 6 or 8 weeks and a big hassle I finally got it. Thanks.
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  • wangotango68
    wangotango68 Posts: 1,056
    edited June 2002
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    original box and packing meterial, not a scratch on it, what the **** do you want? right off the assembly line?


    scott:cool:
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited June 2002
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    Gee, Scott, considering the hassle you put folks through, I thought phuz was pretty charitable in his description.

    So much for deleting that profile, eh?

    Troy
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,985
    edited June 2002
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    Seems like Scott may want to look into some anger managment courses, along with his money management courses....

    -R
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    Scott chill out. You said "mint condition" - it isn't mint. There are a couple of small scuffs on it, and the cardboard on the surround portion of the sub is coming off. It *is* in "good" condition, but not "mint." Maybe it happened in shipping, but I doubt it. Maybe you don't know what "mint" condition means, who knows. For future reference, "mint" basically means brand new - pretty much right of the assembly line.

    I don't mean to nit pick, I'm just being honest. I wouldn't have even brought it up if you had taken care of this in a timely efficient manner but now I'm just laying my full experience out on the table to warn anyone else. I think that's fair.

    As I said before, I don't mean to be slanderous... just honest. I'm typically a nice, passive guy who lets a LOT slide - but I never lay down and take it up the rear with no vaseline. So if I can help keep someone else from having the same experience that I had... then I'll do it. Sorry, but I'm sure everyone will agree that it's fair. Deal with it, just like I've delt with you trying to get my subwoofer for the last 6 or 8 weeks.

    I'm happy now that I have it. No big deal. Chill out, have a beer, stfu, and man up to any future deals (as well as the past ones that you still owe). It's that simple.
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    Originally posted by phuz
    I guess it's worth what I paid.


    Here let me rephrase that.

    "Yes, it's deffinately worth what I paid if not more. It's in better shape than any 'floor model' that I've ever seen and I got it for less that CC asks for their floor models!"

    Better?
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,985
    edited June 2002
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    Still doesn't change the fact that wango is acting like a ****...... Eff him Phuz.

    -R
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    You Eff him Russ, I don't swing that way. :D
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,985
    edited June 2002
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    Badda-bing, very nice.... ;)

    -R
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited June 2002
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    ed zachry....and then comes on and cops a 'tude?? ****, phuz got a lot more charity then I got.....

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited June 2002
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    I'd have to agree with phuz....
    mint means right off the assembly line without a scratch.
    Dust and finger oil are ok for mint - as, that will clean up to mint.

    The term "mint" comes from coin collecting.
    A mint coin is better than normal production.
    It has the pristine honor of never being touched with human hands. A mint coin is encased in plastic so that it can not oxidize.
    Mint is better than new. Mint means the exterior box from Polk looks brand spank'n new - not even scuffed by UPS.

    Mint is the best of the lot of speakers off the production line.
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  • Linda
    Linda Posts: 23
    edited June 2002
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    Being new to this forum this kinda scares me. Did you ever get your money back or the equipment. What is the safest way to purchase off of this forum? Should I be just looking at buying equipment in driving distance of my home?
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,985
    edited June 2002
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    I would say search threads in the Flea mrkt from the seller, and email people that have completed transactions...

    For the most part, everyone here is straight forward, and honest.... Never be afraid to ask for references.... A good seller will have them, and happy buyers will endorse them...

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited June 2002
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    Originally posted by Linda
    Being new to this forum this kinda scares me. Did you ever get your money back or the equipment. What is the safest way to purchase off of this forum? Should I be just looking at buying equipment in driving distance of my home?

    Russ said it best. Don't worry too much. This is really just a few isolated incidents with one particular seller. I would say that 99% of the people around here are good people.

    Search the forums, and ask for references. Even ebay is risky, but millions of people take that risk every day, and 99% of them work out great.

    Welcome to the forum. :)
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  • flason
    flason Posts: 278
    edited June 2002
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    61 days and still nothing. I sent an e-mail with my address again, and Scott told me I e-mailed the wrong address(it was 10 streets off). I did have my address on the envelope I sent as well as written on the money order and there isn't an 1121 on 22nd ave, just on my street, 32nd ave. The mail goes through the same mail station, and the mail handlers know me too (I use to work at that station). But I will still give Scott the benifit of the doubt and chalk it up to my mistake by fat fingering my keyboard. How 'bout it Scott? I will take responsibility for my mistake and I will apologize if thats what it takes to get my money. I have e-mailed you since the 11th without response!

    Linda, I firmly believe that Phuz and my transaction are the exception and not the rule on this board. This is a mostly great group of people that like to talk audio and a little smack every now and again. They have been very supportave to me in my efforts to retrieve my money and I wanted to say Thanks to all.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2002
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    Scott,
    A contact at least would be nice.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • weavercr
    weavercr Posts: 289
    edited June 2002
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    Linda

    I have made dealings with two sellers on this forum, criverajr and Peterng.

    Both experiences went great. The items were as described.
    From what I have seen in this forum, The norm is good dealings.
    All of the good dealings go unnoticed, the Bad few gets lots of notice.
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