Not sure which SDA 2 these are.

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johnkalio
johnkalio Posts: 14
edited May 2021 in Vintage Speakers
Hello all,
I've been looking for a pair of Polk SDAs any model I could find but not much these days here in Canada. I stumbled on these SDA 2s. I can't tell which ones they are. I attached the pics for more clarity. I know that the tweeter on one has been changed they are pin/blade and no interconnect cable from what the owner's daughter has told me. Not sure if the are desirable either compared to the other models.
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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,480
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    First pic is not the same pair of speakers. Those are 2B's. I believe because of the blade/blade interconnect, the others are 2A.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,554
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    SDA2a but the very first picture is of the SDA2b two very different speakers
  • johnkalio
    johnkalio Posts: 14
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    DaveHo wrote: »
    First pic is not the same pair of speakers. Those are 2B's. I believe because of the blade/blade interconnect, the others are 2A.

    These people are fools. No clue what she has now. Thanks for the reply.
  • johnkalio
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    DaveHo wrote: »
    First pic is not the same pair of speakers. Those are 2B's. I believe because of the blade/blade interconnect, the others are 2A.

    Unreal. lol
  • johnkalio
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    DaveHo wrote: »
    First pic is not the same pair of speakers. Those are 2B's. I believe because of the blade/blade interconnect, the others are 2A.

    First picture is a mistake sent by her. I will remove it.
  • johnkalio
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SDA2a but the very first picture is of the SDA2b two very different speakers

    First pic is not correct, removed.
  • Gardenstater
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    Maybe they work for NASA and they used the same procedure they did on the moon photos lol.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,554
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    SDA2a. You'll need a good amp to drive them properly. They start at 4ohm and drop to low 3ohm, many receivers will or can go into protection mode driving them. I would NOT use that interconnect cable without the proper spades or switch the connection on the speaker to neutrik connection.

    https://www.neutrik.com/en/product/nl2fx
  • johnkalio
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SDA2a. You'll need a good amp to drive them properly. They start at 4ohm and drop to low 3ohm, many receivers will or can go into protection mode driving them. I would NOT use that interconnect cable without the proper spades or switch the connection on the speaker to neutrik connection.

    https://www.neutrik.com/en/product/nl2fx

    I have not bought them yet. Doing my homework before I watse my time and money. Do you think they're woth it? If I do get them I have a few Yamaha M80s I'm sure could rock these speakers.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,554
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    johnkalio wrote: »
    Hello all,
    I've been looking for a pair of Polk SDAs any model I could find but not much these days here in Canada. I stumbled on these SDA 2s. I can't tell which ones they are. I attached the pics for more clarity. I know that the tweeter on one has been changed they are pin/blade and no interconnect cable from what the owner's daughter has told me. Not sure if the are desirable either compared to the other models.

    OK please be very clear as to what you are asking
    The bold above Pin/Blade model will be a SDA2b very desirable speaker easier to drive at 6ohm.
    If they are Blade/blade then those are SDA2a a less desirable and a very demanding speaker as to needing a dedicated amp. The Yamaha M80's were decent amps but very long in the tooth and in need of new caps and possibly other parts on the boards.

  • johnkalio
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    johnkalio wrote: »
    Hello all,
    I've been looking for a pair of Polk SDAs any model I could find but not much these days here in Canada. I stumbled on these SDA 2s. I can't tell which ones they are. I attached the pics for more clarity. I know that the tweeter on one has been changed they are pin/blade and no interconnect cable from what the owner's daughter has told me. Not sure if the are desirable either compared to the other models.

    OK please be very clear as to what you are asking
    The bold above Pin/Blade model will be a SDA2b very desirable speaker easier to drive at 6ohm.
    If they are Blade/blade then those are SDA2a a less desirable and a very demanding speaker as to needing a dedicated amp. The Yamaha M80's were decent amps but very long in the tooth and in need of new caps and possibly other parts on the boards.

    The pics I posted above are for a pair that I'm looking to buy. I'm not sure if they are 2As or 2Bs. It looks to me pin/blade from the pics, I think. Also would they be desirable as you mentioned if they are indeed 2Bs.
  • F1nut
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    They are way beyond a shadow of doubt the 2A with the blade/blade SDA cable connections.
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  • pitdogg2
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    The picture you included of the interconnect socket is of the SDA2a. It is a Blade/blade socket. They are good speakers but need a good amp to function properly long term. Like I said the SDA2a are a 4ohm speaker that drops to the low 3ohm area.

    The SDA2b (not pictured) ARE pin/blade. They are 6ohm and are a much better speaker than the SDA2a. (but look very similar in that both have 2 drivers and a tweeter and 12" passive radiator)
    The Pin/blade speakers had the socket inside the binding post cup instead of outside the cup like earlier models that had the Blade/blade connection.
  • johnkalio
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    F1nut wrote: »
    They are way beyond a shadow of doubt the 2A with the blade/blade SDA cable connections.

    Thanks for the reply. New to the SDA line.
  • johnkalio
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    johnkalio wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    They are way beyond a shadow of doubt the 2A with the blade/blade SDA cable connections.

    Thanks for the reply. New to the SDA line.
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    The picture you included of the interconnect socket is of the SDA2a. It is a Blade/blade socket. They are good speakers but need a good amp to function properly long term. Like I said the SDA2a are a 4ohm speaker that drops to the low 3ohm area.

    The SDA2b (not pictured) ARE pin/blade. They are 6ohm and are a much better speaker than the SDA2a. (but look very similar in that both have 2 drivers and a tweeter and 12" passive radiator)
    The Pin/blade speakers had the socket inside the binding post cup instead of outside the cup like earlier models that had the Blade/blade connection.

    Thanks for the clarification. My head is in the clouds today. The SDA 2a which I posted are the harder to drive ones. The 2b are easier to drive.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,554
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    correct.

    I've had the SDA2a speaker. I even recapped the entire crossover. It is a more expensive endeavor due to the cap sizes used in the SDA2a crossover. BUT it can be a very nice set of speakers. What is the price they are asking?
  • johnkalio
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    correct.

    I've had the SDA2a speaker. I even recapped the entire crossover. It is a more expensive endeavor due to the cap sizes used in the SDA2a crossover. BUT it can be a very nice set of speakers. What is the price they are asking?

    They are asking $300 Can. But wrong tweeter and no interconnect cable. I should offer her $100.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,792
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    johnkalio wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SDA2a. You'll need a good amp to drive them properly. They start at 4ohm and drop to low 3ohm, many receivers will or can go into protection mode driving them. I would NOT use that interconnect cable without the proper spades or switch the connection on the speaker to neutrik connection.

    https://www.neutrik.com/en/product/nl2fx

    I have not bought them yet. Doing my homework before I watse my time and money. Do you think they're woth it? If I do get them I have a few Yamaha M80s I'm sure could rock these speakers.

    The M80 is a dual mono amp meaning it is not a common ground amp and therefore cannot be used with the SDA 2A.
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  • invalid
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    I've blown up plenty of amps and receivers over the last 30 years with my sda2a's. They are really nice sounding speakers especially if updated with new rd0194 tweeters and new caps, but they are hard to drive
  • johnkalio
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    F1nut wrote: »
    johnkalio wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SDA2a. You'll need a good amp to drive them properly. They start at 4ohm and drop to low 3ohm, many receivers will or can go into protection mode driving them. I would NOT use that interconnect cable without the proper spades or switch the connection on the speaker to neutrik connection.

    https://www.neutrik.com/en/product/nl2fx

    I have not bought them yet. Doing my homework before I watse my time and money. Do you think they're woth it? If I do get them I have a few Yamaha M80s I'm sure could rock these speakers.

    The M80 is a dual mono amp meaning it is not a common ground amp and therefore cannot be used with the SDA 2A.

    You learn something everyday. Sheesh. Now i'm really out of luck. lol
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,792
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    johnkalio wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    johnkalio wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SDA2a. You'll need a good amp to drive them properly. They start at 4ohm and drop to low 3ohm, many receivers will or can go into protection mode driving them. I would NOT use that interconnect cable without the proper spades or switch the connection on the speaker to neutrik connection.

    https://www.neutrik.com/en/product/nl2fx

    I have not bought them yet. Doing my homework before I watse my time and money. Do you think they're woth it? If I do get them I have a few Yamaha M80s I'm sure could rock these speakers.

    The M80 is a dual mono amp meaning it is not a common ground amp and therefore cannot be used with the SDA 2A.

    You learn something everyday. Sheesh. Now i'm really out of luck. lol

    The later models with the pin/blade SDA connection can use non-common ground amps with the use of an isolation transformer.
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  • johnkalio
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    F1nut wrote: »
    johnkalio wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    johnkalio wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SDA2a. You'll need a good amp to drive them properly. They start at 4ohm and drop to low 3ohm, many receivers will or can go into protection mode driving them. I would NOT use that interconnect cable without the proper spades or switch the connection on the speaker to neutrik connection.

    https://www.neutrik.com/en/product/nl2fx

    I have not bought them yet. Doing my homework before I watse my time and money. Do you think they're woth it? If I do get them I have a few Yamaha M80s I'm sure could rock these speakers.

    The M80 is a dual mono amp meaning it is not a common ground amp and therefore cannot be used with the SDA 2A.

    You learn something everyday. Sheesh. Now i'm really out of luck. lol

    The later models with the pin/blade SDA connection can use non-common ground amps with the use of an isolation transformer.

    Would I be able to drive any of the smaller SDAs?
  • johnkalio
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    F1nut wrote: »
    johnkalio wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SDA2a. You'll need a good amp to drive them properly. They start at 4ohm and drop to low 3ohm, many receivers will or can go into protection mode driving them. I would NOT use that interconnect cable without the proper spades or switch the connection on the speaker to neutrik connection.

    https://www.neutrik.com/en/product/nl2fx

    I have not bought them yet. Doing my homework before I watse my time and money. Do you think they're woth it? If I do get them I have a few Yamaha M80s I'm sure could rock these speakers.

    The M80 is a dual mono amp meaning it is not a common ground amp and therefore cannot be used with the SDA 2A.

    I haven't checked it myself yet, but they say the M80/M85 are common ground amps.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,792
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    Who says?

    Something I just found....
    The Yamaha has a good power supply ( TRUE dual mono with individual iron core non-toroidal transformers for each channel ).

    True dual mono does not share a common ground.
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  • johnkalio
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    F1nut wrote: »
    Who says?

    Something I just found....
    The Yamaha has a good power supply ( TRUE dual mono with individual iron core non-toroidal transformers for each channel ).

    True dual mono does not share a common ground.

    "The easiest way to see if an amplifier is common-ground and therefore suitable for SDA speakers, is to plug an ohmmeter across the two channel's negative terminals, to measure the resistance" That's how I will check it later on this evening to be sure.
  • F1nut
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    Yep, better do that.
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