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Ken HELP. Please get Vanilla to fix this problem

BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,592
edited February 2019 in The Clubhouse
It occurs on the iPad Mini, and the iPhone. Thank you.

https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/185364/another-vanilla-problem/p1

iPad Mini is at latest software.

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,592
    Also, if possible please change the subject from ‘to fi’ to ‘to fix’. Thanks. :)
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • KennethSwaugerKennethSwauger Moderator Posts: 6,888
    Hello,
    I've brought it to their attention.
    "They thought we were too loud, but shoot, I had four army blankets folded over my amp, and the volume level was on 2. I'm used to playin' on 10!" S.R.V.
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  • brettw22brettw22 Posts: 7,700
    I don't think Vanilla will be able to fix the Apple issue........
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,592
    Thanks Ken. It worked fine until a couple of weeks ago.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,273
    brettw22 wrote: »
    I don't think Vanilla will be able to fix the Apple issue........

    If it was an apple issue why would it have started a week or two ago...
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,592
    One thing that might help is that my old full size iPad works fine. It no longer gets Apple software updates. This indicates Vanilla has done something that affects the latest IOS.

    Old IOS that works fine.

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    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 2,613
    edited February 2019
    As crappy as it is I zoom in the page and it allows me to see the text field as I type.

    Annoying yes but until it gets smoothed over it may work.

    IPad Pro running IOs 12.something on Chrome app.
    Just a dude doing dude-ly things

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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    I can't tell you how long it took for me to get logged in this morning, when I shouldn't have been logged out to begin with. The fields for my username and password are missing, all I keep getting is a small "x". At what point do all involved admit Vanilla is a failure and move on to a different platform! Just the fact that 50% of the width of the screen is a background picture and 1/3 is used for actual posts is enough to declare it a failure. At least the background isn't so bright it burns my retinas, like it did for a short time a few years back.

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,491
    the little white box...

    Kinda reminds me of that movie a while back about that video game that would kill people...
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    I think I posted this in the wrong Get Vanilla To Fix This Problem thread. There's another one on page 2. Do the people that work for Vanilla ever actually spend time in any of their forums to see all the glitches? I bet when they get home and get on their computers, they are all members of vBulletin & Proboards forums. Everyone knows someone that works on an assembly line that tells their closest friends, "If you saw how these were put together, you'd never own one!"
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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps x4
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,491
    Vanilla and the legacy of this particular forum probably represent a square peg/round hole kind of conundrum.

    My guess is a 'greenfield' :) implementation of a social media-type thing meant mostly for mobile device use via Vanilla would be fit-for-purpose. Retrofitting the legacy Polk forum to Vanilla's ecosystem (ahem), however, was (as I once heard the waggish sports commentator Charlie Pierce comment) a cluster of that which should not be clustered. :no_mouth:
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    This has become my daily routine involving this forum.

    Start my computer, open FF, check forum, I'm logged out, Try to log in, No place for user name and password, just small X, refresh page 5 times, 10, 50 10, 200 (however long it takes)... finally logged back in, start skimming through threads, find something I'd like to comment on, write comment, proof read five times, click on Post Comment, suddenly logged out, try to log back in, no place for user name and password, just small X, refresh page 5 times, 10, 50 10, 200... finally logged back in, go back to thread, my post never got posted and has been erased from the Leave A Comment box, retype comment, click on Post Comment, post worked, immediately notice typo/misspelling, select Edit, fix typos, Save, suddenly logged out, rinse and repeat. Forgot to check PMs, rinse and repeat.

    I've been trying to Save Draft every time I want to comment, but I forget to. At some point you have to ask yourself, "Is it worth it?" It would just be easier to stay logged out, read others' posts and not participate. Great forum experience!
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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,491
    edited February 2019
    Hermitism wrote: »
    This has become my daily routine involving this forum.

    Start my computer, open FF, check forum, I'm logged out, Try to log in, No place for user name and password, just small X, refresh page 5 times, 10, 50 10, 200 (however long it takes)... finally logged back in, start skimming through threads, find something I'd like to comment on, write comment, proof read five times, click on Post Comment, suddenly logged out, try to log back in, no place for user name and password, just small X, refresh page 5 times, 10, 50 10, 200... finally logged back in, go back to thread, my post never got posted and has been erased from the Leave A Comment box, retype comment, click on Post Comment, post worked, immediately notice typo/misspelling, select Edit, fix typos, Save, suddenly logged out, rinse and repeat. Forgot to check PMs, rinse and repeat.

    I've been trying to Save Draft every time I want to comment, but I forget to. At some point you have to ask yourself, "Is it worth it?" It would just be easier to stay logged out, read others' posts and not participate. Great forum experience!

    well, a person needs a hobby, you know?

    As an aside -- I like the way that technology has replaced all of our old time work with what I call metawork, i.e., service to the technology itself. Metawork is, e.g., checking e-mails -- or clicking on a tiny white box with an 'x' in it a hundred times.

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,812
    When I see the SIGN IN/REGISTER boxes, I just click "Recent Discussions" below them and it goes to that page and I am suddenly logged in. PC, Windows 10, Google Chrome.
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    It doesn't happen all the time, but several times per day. I think Vanilla doesn't like Firefox, and I'm too stubborn to change browsers just for one website. As long as the forum has been using vanilla, I haven't had this many issues until recently and it's been getting worse. I used to get logged back in within ten times of refreshing the page. Now it gets to the point that I give up, do something else, then come back and try again. Desktop, laptop, not specific to one computer, but have Win10, FF on both.

    And bonus... I go to all this trouble to get logged back in, only to find @msg sent me hairy naked guy pictures with claw hands and feet to my inbox. WTF?
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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps x4
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  • msgmsg Posts: 5,251
    edited February 2019
    Viking64 wrote: »
    When I see the SIGN IN/REGISTER boxes, I just click "Recent Discussions" below them and it goes to that page and I am suddenly logged in. PC, Windows 10, Google Chrome.

    That's weird. When I login I always get the same thing

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,491
    Hermitism wrote: »
    It doesn't happen all the time, but several times per day. I think Vanilla doesn't like Firefox, and I'm too stubborn to change browsers just for one website. As long as the forum has been using vanilla, I haven't had this many issues until recently and it's been getting worse. I used to get logged back in within ten times of refreshing the page. Now it gets to the point that I give up, do something else, then come back and try again. Desktop, laptop, not specific to one computer, but have Win10, FF on both.

    And bonus... I go to all this trouble to get logged back in, only to find @msg sent me hairy naked guy pictures with claw hands and feet to my inbox. WTF?

    I didn't think Russ wanted those shared.
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  • msgmsg Posts: 5,251
    Hermitism wrote: »
    And bonus... I go to all this trouble to get logged back in, only to find @msg sent me hairy naked guy pictures with claw hands and feet to my inbox. WTF?
    Dude that was just a heads up of the paparazzi shot of your date last night.
    I disabled signatures.
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  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 2,613
    @Hermitism Have you cleared your cache and cookies? Sounds like a possible corrupted cookie.
    Just a dude doing dude-ly things

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    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
    "Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    codycatalist wrote: »
    @Hermitism Have you cleared your cache and cookies? Sounds like a possible corrupted cookie.
    About once a month I clear both when doing computer maintenance, but I'll do it now and see if it makes a difference in the next couple days. Thanks!
    msg wrote: »
    Hermitism wrote: »
    And bonus... I go to all this trouble to get logged back in, only to find @msg sent me hairy naked guy pictures with claw hands and feet to my inbox. WTF?
    Dude that was just a heads up of the paparazzi shot of your date last night.
    In your defense, it was an album cover you sent me. Couldn't find one with a naked lady???
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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps x4
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,812
    codycatalist wrote: »
    corrupted cookie.

    I know this girl who had a.....nevermind. :o
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    codycatalist wrote: »
    @Hermitism Have you cleared your cache and cookies?
    As I was about to do this just now, I noticed that I have all 3rd party cookies blocked. Not sure if that would contribute to the problem.
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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps x4
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  • msgmsg Posts: 5,251
    edited February 2019
    Good note. It may very well be - could be the cookies that would normally hold your login/session status info.
    I disabled signatures.
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  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 2,613
    msg wrote: »
    Good note. It may very well be - could be the cookies that would normally hold your login/session status info.

    Exactly. Cookies are usually tied to an authorization token that compares against an authentication server.
    Just a dude doing dude-ly things

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
    "Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
    "Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    edited February 2019
    What a nightmare. Cleared cache and cookies, changed 3rd part settings, closed FF, then reopened, logged back in, no problem, clicked on a thread, got logged out, little tiny "X" again, took ten minutes to get logged back in.
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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps x4
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    This is the only site that I have issues with.
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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps x4
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    And now I get this when trying to view this page. I can't win. At least I'm not in Tony's situation.

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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps x4
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    Refresh the page and then it looks normal. I'm livid.

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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps x4
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  • msgmsg Posts: 5,251
    Try deleting your account in Vanilla and recreating it.
    I disabled signatures.
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  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,771
    msg wrote: »
    Try deleting your account in Vanilla and recreating it.
    If I do, my new screen is going to be "Monosodium Glutamate".
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    3.1 - Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c, PSW125 | PS Audio Quintet | VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300 | Acoustic Panels, Acoustimac Bass Traps x3

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps x4
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