Dug out the SX-780...

steveinaz
steveinaz Posts: 19,371
edited January 2019 in 2 Channel Audio
Getting ready to put this 'ol girl back to work in my shop. Cracked the lid to blow it out a bit and have a look at the caps (Nicholson) which all looked good. This SX-780 was built in 1980 (Japan). Gonna replace the lamps while the lid is off, they all work, but I figure I'll do it now as they are original and easy to replace. I also need to de-ox the balance pot.

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  • verb
    verb Posts: 9,975
    Nice looking unit Steve! It looks minty!
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  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,378
    Nice.

    Mine is on a shelf for now.

    Delivers a great sound with my DM4's.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,371
    edited January 2019
    It's an interesting story. Let me bore you with the details. Back in 1980, my best friend (Rob) and & I went to an audio "super sale" at the Checkerdome in STL. We both bought SX-780's and I also bought a Pioneer CTF-500 cassette deck. Fast forward to several years ago, I was able to make contact with Rob. My SX was long gone, but he still had his, which had been stored for over a decade. He sent me his, gratis, when he found out I was doing a 70's themed man cave. It IS mint, and I at least got him to agree to let me pay for the shipping. I had to agree to never sell it, and I did so willingly. So here she is!

    Tell you what, this thing is HEAVY. Nothing like receivers today. I'd bet it's near 20lbs.

    At the other house, in that HUGE RV garage, I had the 780 hooked up to a pair of ENERGY C-9 towers, and that SX could FILL that area (2500 sq ft) at incredible volumes thru those C-9's.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,217
    edited January 2019
    oldrocker wrote: »
    Nice.

    Mine is on a shelf for now.

    Delivers a great sound with my DM4's.

    Gotta say I’d love to hear that pairing!
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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,015
    Sweet looking gear. They don't make them that pretty any more.
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 9,975
    steveinaz wrote: »
    It's an interesting story. Let me bore you with the details. Back in 1980, my best friend (Rob) and & I went to an audio "super sale" at the Checkerdome in STL. We both bought SX-780's and I also bought a Pioneer CTF-500 cassette deck. Fast forward to several years ago, I was able to make contact with Rob. My SX was long gone, but he still had his, which had been stored for over a decade. He sent me his, gratis, when he found out I was doing a 70's themed man cave. It IS mint, and I at least got him to agree to let me pay for the shipping. I had to agree to never sell it, and I did so willingly. So here she is!

    Tell you what, this thing is HEAVY. Nothing like receivers today. I'd bet it's near 20lbs.

    At the other house, in that HUGE RV garage, I had the 780 hooked up to a pair of ENERGY C-9 towers, and that SX could FILL that area (2500 sq ft) at incredible volumes thru those C-9's.

    Not to thread jack, but I worked at the Checkerdome at that time (not that show, mainly Blues games and concerts) while I was in college! St Louis University! Small world indeed! :smile:
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,371
    Sweet! Once a year they would have model year-end super sales at the Checkerdome. I remember seeing a Pair of HPM 100's that had acrylic see-thru cabinets--awesome.

    I need to make a correction: Nichicon capacitors.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,101
    I was 2 in 1980.

    Sweet reciever!
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  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,378
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    oldrocker wrote: »
    Nice.

    Mine is on a shelf for now.

    Delivers a great sound with my DM4's.

    Gotta say I’d love to hear that pairing!

    Funny you say that.
    When I came to your GTG with the DM4's I almost brought it with me.

    Don't know what it is about those 2 pieces but they really work well together.



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  • honestaquarian
    honestaquarian Posts: 2,977
    What's the power output per channel on this beast?
    I remember those days well. Most of the receivers looked like this one back then, with some notable exceptions like Sansui. These boat anchors were durable and sounded good.
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  • honestaquarian
    honestaquarian Posts: 2,977
    Oh wait I see it on the meters in the close up pic. 50 wpc
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  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,378
    Need to pull her off the shelf.

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,217
    oldrocker wrote: »
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    oldrocker wrote: »
    Nice.

    Mine is on a shelf for now.

    Delivers a great sound with my DM4's.

    Gotta say I’d love to hear that pairing!

    Funny you say that.
    When I came to your GTG with the DM4's I almost brought it with me.

    Don't know what it is about those 2 pieces but they really work well together

    Next time for sure!
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 27,161
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    I was 2 in 1980.

    Sweet reciever!

    I graduated from freaking college in 1980...

    Nice lookin' SX-780 :)

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 27,161
    From the SX-780 manual
    source: http://www.kallhovde.com/pioneer/sx-780om.pdf

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,371
    What have you fellow SX owners used for replacement lamps (faceplate illumination)?
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  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,378
    Haven't replaced mine. They all still work...
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,950
    I was 5 in 1980 and full o beans
    Sweet looking receiver for sure. Love 70’s and 80’s gear. They looks so pretty compared to today’s gear.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,950
    Omg. That’s insane Mark!! Lol
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 27,161
    That's just the rack with the most seventies-era stuff on it (you'll notice a few imposters).
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,371
    I think I spy some Fischer or Scott tuners in that stack.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 27,161
    Those be Sherwoods, young man.
    The Fishers and Scotts live on another shelf.

    All three brands were/are very good, but the sound quality of Sherwoods per dollar (on today's market) is, in my characteristically unhumble opinion, exemplary.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 27,161
    ... but I digress.
    Sorry!

    Unfortunately, I don't know squat 'bout no SX-780 :(
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 2,271
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    My SX-780 is resting at the moment, enjoyed it's sound with my older small Monitor 7's and 5 JR+'s.

    About four years ago I started using it again after several years. Low volume, easy loads. Then after about 2-3 months of maybe once weekly use, no output, powers on but nothing. Took it to the shop. Owner replaced one of two Darlington IC power packs (he said failed), less than $100.00. Okay, so now good. Take it home use it again, worked fine for about six months, then dead again. So I never took it back to the shop and that has been almost four years. Could be the other channel power pack has failed or the replacement was defective? Or something else? Unit is 9/10 otherwise.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 27,161
    edited January 2019
    Good quality replacement "STK" power output packs for things like the SX-780 are notoriously hard to find. Many of the parts available today, regardless of source, are reputed to be counterfeits of poor, or at best, dubious, quality :(

    It is a major bugaboo* with the late 1970s into early 1980s mass(ish) market Japanese-brand hifi hardware (receivers and integrated amplifiers), unfortunately.

    Here's some example discussion on the subject.
    http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/is-there-any-better-new-type-stk-0050.822331
    http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/stk-0050-replacement-for-sx-780-and-others.721181/


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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 2,271
    ^^^^ Thanks Mark. So another option could be the find a donor power pack from a used 780? Is the pack used for each channel identical or specific to L/R?
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 27,161
    edited January 2019
    I am not 100% sure, if the STK-0050 is a mono pack, it'll use two; if it's a stereo pack, it'll use one.

    EDIT: looks to be mono:
    https://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts/datasheet/922/STK0050-pdf.php
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 9,975
    OMG! Professor does have an 8-track player! Don’t get me started, again! :smile:
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    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
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