4k bluray player recommendation

French_guy
French_guy Posts: 338
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Hello
I already have a Xbox one S, but was wondering what would be a 4k bluray player that is better, and does a great job at upscaling standard bluray as well
And without breaking the bank !
Thanks
RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
No surround...yet
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    Panasonic 820 @ $500.
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    edited December 2018
    Any chance to find better than xbox one s but much cheaper than $500?
    Ex: what about the Sony UBP-X700 ($150 at BestBuy right now)? It does Dolby Vision on top of it...
    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,418
    Buy it and report back
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  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
    The ubp-x800 would be my go to.
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,114
    edited December 2018
    Get the UBP-X700 the UBP-X800 wont do Dolby Vision and Sony has no plans to have an update for the X800 or the X1000. I own both the X700 and the X800 and both do a fine job of upscaling DVD and Bluray, plus playback on SACD, DVD Audio and Blu Ray Audio discs. You cant go wrong with the X700 at that price.
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    2 Channel
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited December 2018
    The lg up870 is excellent for blu ray and 4K. Doesn’t do anything else, but you don’t need anything else with your Xbox. I got mine refurb for $50. Don’t know if you can still find that deal...
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  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
    gudnoyez wrote: »
    Get the UBP-X700 the UBP-X800 wont do Dolby Vision and Sony has no plans to have an update for the X800 or the X1000. I own both the X700 and the X800 and both do a fine job of upscaling DVD and Bluray, plus playback on SACD, DVD Audio and Blu Ray Audio discs. You cant go wrong with the X700 at that price.

    Well that's super lame... Bottom tier gets the upgrade and for those who spent the extra money get bubkus.
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    The lg up870 is excellent for blu ray and 4K. Doesn’t do anything else, but you don’t need anything else with your Xbox. I got mine refurb for $50. Don’t know if you can still find that deal...

    I've read some reviews and it seems the LG UP870 and the Sony UBP-X700 are similar in terms of image quality (with more apps on the Sony)
    Big question is: will I see a noticeable difference compared to my xbox one S?
    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    As far as strictly video quality, I don’t think you will see a difference between the x-box and 700.
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  • French_guy
    French_guy Posts: 338
    Do you know if the xbox one s upscales regular bluray into 4k as the Sony is supposedly doing?
    When upscaling, which device is better at that task: the player (or console), the receiver or the TV?
    RTiA5 + CSiA4 + Jamo SW410E
    Yamaha TSR-700 (equivalent to RX V6A)
    No surround...yet
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  • aiconn
    aiconn Posts: 277
    gudnoyez wrote: »
    Get the UBP-X700 the UBP-X800 wont do Dolby Vision and Sony has no plans to have an update for the X800 or the X1000. I own both the X700 and the X800 and both do a fine job of upscaling DVD and Bluray, plus playback on SACD, DVD Audio and Blu Ray Audio discs. You cant go wrong with the X700 at that price.

    Not to derail, but does the x700 have a whine while it's playing a disk?
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,114
    Not that I know of it's in our bedroom hooked up to a big Zvox sound Bar so never payed attention. It's a bit noisy while loading the disc initially but I have not experienced any whining.
    Home Theater
    Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable

    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

    Stuff for the Head
    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
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  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
    My 800 is dead quite...
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited December 2018
    I think the X800 is the best value in players under $500.00 It comes in at $299 but I bet you can find it better then that since it's been out since last year.
    If you like the X700 I have one with about 2 weeks of use on it and maybe just a few movies and a few SACD's I ran in it. I grabbed a Oppo 203 and now the X700 just sits in it's box with no where to go.
    PM me for a price with shipping.
    Dan
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  • Theheadsn
    Theheadsn Posts: 413
    oppo 203, ive seen some now going for not much over the original sale price.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    Theheadsn wrote: »
    oppo 203, ive seen some now going for not much over the original sale price.
    People where making a killing on eBay much higher then retail price.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,478
    Typical Ebay price in December on a UDP-203 with box with remote is still $900 and up. Some are selling for double the original price.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    If people are willing to pay that then it's worth it. I'm not selling mine as I really like it unless the Pioneer Elite UDPLX500 really impresses me which I'll have here soon.
    Dan
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    I have two Oppo 203s, and until they break they aren't going anywhere. :)
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,418
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have two Oppo 203s, and until they break they aren't going anywhere. :)

    hoarder
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  • Derm
    Derm Posts: 95
    The Sony UBXP700 or 800 are decent units and there are Boxing Day deals to be had now.
    My first 4K player was a Philips BDP7501.
    They can still be had for around $99 or less now.
    It has performed flawlessly for my and I have to say the picture quality of both 4K and upscaled Bluray disks is impressive on my bedroom 4K panel.
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  • StewartHolmes83
    StewartHolmes83 Posts: 20
    A dedicated player will get better quality. A cheap Sony will do so. Whatever player you get think about the tweaks you can do to it for great results. Depends how far you want to go
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  • ddog
    ddog Posts: 230
    edited January 2019
    French_guy wrote: »
    Hello
    I already have a Xbox one S, but was wondering what would be a 4k bluray player that is better, and does a great job at upscaling standard bluray as well
    And without breaking the bank !
    Thanks

    It really depends on your display...

    If you have a 4k-ish PJ then you need a player that can deal with HDR issues...
    So right now the Panasonic ub820 is the hottest player on the market.

    If you are using an OLED... once again you are dealing with low light output and black crush on the lower levels.... so the Panasonic ub820 is the player for you.

    If you are using an LCD then I suggest getting the best player you can afford but really purdy much any 4k player will work for you.

    I have 2 OPPO 203's, 103D and 105D and while they are great players with a long line of excellent build quality and reliability the 203 just cant do HDR. The ub 820 and newly released ub9000 are the new king's
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  • LeftCoast
    LeftCoast Posts: 406
    ddog wrote: »
    French_guy wrote: »
    Hello
    I already have a Xbox one S, but was wondering what would be a 4k bluray player that is better, and does a great job at upscaling standard bluray as well
    And without breaking the bank !
    Thanks

    It really depends on your display...

    If you have a 4k-ish PJ then you need a player that can deal with HDR issues...
    So right now the Panasonic ub820 is the hottest player on the market.

    If you are using an OLED... once again you are dealing with low light output and black crush on the lower levels.... so the Panasonic ub820 is the player for you.

    If you are using an LCD then I suggest getting the best player you can afford but really purdy much any 4k player will work for you.

    I have 2 OPPO 203's, 103D and 105D and while they are great players with a long line of excellent build quality and reliability the 203 just cant do HDR. The ub 820 and newly released ub9000 are the new king's

    Do you have any news on the 9000 being released in the U.S.? I couldn't find anything.
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    Check value electronics
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  • ddog
    ddog Posts: 230
    edited January 2019
    ^^ what rpf65 said ^^

    Although besides the 2 Chennal balanced inputs and the OPPO look... purdy much the same as the 820 but with the 900 remote.

    But for 1400 clams...
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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    edited January 2019
    I'm keeping my eye out for the 9000...

    Prolly selling my oppos (203 and 103d)
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    Anybody have any thoughts on what a fair price would be for those units? I see them all over the place.
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's |
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  • ddog
    ddog Posts: 230
    I have one of my 203's 4 sale on of those other sites..
    For a tic over 8 delivered..
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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    Are you getting bites at that price?
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's |
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