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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 1,891
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I loved that game! I could probably buy a new 1982 Corvette with the quarters I dropped in that machine.

    Agree, my brother & my favorite game in the day.
    Bahahaaaa... quarters and a vette, same here.

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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,504
    F1nut wrote: »
    Plenty of areas have basements.

    In some areas, you never see a basement unless the build is into a hill. Much depends on the soils. Many areas have shallow rock and it is very expensive to build a basement unless is part of the natural formation.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,992
    billbillw wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Plenty of areas have basements.

    In some areas, you never see a basement unless the build is into a hill. Much depends on the soils. Many areas have shallow rock and it is very expensive to build a basement unless is part of the natural formation.

    This is true. Where my grandma lived in Arkansas, only the very wealthy had basements. The bedrock was very shallow and to have a basement they drilled, placed charges and let'er rip then cleaned up the blasted rock. This was 1977, maybe things have changed now. High water tables are also a concern.
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,682
    Here in Tennessee houses don't have basements. High water table.
    The ground doesn't freeze in winter, either. Water lines are buried only
    a foot deep.
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 3,057
    I’ve owned 3 houses without basements (Reno NV, Kennewick WA and Yakima WA) and 3 with basements (Missoula MT, SLC UT and Layton UT). I will never buy another house without a basement, as they are the absolute best value in additional square footage. My current home is +/- 4,000 square ft in a 1/2 basement (the first 4’ of the basement is below grade). If I were to find a house with similar square footage with out basement, it would cost 50% more than my current configuration. Also, the earth around a basement is excellent insulation - especially in summer.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,414
    The majority of the basements in this area older than 30 years are in dire need of repairs
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,992
    VR3 wrote: »
    The majority of the basements in this area older than 30 years are in dire need of repairs

    Yep, block or brick is not long lasting, poured walls all the way is the only way to go.
  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,325
    Heck most of the apartments I lived in as a young fellow had basements and I had access to them. My second apartment in 77 I turned the basement into my first man cave-listening room. It was a walk in basement complete with a beer fridge, Marantz receiver with large Advents, exercise equipment and a spot for my motorcycle and all my tools.
    We did live in a place for a couple years later on that was on a slab. Those floors being ice cold in the winter was one of my least favorite memories of that place.
  • jmwest1
    jmwest1 Posts: 19
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    This is true. Where my grandma lived in Arkansas, only the very wealthy had basements. The bedrock was very shallow and to have a basement they drilled, placed charges and let'er rip then cleaned up the blasted rock. This was 1977, maybe things have changed now. High water tables are also a concern.

    It hasn't changed. It adds about a third to the cost of the average home in Arkansas to have a basement.

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,992
    jmwest1 wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    This is true. Where my grandma lived in Arkansas, only the very wealthy had basements. The bedrock was very shallow and to have a basement they drilled, placed charges and let'er rip then cleaned up the blasted rock. This was 1977, maybe things have changed now. High water tables are also a concern.

    It hasn't changed. It adds about a third to the cost of the average home in Arkansas to have a basement.

    The cool thing was in the basements I seen way back then, the walls and floor WAS the bedrock. It was so cool to see the drill marks along the walls.
    Cottonmouth and Rattlesnake were problematic in basements😂😂
    Grandma kept a hoe next to her door going out to the carport. All it took was one rattlesnake sitting just outside her back door ONCE. She murdered that sucker about 77 times, it was well chopped up😉😜.
    I remember asking her why she had a hoe next to her back door in the house. She just looked at me with that matter of fact look in her face and said, "here going out to get the paper can be deadly always look before you go out the back door". She was spunky!
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,901
    Every home built in an area where tornadoes are even a remote possibility should have at least a room underground, if not a full basement.
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  • daddyjt
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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,898
    daddyjt wrote: »
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,992
    audioluvr wrote: »
    daddyjt wrote: »
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    I think I've found my calling.

    As a fluffer....
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,817
    edited December 30
    One house I lived in up in University Place, WA had a daylight basement. It was a 29hun sqft home. The bottom of the house had a master bdrm, three other rooms, my office and my theater room that measured 15.5 x 26.5. The ground sloped down around it and the insulation from it (as mentioned by @daddyjt) was phenomenal. From the front of the house, it looked like a rambler, you had no idea all that space was lurking below. I would love to have something like that again.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,504
    edited December 30
    Every home built in an area where tornadoes are even a remote possibility should have at least a room underground, if not a full basement.

    Sadly, that will never be the case unless it is mandated by the government, and in the many of the worst areas for tornado risk, they don't generally believe in government overreach. Even if they enacted laws now, there are millions of existing homes build as neighborhoods where they came in and built thousands of semi-affordable slab homes on 1/8 acre each. Between the 90s and the great recession, it was build build build in the south. Very poor build quality overall.
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 1,891
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    audioluvr wrote: »
    daddyjt wrote: »
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    I think I've found my calling.

    As a fluffer....

    Not sure what that is but I'd bet it ain't good.
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 1,891
    Back to basements...

    Pretty sure there were zero basements where we lived in S.E. Florida.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,414
    From what I've heard if you wait long enough mother nature may give you a free basement in flordia
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,992
    VR3 wrote: »
    From what I've heard if you wait long enough mother nature may give you a free basement in flordia

    Or a huge skylight.....
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,504
    edited December 30
    skipshot12 wrote: »
    Back to basements...

    Pretty sure there were zero basements where we lived in S.E. Florida.

    Yeah, the groundwater is usually only a foot or two below surface. It would be an engineering feat to keep a basement de-watered in SE FL. Heck, most new builds are on stilts...at least if they are anywhere near the coast.
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 1,891
    In Naples, when they build built-in swimming pools, they had to use Well Points to dry the ground.
    Then they would screw/drive in anchors, with straps, tied into the built-in pools to keep them from floating out of the ground.
    They did have several that floated up when the pool's were drained because the Maroons that built them never strapped them down.

    The average above seal level height in Naples is somewhere around 3'.
    We'd hit water when digging at most about 8"-12". Near the beach... not worth mentioning.