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flason
flason Posts: 278
edited August 2002 in Flea Market
Even when you think you know someone on this board, beware. After several mailings asking about the equipment, I sent a check for $352 on April 17th to wangotango68, aka Scott Trigg, for the Carver amp he was selling on this board. I trusted him not only because of his speedy replies, but because he had 600 posts on this board, prior selling on the board, and folks bustin' his balls (joking around with him). He said it took a week for the check to arrive, so I took the delivery delay with no suspicion. He then said he was driving his truck again so he delayed a week to send the piece. He then said while he was packing the amp, his wife told him not to sell the amp and he would send me a refund. He said he sent a check to me on May 11th and I have been e-mailing him every few days inquiring about the money. Last mailing came back to me as undeliverable. Looks like he closed his account. To say I'm a little pissed is an understatement. I hate getting ripped off. The money wont kill me but I still am a single father raising 2 kids on my own and the only thing I get from the ex is a rash of crap.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited May 2002
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    I feel your pain. TRUST NO ONE!!!!!!;)
    I thought this guy was crediable--he had alot of
    friends on this site. Bummer :eek:
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  • wodom1
    wodom1 Posts: 1,054
    edited May 2002
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    Didn't George have similar problems with this guy?
    "I got into the music business thinking it was really radical, that it wasn't really a business at all, that it was a lot of people being artistic and creative. Not true, and it made me very depressed."

    Thom Yorke of Radiohead

    SOPA. Bow down before me, ****. Want a cookie?


    Polk Audio LSi15
    Polk Audio LSiC
    Polk Audio FXi30
    Samsung LN-T4061F 40" 1080P LCD HDTV
    Sony Playstation 3
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    Rotel 985 MK II
    Rotel 1072 CDP
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  • flason
    flason Posts: 278
    edited May 2002
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    I've delt with another person from this board and Tyrone Thompson is great people. He was honest and shipped before my check even arrived to him. I feel that a lot of other people on this board have the same qualities of Tyrone. Unfortunately, Scott doesn't appear to be one of those people. I gotta hope that this is just a giant misunderstanding and my money could still arrive, but 6 weeks later and no e-mail, I gotta wake up and smell the coffee.
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  • wodom1
    wodom1 Posts: 1,054
    edited May 2002
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    has your check been cashed? if it hasn't why don't you call your bank and cancel it?
    "I got into the music business thinking it was really radical, that it wasn't really a business at all, that it was a lot of people being artistic and creative. Not true, and it made me very depressed."

    Thom Yorke of Radiohead

    SOPA. Bow down before me, ****. Want a cookie?


    Polk Audio LSi15
    Polk Audio LSiC
    Polk Audio FXi30
    Samsung LN-T4061F 40" 1080P LCD HDTV
    Sony Playstation 3
    Outlaw Model 990 Pre/Pro
    Rotel 985 MK II
    Rotel 1072 CDP
    Soundstage Vacuum II tube pre
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  • Aaron
    Aaron Posts: 1,853
    edited May 2002
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    Didn't George have similar problems with this guy?
    Yes.

    Aaron
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited May 2002
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    George had the exact same thing happen with the exact same amp........

    Troy
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,985
    edited May 2002
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    George did get his money back though, didn't he?

    Man up Scott, do the right thing, and do it soon.

    -R
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited May 2002
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    I'm sure its all a big misunderstanding.
    I bought a pair of Monitor 10's off Scott without any problems.
    Hoosier21, Russ, has sold/bought/traded many Polk speakers with Scott also. I've met him. He seems like a nice enough fellow. I'm sure he's just very busy.
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  • OrangeToupee
    OrangeToupee Posts: 488
    edited May 2002
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    I knew that guy was lame, but not THAT lame ... what a pud.

    Go after him, I certainly would, it would become my life's obsession.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,985
    edited May 2002
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    I know this doesn't fix anything, but wodom1, I have an Carver m200t I might be able to work with you on (cheap-cheap), if need be. I don't want to give it away, I don't even want to sell it period, but if it turns out you have taken a loss already, I can absorb some with you, you seem like a decent guy.....

    Hopefully we will see Scott do the right thing here.......

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • wodom1
    wodom1 Posts: 1,054
    edited May 2002
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    huh? i didn't take the loss, that was Flason, but I appreciate the thought!;)

    by the way, how and when did you're status change to "mouskateer?"
    "I got into the music business thinking it was really radical, that it wasn't really a business at all, that it was a lot of people being artistic and creative. Not true, and it made me very depressed."

    Thom Yorke of Radiohead

    SOPA. Bow down before me, ****. Want a cookie?


    Polk Audio LSi15
    Polk Audio LSiC
    Polk Audio FXi30
    Samsung LN-T4061F 40" 1080P LCD HDTV
    Sony Playstation 3
    Outlaw Model 990 Pre/Pro
    Rotel 985 MK II
    Rotel 1072 CDP
    Soundstage Vacuum II tube pre
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  • briancs
    briancs Posts: 193
    edited May 2002
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    Russ that is VERY cool of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Oh yeah on a side note I'm drunk :D:D:D:D:D
    The guy with $40.00 mains and a $700.00 subwoofer.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,985
    edited May 2002
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    ****, I'm drunk too, but the offer stands FLASON.

    -R

    (Mousekateer goes way back to the begining of the forum, I suggested to Justin that Micah's 'rank' be changed to 'General Lackey' from 'The Writer', so Micah changed mine....now I carry the scarlet letter.....)

    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,432
    edited May 2002
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    Scott has changed his mind before, and now he has again, but I don't think he has ever taken money.

    Damn his wife really loves that amp.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • Micah Cohen
    Micah Cohen Posts: 2,022
    edited May 2002
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    Okay, folks. Mike just brought this to my attention and I just emailed Scott to see if something could be done. I thought Scott was a pretty good guy, but I can see I may have been wrong. Mike, please keep this thread updated on the story and let us know what happens. Scott, man, play nice with us, won't you?

    Caveat emptor. Sorry for the hassle here.

    MC
    ultramicah@yahoo.com

    "There's nothing funny about a clown in the moonlight." - Lon Chaney
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited May 2002
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    Scott has changed his mind before, and now he has again, but I don't think he has ever taken money.

    >>> Good equipment is difficult to part with - believe me, I know.
    (As polk sda seems to play a major part of the decor in my home).

    Damn his wife really loves that amp.

    >>> Can you blame her? I am sure Scott knows enough to TRY to keep his woman happy. Note: this is often (generalized) a nearly impossible task - but, like good audio, continual tweaking and experimentation yield the best results.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited May 2002
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    I don't know if George actually ever got the check back.....he stopped payment on it.


    Troy
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • Aaron
    Aaron Posts: 1,853
    edited May 2002
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    No matter how you slice it, there's no excuse for this. It's been nearly a month and a half (exactly 41 days). He could have driven the freakin' amp across the country and back by now and still had time to take a vacation.

    Aaron
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  • flason
    flason Posts: 278
    edited May 2002
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    I was keeping hope alive, but that has disappated now that my e-mail comes back as undeliverable. I really appreciate your offer Russ and will consider it. It's the good people here that really make this board worthwhile. Thats what keeps me, even though I don't post as often as I should, coming back. Thanks to all for the support.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,432
    edited May 2002
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    Aaron I am not making excuses for him, (did I?), I am not the happiest camper right now with Scott, but that is my problem.

    Scott has a new email address v10roar@msn.com, not sure what one you have.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • flason
    flason Posts: 278
    edited May 2002
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    That was the address I sent to. I replied to a past message he sent to me. When it did come back as undeliverable it said "v10roar@hotmail.msn.com"
    Here is the message, but not in entirty as it is much to long.

    This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
    Delivery to the following recipients failed.
    v10roar@hotmail.msn.com
    Attachment: Message/delivery-status
    Reporting-MTA: dns;hotmail.com
    Received-From-MTA: dns;cpimssmtpa09.msn.com
    Arrival-Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 10:43:24 -0700
    Final-Recipient: rfc822;v10roar@hotmail.msn.com
    Action: failed
    Status: 5.2.3
    Attachment: Forwarded Message
    Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 10:42:34 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Michael Barry" <flason1@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Amp
    To: "scott trigg" <v10roar@msn.com>
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited May 2002
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    V10roar@msn.com was a good e-mail address on May 10th.
    We had e-mail'd regarding the "Matt Polk Meet"
    on that date.
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  • caseymou
    caseymou Posts: 327
    edited May 2002
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    I just met with Scott and his wife on Sunday. He hand delivered the SDA's he'd just sold me. No problem here. I have to admit, at first I was suspicious because I called and emailed and got no replys. He finally called and explained he was busy with work. Just my opinion for what it's worth. By the way, he is in Ft. Wayne and I am west of Indianapolis. (about a 2 1/2 hour drive)
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  • caseymou
    caseymou Posts: 327
    edited May 2002
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    I also have his phone # at home if you need it.
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  • flason
    flason Posts: 278
    edited May 2002
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    I just might take you up on that phone #. If you search my posts, I never said a bad word about Scott. I am sure your transaction was the norm with him and mine was the exception. I do question his integrity with THIS transaction, but there has been no name calling. He said in a past e-mail to me that he never would screw over anybody. But since I haven't heard from him nor have I seen the check he was suppose to have sent on May 11th, I have to wonder what happened. I would really feel like crap if he was hospitalized, but since you saw him on Sunday I'm guessing thats not the case.
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  • caseymou
    caseymou Posts: 327
    edited May 2002
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    I'll get that to you as soon as I can (from home).
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited May 2002
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    I have been waiting patiently to hear from Scott regarding a PSW-250 for which which I sent $145 (money order) about 6 weeks ago. Several times I have heard him say "I'll send it on Monday" - he's used the same driving excuse with me. I know that it doesn't take this long to drop something off to be shipped no matter what your job is.

    I had planned on waiting a bit more before I brought this to the board, but since it's being done already...... heh.

    Whoever has his phone number, if you could please email it to me at phuz@txraves.org I would greatly appreciate it.

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  • caseymou
    caseymou Posts: 327
    edited May 2002
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    flason,

    I have his # now. Email me or leave your email address because I don't wish to post on public board. I already gave it to the other individual who requested.

    I should restate my postition just in case:
    I don't wish to be caught in the middle of a witchhunt. I am only providing #'s because I would hope anyone would do this for me if I was in this situation. I don't wish any disrespect for Scott, as far as I am concerned he is on the up and up.
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  • flason
    flason Posts: 278
    edited May 2002
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    I really don't consider this a witchhunt. I have mail supporting the fact that he received the money, as well as the receipt for the money order, and that he supposedly mailed me a check on 5-11. It looks like he is in to me and phuz for almost $500. I don't want to put you in the middle of this thing, but you offered the number. I hope this won't jepordize your friendship with Scott. This wouldn't be my intention. I would have hoped that bringing this up to the board would light a fire under his feet and get him to steppin' (mailing) with the money.
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  • wangotango68
    wangotango68 Posts: 1,056
    edited May 2002
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    your money was sent when i said it was, why you have not got
    it is beyond me. we don't get some of our incoming mail sometimes also, so ill wright you another check and send it out.

    and to aeron in texas your money is coming your way also, im done selling anything anymore on this forum or anywere else.


    p.s. justin please deleat wangotango68 from the club polk files
    as i will not be posting here anymore.

    scott:cool:
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