Anyone ever have root canal?

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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,716
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    mantis wrote: »
    My Dentist sent me to a specialist, I think a Endodontist sound about right , I have the paperwork at home. Thanks for the tip, but my Dentist does the final cap, they put some temp cap on it after the work, at least from what I remember.

    That's normal. My dentist did all the crowns, including the implant.
    Odd thing is, my dentist also has a degree in Oral Surgery, but when he moved here, he took over my previous dentists practice. More profitable.
  • Jetmaker737
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    I've had a couple. Like most folks have said, no biggie other than it's a long time to sit in the chair with your jaw cranked open. Sounds of drilling and suctioning, and bits of water flying around your face. Smell of burnt tooth. Maybe needing an extra boost of novocaine midway through. I miss the days when they gave you nitrous oxide. Loved that stuff, lol.
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  • heiney9
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    I've had a couple. Like most folks have said, no biggie other than it's a long time to sit in the chair with your jaw cranked open. Sounds of drilling and suctioning, and bits of water flying around your face. Smell of burnt tooth. Maybe needing an extra boost of novocaine midway through. I miss the days when they gave you nitrous oxide. Loved that stuff, lol.

    My cousin is my dentist and I always ask for gas along with the needle. The gas is cool and it relaxes me, mostly it's just cool.

    H9
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  • TennMan
    TennMan Posts: 1,264
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    I had a root canal done about two years ago. Dreading it for two weeks before getting it done was the hardest part for me. Getting the shots to numb it was the most painful part. My endodontist did the root canal and made and installed the crown in his office the same day. It was a small tooth so he had to install a "pin" while he was doing the root canal to strengthen the tooth so it wouldn't break. He saved a tooth that my dentist though should be pulled and replaced with an implant. Not only did he save the tooth, he saved me a ton of money for an implant to.
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    heiney9 wrote: »
    I've had a couple. Like most folks have said, no biggie other than it's a long time to sit in the chair with your jaw cranked open. Sounds of drilling and suctioning, and bits of water flying around your face. Smell of burnt tooth. Maybe needing an extra boost of novocaine midway through. I miss the days when they gave you nitrous oxide. Loved that stuff, lol.

    My cousin is my dentist and I always ask for gas along with the needle. The gas is cool and it relaxes me, mostly it's just cool.

    H9

    The gas works good in conjunction with a shot, but when I was a kid the dentist just gave me the gas only, that stuff doesn't numb at all when they start drilling. I didn't go to the dentist for years when I became an adult because of the experience I had as a kid.
  • mark090852
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    I've never had a root canal procedure, but I have done a few. I usually referred my patients to an endodontist for that part of the treatment plan.
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  • mantis
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    I have a cracked tooth enough where the Endodontist wants me to get it pulled. Here's what sucks. I went there , paid a $135 co pay which sucks only for them to tell me what I already knew and then told me I have to go back to my regular dentist to get it pulled , they don't do that work there.

    I left the office relieved I didn't have to get root canal but now I have to deal with yet another appointment to get my tooth pulled, and if I go with the implant, another 1 or 2 appointments.

    Just ranting but this sucks.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • heiney9
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    Wow, I would have not paid the co-pay, that's total bs, especially since the work they referred you for they don't even do. Even if you needed the work, they couldn't do it. I'd raise holy hell with all 3. The insurance co, your referring dentist and that place.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,716
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    mantis wrote: »
    I have a cracked tooth enough where the Endodontist wants me to get it pulled. Here's what sucks. I went there , paid a $135 co pay which sucks only for them to tell me what I already knew and then told me I have to go back to my regular dentist to get it pulled , they don't do that work there.

    I left the office relieved I didn't have to get root canal but now I have to deal with yet another appointment to get my tooth pulled, and if I go with the implant, another 1 or 2 appointments.

    Just ranting but this sucks.

    I've never had a charge for work NOT performed at all. What did he do?

    For the implant it should be more than 1 or 2 visits. MY dentist doesn't pull teeth, never had one that would. They referred me to an oral surgeon.

    Oral Surgeon:
    1. Extract tooth, and bone graft if needed. Healing time.
    2. Drill and place implant. Healing time.
    3. Return to surgeon to torque test implant.

    Dentist:
    4. Digital or physical impression for Zirconium Crown.
    5. Crown fitting.

    And if the fit isn't right, another appointment, and so on. It takes a while. I know some advertise a tooth the same day, but it's not the best way.

    Odd side note. I was told at the implant torque test, that if it failed, they would start all over, NO charge, or give me a refund. My choice. The crown is also gauranteed by the lab, although the dentist wasn't sure how long.
    He makes crowns on a Cerac machine in his office, but not the Zirconium or gold crowns.

    What tooth is it? If it's the very back molar (not counting wisdom), you will never miss it.
  • mark090852
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    heiney9 wrote: »
    Wow, I would have not paid the co-pay, that's total bs, especially since the work they referred you for they don't even do. Even if you needed the work, they couldn't do it. I'd raise holy hell with all 3. The insurance co, your referring dentist and that place.

    H9

    You don't have any idea how it works. His dentist did not refer him to have "work" done. His dentist referred him to an endodontist, a specialist, to evaluate the tooth in question and to determine if there was a reasonable chance that endodontic treatment (root canal treatment) could be performed successfully. Of course there would be a fee for the examination. There would have been a much higher fee if, indeed, endodontic treatment had been performed.
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  • mark090852
    mark090852 Posts: 996
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    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    mantis wrote: »
    I have a cracked tooth enough where the Endodontist wants me to get it pulled. Here's what sucks. I went there , paid a $135 co pay which sucks only for them to tell me what I already knew and then told me I have to go back to my regular dentist to get it pulled , they don't do that work there.

    I left the office relieved I didn't have to get root canal but now I have to deal with yet another appointment to get my tooth pulled, and if I go with the implant, another 1 or 2 appointments.

    Just ranting but this sucks.

    I've never had a charge for work NOT performed at all. What did he do?

    What did he do? He examined the patient and utilized the skills and knowledge that he gained from many years of education and clinical experience to determine that root canal treatment was not a viable option. There is value in the opinion and it is perfectly acceptable to charge a fee for that.
    Post edited by mark090852 on
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,716
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    mark090852 wrote: »
    What did he do? He examined the patient and utilized the skills and knowledge that he gained from many years of education and clinical experience to determine that root canal treatment was not a viable option. There is value in the opinion and it is perfectly acceptable to charge a fee for that.

    That is why I asked what he did. I would imagine at least x-rays and an examination for that fee.
    Note that I said "work not performed at all". I knew he did something.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,091
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    mark090852 wrote: »
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Wow, I would have not paid the co-pay, that's total bs, especially since the work they referred you for they don't even do. Even if you needed the work, they couldn't do it. I'd raise holy hell with all 3. The insurance co, your referring dentist and that place.

    H9

    You don't have any idea how it works. His dentist did not refer him to have "work" done. His dentist referred him to an endodontist, a specialist, to evaluate the tooth in question and to determine if there was a reasonable chance that endodontic treatment (root canal treatment) could be performed successfully. Of course there would be a fee for the examination. There would have been a much higher fee if, indeed, endodontic treatment had been performed.

    I was just going by what was posted. Didn't mean to crap on dentists (which you've told us you are)

    I'm out....you can advise him going forward.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,059
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    heiney9 wrote: »
    Wow, I would have not paid the co-pay, that's total bs, especially since the work they referred you for they don't even do. Even if you needed the work, they couldn't do it. I'd raise holy hell with all 3. The insurance co, your referring dentist and that place.

    H9

    Yeah, I wasn't happy.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,059
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    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    mantis wrote: »
    I have a cracked tooth enough where the Endodontist wants me to get it pulled. Here's what sucks. I went there , paid a $135 co pay which sucks only for them to tell me what I already knew and then told me I have to go back to my regular dentist to get it pulled , they don't do that work there.

    I left the office relieved I didn't have to get root canal but now I have to deal with yet another appointment to get my tooth pulled, and if I go with the implant, another 1 or 2 appointments.

    Just ranting but this sucks.

    I've never had a charge for work NOT performed at all. What did he do?

    For the implant it should be more than 1 or 2 visits. MY dentist doesn't pull teeth, never had one that would. They referred me to an oral surgeon.

    Oral Surgeon:
    1. Extract tooth, and bone graft if needed. Healing time.
    2. Drill and place implant. Healing time.
    3. Return to surgeon to torque test implant.

    Dentist:
    4. Digital or physical impression for Zirconium Crown.
    5. Crown fitting.

    And if the fit isn't right, another appointment, and so on. It takes a while. I know some advertise a tooth the same day, but it's not the best way.

    Odd side note. I was told at the implant torque test, that if it failed, they would start all over, NO charge, or give me a refund. My choice. The crown is also gauranteed by the lab, although the dentist wasn't sure how long.
    He makes crowns on a Cerac machine in his office, but not the Zirconium or gold crowns.

    What tooth is it? If it's the very back molar (not counting wisdom), you will never miss it.

    So on my right lower side there are 3 or 4 Molars style teeth , the back ones. I don't have wisdom teeth they where pulled when I was 17 they where impacted.

    The tooth that is bad is 1 from the last. It would make one tooth sit all by itself and the right together once they pull the tooth IF I don't get the implant.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantis
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    mark090852 wrote: »
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    mantis wrote: »
    I have a cracked tooth enough where the Endodontist wants me to get it pulled. Here's what sucks. I went there , paid a $135 co pay which sucks only for them to tell me what I already knew and then told me I have to go back to my regular dentist to get it pulled , they don't do that work there.

    I left the office relieved I didn't have to get root canal but now I have to deal with yet another appointment to get my tooth pulled, and if I go with the implant, another 1 or 2 appointments.

    Just ranting but this sucks.

    I've never had a charge for work NOT performed at all. What did he do?

    What did he do? He examined the patient and utilized the skills and knowledge that he gained from many years of education and clinical experience to determine that root canal treatment was not a viable option. There is value in the opinion and it is perfectly acceptable to charge a fee for that.

    I get that , they took a 3d Image. I guess that is what I'm being billed for, but before he took the 3D image he already knew it was cracked.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,716
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    mantis wrote: »
    The tooth that is bad is 1 from the last. It would make one tooth sit all by itself and the right together once they pull the tooth IF I don't get the implant.
    I'd get the implant on that one, and I just did #30. #32 would be the wisdom tooth(right bottom jaw).

    mantis wrote: »
    I get that , they took a 3d Image. I guess that is what I'm being billed for, but before he took the 3D image he already knew it was cracked.
    Depends on how deep the crack is, some cracked teeth can be saved. My dentist could tell without sending me to the Endontist.