Speaker Jumpers
mantis
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What's up everyone,
So Lets talk about speaker factory jumpers. Most people throw them right in the trash and use speaker wire terminated in Spade or Banana jacks right? Hardly no one is buying I wiring or bi amping there speakers, maybe some but mostly not.
Ok so if the jumpers are copper built with a gold plating , what is the actual difference with the jumpers compared to the speaker cable and spade or banana jacks? Have anyone thought about this? Think about IF your banana jack or spade connector is built from gold plate copper what is the actual difference here?
Is it a visual thing? I can see if the jumpers are built out of lesser quality material like tin or brass , makes sense to replace them with something better but if the manufacturer made them out of copper and plated them with gold to protect them, then what are you actually gaining?
I never thought about this up until now. I always just did what everyone else usually does , throw those jumpers in the box or trash and replace with a custom built or bought jumper.
So Lets talk about speaker factory jumpers. Most people throw them right in the trash and use speaker wire terminated in Spade or Banana jacks right? Hardly no one is buying I wiring or bi amping there speakers, maybe some but mostly not.
Ok so if the jumpers are copper built with a gold plating , what is the actual difference with the jumpers compared to the speaker cable and spade or banana jacks? Have anyone thought about this? Think about IF your banana jack or spade connector is built from gold plate copper what is the actual difference here?
Is it a visual thing? I can see if the jumpers are built out of lesser quality material like tin or brass , makes sense to replace them with something better but if the manufacturer made them out of copper and plated them with gold to protect them, then what are you actually gaining?
I never thought about this up until now. I always just did what everyone else usually does , throw those jumpers in the box or trash and replace with a custom built or bought jumper.
Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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I use biwired speaker cables with speakers that have two sets of binding posts to avoid the jumper issue altogether. At least that's what I say.
I've always thought it a gimmick to have two sets of binding posts on run of the mill home speakers. They're not needed in almost all cases. -
I use biwired speaker cables with speakers that have two sets of binding posts to avoid the jumper issue altogether. At least that's what I say.
I've always thought it a gimmick to have two sets of binding posts on run of the mill home speakers. They're not needed in almost all cases.
Same, I have biwired speaker cables in my 2 channel set-up, my HT I just leave the jumpers, because I don’t care there..🤣
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Most played jumpers from the factory are gold plated brass, not copper- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Also biwire cables are just really long jumpers, just saying- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Also biwire cables are just really long jumpers, just saying
Depends how they were made...I made a custom DIY set of bi-wire shotgun cables with Nanotec Golden Strada and I essentially made them with a built in jumpers that were soldered together inside of the first pair of spades.
Not the best aesthetically, but they sound great. I used this set with my SS-M9 for about 10 years. I went with something different when I brought the Revels home.
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Eh maybe if there's different wire top and bottom maybe... Maybe. It all goes thru a few inches of whatever is in the amp.
I am a firm believer in quality cables but cables have Very large level of diminishing returns.
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I had a couple pairs of the old PS Audio Statement speaker cables (bought cheap!) that had the different metal composition for the top and bottom. I remember they were kind of rich and smooth sounding, definitely not neutral, but that's what I needed back then with bright RTi series speakers. They turned out to be way too inflexible for long term use.
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Eh maybe if there's different wire top and bottom maybe... Maybe. It all goes thru a few inches of whatever is in the amp.
I am a firm believer in quality cables but cables have Very large level of diminishing returns.
I replaced my jumpers on my new speakers and I didn't hear any differences at all. I put them back in and still no change sonically. I guess because it's such a short distance that electrically with the surface contact of the jumpers , there isn't any sonic improvements to be had. Not to mention they are gold plated, I have no idea the quality , materials used but it doesn't seem to help or hurt when they are in or out replaced with copper 14g wire. I even did bare wire to remove the connectors and still no difference I can hear.Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time. -
Eh maybe if there's different wire top and bottom maybe... Maybe. It all goes thru a few inches of whatever is in the amp.
I am a firm believer in quality cables but cables have Very large level of diminishing returns.
I replaced my jumpers on my new speakers and I didn't hear any differences at all. I put them back in and still no change sonically. I guess because it's such a short distance that electrically with the surface contact of the jumpers , there isn't any sonic improvements to be had. Not to mention they are gold plated, I have no idea the quality , materials used but it doesn't seem to help or hurt when they are in or out replaced with copper 14g wire. I even did bare wire to remove the connectors and still no difference I can hear.
I agree a set of jumpers is not going to make a drastic improvement. But even a slight improvement can compound as they are made.
This is a very common item discussed in Facebook groups. Some seem to hear a difference, others can not. The naysayers generally get buutt hurt when questions are asked about the system and quality of the setup.
Tell us about the system you tried this on. Speakers/amp/receiver/source/cables?
2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources. -
Eh maybe if there's different wire top and bottom maybe... Maybe. It all goes thru a few inches of whatever is in the amp.
I am a firm believer in quality cables but cables have Very large level of diminishing returns.
I replaced my jumpers on my new speakers and I didn't hear any differences at all. I put them back in and still no change sonically. I guess because it's such a short distance that electrically with the surface contact of the jumpers , there isn't any sonic improvements to be had. Not to mention they are gold plated, I have no idea the quality , materials used but it doesn't seem to help or hurt when they are in or out replaced with copper 14g wire. I even did bare wire to remove the connectors and still no difference I can hear.
I agree a set of jumpers is not going to make a drastic improvement. But even a slight improvement can compound as they are made.
This is a very common item discussed in Facebook groups. Some seem to hear a difference, others can not. The naysayers generally get buutt hurt when questions are asked about the system and quality of the setup.
Tell us about the system you tried this on. Speakers/amp/receiver/source/cables?
Ok,
The system is as follows
Monitor Audio Bronze 50 7g Speakers
Sunfire HRS8 Subwoofer
Audioquest HD6 Subwoofer custom built
Parasound A52+ amp
Tried also
Niles SI125 amp
Also
Sonos AMP
Audioquest 14-2 Slip Speaker cables connected bare wire, Banana and tried Audioquest spades.
Sonos Connect and Bluesound Node Sources.
I've been fooling around with these new Bookshelf speakers I have.
Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
