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  • Milito
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  • F1nut
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    Those will work. They are the same as the Dayton spikes at PE, except for the thread pattern.

    I don't understand why so many subs come with those tiny short feet.
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  • jbreezy5
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    dpowell wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    I highly recommend getting your sub off the ground and I recommend the Adona Multi-Element Cones to do so.

    This is good advice. Getting the sub off the floor will tighten things up.

    WAF may prevent taking this advice; however, Milito has one advantage to help with subwoofer placement issues, which is his use of YPAO calibration.

    It seems to work very well for me in both systems with Yammy receivers. Sound is well-balanced top-to-bottom, and bass is tight, fast, punchy and deep.
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  • jbreezy5
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    F1nut wrote: »
    Those will work. They are the same as the Dayton spikes at PE, except for the thread pattern.

    I don't understand why so many subs come with those tiny short feet.

    Some woofer manufacturers want their subs de-coupled but near as possible to the floor for boundary reinforcement. REL comes to mind as one that encourages corner loading for the same reason.
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  • msg
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    What is "boundary reinforcement"? Curious.

    But yeah, some sub manufacturers use decoupling feet, like the SVS SoundPath. I think HSU has something similar.

    I do wonder whether down-firing and forward-firing, or in this case dual-side firing makes a difference in whether coupling or decoupling is best suited.

    I did notice for certain that elevating a down-firing MartinLogan Abyss reduced congestion and made for increased impact, bass note separation and hang & decay.

    I have hard rubber feet for that sub, but currently have it on some Sound Addicted SubCone Isolation Feet; hard flooring. These are a little squishy, but not quite like Sorbothane.
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  • F1nut
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    jbreezy5 wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Those will work. They are the same as the Dayton spikes at PE, except for the thread pattern.

    I don't understand why so many subs come with those tiny short feet.

    Some woofer manufacturers want their subs de-coupled but near as possible to the floor for boundary reinforcement. REL comes to mind as one that encourages corner loading for the same reason.

    Every REL sub I've seen has what appears to be 2 inch tall legs.
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  • jbreezy5
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    @msg - boundary reinforcement simply means a speaker or subwoofer is located in closer proximity to a wall, floor, or corner.
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  • jbreezy5
    jbreezy5 Posts: 1,141
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    F1nut wrote: »
    jbreezy5 wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Those will work. They are the same as the Dayton spikes at PE, except for the thread pattern.

    I don't understand why so many subs come with those tiny short feet.

    Some woofer manufacturers want their subs de-coupled but near as possible to the floor for boundary reinforcement. REL comes to mind as one that encourages corner loading for the same reason.

    Every REL sub I've seen has what appears to be 2 inch tall legs.

    The feet that came with my HT1003 are approx. 1/2” height.

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    CD Players: Sony CDP-211; Sony DVP-S9000ES; Sony UDP-X800M2 (x2); Cambridge Audio CXC

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    Streamers: ROKU (x3); Bluesound Node 2i and Node N130 w/LHY LPS // Receivers: Yamaha RX-V775BT; Yamaha RX-V777

    Preamps: B&K Ref 50; B&K Ref 5 S2; Classe CP-800 MkII; Audio Research SP16L (soon)

    Amps: Niles SI-275; B&K ST125.7; B&K ST125.2; Classe CA-2300; Butler Audio TDB-5150

    Speakers: Boston Acoustics CR55; Focal Chorus 705v; Wharfedale Diamond 10.2; Monitor Audio Silver-1; Def Tech Mythos One (x4)/Mythos Three Center (x2)/Mythos Two pr.; Martin Logan Electromotion ESL; Legacy Audio Victoria/Silverscreen Center; Gallo Acoustics Reference 3.1; SVS SB-1000 Pro; REL HT-1003; B&W ASW610; HifiMan HE400i

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  • F1nut
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    Yep, those are the tiny feet. Seems they went to those on their HT subs.
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  • Emlyn
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    The Rel HT series doesn't use a bottom mounted passive radiator like the other models that use either rails or substantial feet. The MKII version of the HT/1003 does use larger feet but possibly more for style. The HT/1510 model has the larger feet so the subwoofers can be stacked.
  • F1nut
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    Regardless, raising the sub off the floor improves the performance.

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  • F1nut
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    Nice!
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  • sm1th5
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    This is one sub I wouldn't touch myself. It's too small for living rooms!
    I have a pb 1000 pro myself in a tiny bedroom!

    How can you let your partner have a negative impact in home theater?
    Can you ask her if she is happy to make it less good and enjoyable for you.

    I hope she understands this is home theater and it's about quality audio and movie and TV show viewing.
  • treitz3
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    You must be single.

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  • daddyjt
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    sm1th5 wrote: »
    This is one sub I wouldn't touch myself. It's too small for living rooms!
    I have a pb 1000 pro myself in a tiny bedroom!

    How can you let your partner have a negative impact in home theater?
    Can you ask her if she is happy to make it less good and enjoyable for you.

    I hope she understands this is home theater and it's about quality audio and movie and TV show viewing.

    Spoken like a true adolescent.
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  • SIHAB
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    I like my SVS 3000 for music, blending in with stand mounts.
    It will be part of the downsize setup if...

    I've yet to raise it up but this thread is the push I needed. Thanks!
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  • zarrdoss
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    I am glad all my HT stuff is in the basement where she has no say, lol. I have a couple of SB 3000's for my main HT and they do HT and music extremely well. I really considered this sub, or a pair for my music only rig but decided to go with a pair if Rhythmic L12's instead. Glad you are liking it though.
  • VR3
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    Anyone on a crawl space should entertain infinite baffle... Takes up no floor space and for theater the bass is truly insane
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  • ChrisD06
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    sm1th5 wrote: »
    This is one sub I wouldn't touch myself. It's too small for living rooms!
    I have a pb 1000 pro myself in a tiny bedroom!

    How can you let your partner have a negative impact in home theater?
    Can you ask her if she is happy to make it less good and enjoyable for you.

    I hope she understands this is home theater and it's about quality audio and movie and TV show viewing.

    What in the Roblox-playing 12 year old?
  • rooftop59
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    VR3 wrote: »
    Anyone on a crawl space should entertain infinite baffle... Takes up no floor space and for theater the bass is truly insane

    You might be a redneck if ….🤣

    I was and forever will be a redneck, but I haven’t had a crawl space in a very long time…😢
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,054
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    Not sure how a crawl space correlates to being a redneck but sure

    I have heard many subwoofers and absolutely nothing touches an infinite baffle for theater, nothing!

    It has endless output and extension with literally no distortion

    Foundation shifting bass and I have maybe 1500 invested into it
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  • rooftop59
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    VR3 wrote: »
    Not sure how a crawl space correlates to being a redneck but sure

    I have heard many subwoofers and absolutely nothing touches an infinite baffle for theater, nothing!

    It has endless output and extension with literally no distortion

    Foundation shifting bass and I have maybe 1500 invested into it

    You know I’m just razzing you. that sounds frickin awesome and I would love to hear it! We can’t do crawl spaces in central Texas since the ground shifts too much. You end up with major foundation issues…but man it’s convenient for repairing pipers, running wires, etc
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  • ChrisD06
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    I'm intruiged about an infinite baffle subwoofer... My rear wall of my theatre room vents into a storage space underneath the stairs and I suppose it'd be a good spot for it. My side wall vents into another room and the ceiling too.

    I might have a spare 10" driver lying around, don't think I'd want to rip apart my walls though. Where would I even start lol.
  • VR3
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    Usually infinite baffle drivers have ultra long throw and heavier cones.

    You also need an incredibly large space like a crawl space or an attic

    My 4 x 15s in the crawl displace enough air to displace all of the air in a bedroom every time it fully extends each direction. It moves almost 2 inches each direction max excursion
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  • ChrisD06
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    VR3 wrote: »
    Usually infinite baffle drivers have ultra long throw and heavier cones.

    You also need an incredibly large space like a crawl space or an attic

    My 4 x 15s in the crawl displace enough air to displace all of the air in a bedroom every time it fully extends each direction. It moves almost 2 inches each direction max excursion

    Oh... that'd literally damage the wall probably. The pressure under the stairs would be too high I know that for a fact. I guess this will be something that will wait until I have a house of my own in like a decade or so lol.

    To be fair I still intend on getting some PSW1200s to match my RT3000p so I should be fine in the subwoofer department for now.
  • Milito
    Milito Posts: 1,914
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    A Small Subwoofer Comparison! SVS SB1000 Pro vs 3000 Micro.
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  • msg
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    Man, I really wanna try one of these things, Mike, just to see what they're like for myself. I just don't need anymore subs, do I, @rooftop59 @F1nut ? The answer is H-No.

    @Tony M is my inspiration moving forward. If he can do it, I can do it!
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  • F1nut
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    No, you don't.
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  • ChrisD06
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    msg wrote: »
    Man, I really wanna try one of these things, Mike, just to see what they're like for myself. I just don't need anymore subs, do I, @rooftop59 @F1nut ? The answer is H-No.

    @Tony M is my inspiration moving forward. If he can do it, I can do it!

    There is no such thing as not needing more subs. You ALWAYS need more subs.

    Sincerely, a bass addict.