Quantum Ground Lifter -- I'll just leave this here

mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
http://www.synergisticresearch.com/isolation/accessories/quantum-ground-lifter/
One meeeellion volts...

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I don't really know what else to say.

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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,639
    Huh. Well for $38 it might be worth a try... except that with a piece designed to be grounded, the lack of a ground is a fire hazard, right?
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,692
    That you're jealous that you didn't come up with that little darling .....

    Very little overhead in lots of potencial.....
  • OleBootOleBoot Posts: 552
    Don't get it angry - you wouldn't like it when it's angry.
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,620
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  • decaldecal Posts: 3,181
    Wow, it's Quantum Tunneled!!!!!!!!!!!
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 5,109
    It's also the same Leviton (even has the Leviton brand molded into it) ground lift plug you can buy at Lowe's or Home Depot for $0.79
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  • ab0tjab0tj Posts: 40
    But..... quantum!!!
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,209
    edited July 2018
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,620
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    It's also the same Leviton (even has the Leviton brand molded into it) ground lift plug you can buy at Lowe's or Home Depot for $0.79

    Well, due to tariffs they are a little more expensive than .79
    But you can buy 2 for $4 :/

    https://www.amazon.com/Leviton-274-000-Grounding-Adapter-Gray/dp/B000H5WGJ6/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_60_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DNNZY9GRJHX5ZTNSHAVK&dpID=31FqLgRXhZL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail
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  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 2,509
    Some of those cheap pocket taser things claim to output millions of volts. I wonder if that's how they "made" the quantum tunneling in their product. Zap your thing with a TASER!!!!!!
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    That you're jealous that you didn't come up with that little darling .....

    Very little overhead in lots of potencial.....

    potential -- I see what you did there ;)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    I would hope that cheap pocket tasers aren't like cheap pens that you put in your pocket and they leak. That could smart.

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    DSkip wrote: »
    I have experienced this cable and it was quite impressive.

    http://synres.wpengine.com/cables/galileo/galileodigital/digital/

    Not sure of your point, other than that it is a product from the same company.
    Heck, Mapleshade sells some nice things, too -- and some bizarre things.
    Pretty common in this industry, which - from my perspective - has a faction that sometimes preys on the naïveté of its market.

    Pierre Sprey (to pick on Mapleshade again) isn't a hack -- but, again, some of his products are sort of questionable in either concept or execution.

    Full disclosure, I have a pair of Mad Scientist Audio Black Discus thingies (the trial versions) on my loudspeaker cables. Why? Because they were free (as in absolutely free, mailed from New Zealand on their dime) and they certainly do no harm. :) I like Mad Scientist Audio's attitude in the context of the hifi tweak companies (FWIW) -- they don't seem to take themselves too seriously, but they are actually a business.

    I'd still, by default, recommend against investing in Quantum Ground Lifters, but YMMV, of course -- it's not my thirty-eight bucks. :)



  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,214
    Is it April 1st?
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    I don't think so -- I was once told that the word gullible cannot be found in any dictionary of the English language... but I didn't check. ;)

    Speaking of irrational products, I like this one. They're honest about it. I might even invest 20 smackers in one of these to demagnetize my system.

    https://superphonica.com/all-products/accessories-other-great-stuff/ayre-ibe-disc/

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,642
    A 2 buck cheater plug at Home depot does the same thing these 38 buck ones do. I'm sure some will sleep better at night knowing they spent 38 bucks for the best ground lifter though. :)
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    edited August 2018
    There's also the 'snip the ground pin off the IEC power cord" tweak.

    Full disclosure: I may have done this to make "reasonable" power cords for my Quad ESL-57s , which have two-prong IEC style power input connectors on 'em. The factory power cords are, like, 30 feet long.

    Heck, some power cords have removable ground pins -- not sure if they've been treated with one meeeeeellion volts though.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    zuul wrote: »
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    Lookin' at 'em, like that, they kind of remind me of Anxious Box.

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  • decaldecal Posts: 3,181
    zuul wrote: »
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    But these aren't Quantum Tunneled !!!!!!!!!!!
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
  • delkaldelkal Posts: 594
    Quantum Tunneled. That is about as silly as cryo treating a powercord or breaking in speaker wires.............OH WAIT!
  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 2,509
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I don't think so -- I was once told that the word gullible cannot be found in any dictionary of the English language... but I didn't check. ;)

    Speaking of irrational products, I like this one. They're honest about it. I might even invest 20 smackers in one of these to demagnetize my system.

    https://superphonica.com/all-products/accessories-other-great-stuff/ayre-ibe-disc/

    id1ctmbs8asd.png

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    Yeah, that track list seemed sort of brown intensive.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,209
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    I have experienced this cable and it was quite impressive.

    http://synres.wpengine.com/cables/galileo/galileodigital/digital/

    Not sure of your point, other than that it is a product from the same company.
    Heck, Mapleshade sells some nice things, too -- and some bizarre things.
    Pretty common in this industry, which - from my perspective - has a faction that sometimes preys on the naïveté of its market.

    Pierre Sprey (to pick on Mapleshade again) isn't a hack -- but, again, some of his products are sort of questionable in either concept or execution.

    Full disclosure, I have a pair of Mad Scientist Audio Black Discus thingies (the trial versions) on my loudspeaker cables. Why? Because they were free (as in absolutely free, mailed from New Zealand on their dime) and they certainly do no harm. :) I like Mad Scientist Audio's attitude in the context of the hifi tweak companies (FWIW) -- they don't seem to take themselves too seriously, but they are actually a business.

    I'd still, by default, recommend against investing in Quantum Ground Lifters, but YMMV, of course -- it's not my thirty-eight bucks. :)



    My point is the company makes some good things. I’m not saying this is one of them, but I’m also not going to say it isn’t. After all, people do spend hundreds on fuses and they seem to have legitimate improvements.

    We preach an open mind but close it when it doesn’t conform. ‘Yeah, but...’ is a closed mind unless you’ve got some real evidence to follow. I admit this seems absurd but won’t say it is. What that said, I won’t be investing my money to trial it.
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,620
    @DSkip
    The problem is they didn't make it, they didn't even try to modify/disguise it....that's what's funny and not good for a reputation overall.

    They could have at least plasti-dipped the thing...just MHO
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    As was pointed out at the listserv from whence came the link (a gathering of the northern New England vacuum tube hifi gurus), they did put a sticker on it.

    The problem from my perspective isn't about open/closed mindedness -- but rather what appears to be the deliberate misappropriation of a term (quantum tunneling) to sell a ground defeating plug adaptor.

    Tunneling is a well-established and well-understood quantum mechanical effect (we wouldn't/couldn't have semiconductors without it); there's no magic, and there are no semiconductors in the product (nor, I'd be willing to bet, any semiconducting materials.

    Healthy and well informed skepticism has a place, too, I would opine...
  • OleBootOleBoot Posts: 552
    Lookin' at 'em, like that, they kind of remind me of Anxious Box.

    Or even..

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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,209
    I don't stand anywhere on it and have skepticism myself. I don't know what their 'process' is to zap these, what it costs, or what impacts it may or may not have.

    To be clear, I'm in no way defending this product. It might be a fun trial to buy one and get an 'unzapped' Leviton and see what happens. I vote for Mr. DK to do the trial!

    o:)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    edited August 2018
    ... vs. just cuttin' the third prong off an IEC cord.

    PS. Denmark. Denmark has happy sockets.

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    ... and here's another jaunty little socket.

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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,620
    BARF
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,410
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    BARF

    Care to expand on that a little?
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