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  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,873
    edited May 2018
    ^^^
    That's really not what you described. I think you may be confusing things. This feature is sometimes referred to as dynamic range compression.
    Compression Function
    The DVD-1000 includes a compression feature that is convenient late at night or other times when you want to listen to a recording at low volume. During normal playback, when the volume is turned down, the gaps between the loud and soft sounds are too great, making it more difficultto hear the sound effects or lyrics. The compression function, however,improves sound clarity at low volume levels.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 20,062
    edited May 2018
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Tony M wrote: »
    I like historic speakers and electronics. I might 've bought it for the cool factor too. ;)

    me, too. ;)

    I have a few early-ish CDPs (FWIW).
    10439534934_cebf00108a_b.jpgSony old CDP by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    10439523565_14246b7f5c_b.jpgTechnics old CDP by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    30123363084_4508d4d7a2_b.jpgDSC_6315_zps1998048c by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
    (that latter one, sadly, was a brick)

    I do not have any of the first generation players (Sony or Magnavox/Philips), though. As implied above, they're collectors' items (of a sort), but not really great to listen to.

    Ooh, nice players! Do they sound good?

    Not particularly, no.
    That last one, sadly, I'll never know.
    It was found with its last meal still ingested -- a Kenny G CD.
    It seemed to have been too much for the CDP, which had given up any pretense of ever spinning another disk after such treatment :|

    That said, it was held, in some circles, to be a pretty decent deck.
    http://www.thevintageknob.org/SONY/sonyes/CDP456ES/CDP456ES.html
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,386
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    ^^^
    That's really not what you described. I think you may be confusing things. This feature is sometimes referred to as dynamic range compression.
    Compression Function
    The DVD-1000 includes a compression feature that is convenient late at night or other times when you want to listen to a recording at low volume. During normal playback, when the volume is turned down, the gaps between the loud and soft sounds are too great, making it more difficultto hear the sound effects or lyrics. The compression function, however,improves sound clarity at low volume levels.

    Oh
    ok, interesting. I thought that meant compression to MP3. The old Sony CD changer actually did compress the files, it said in the features list “compresses audio down to MP3 because blah blah blah” I can’t remember why, I’ll find it later and tell you why it did.
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Tony M wrote: »
    I like historic speakers and electronics. I might 've bought it for the cool factor too. ;)

    me, too. ;)

    I have a few early-ish CDPs (FWIW).
    10439534934_cebf00108a_b.jpgSony old CDP by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    10439523565_14246b7f5c_b.jpgTechnics old CDP by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    30123363084_4508d4d7a2_b.jpgDSC_6315_zps1998048c by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
    (that latter one, sadly, was a brick)

    I do not have any of the first generation players (Sony or Magnavox/Philips), though. As implied above, they're collectors' items (of a sort), but not really great to listen to.

    Ooh, nice players! Do they sound good?

    Not particularly, no.
    That last one, sadly, I'll never know.
    It was found with its last meal still ingested -- a Kenny G CD.
    It seemed to have been too much for the CDP, which had given up any pretense of ever spinning another disk after such treatment :|

    That said, it was held, in some circles, to be a pretty decent deck.
    http://www.thevintageknob.org/SONY/sonyes/CDP456ES/CDP456ES.html

    They all look to be pretty decent CDPs, that last one does look to be of very good quality at least in the picture. Wish you could listen to it, I’d love to hear your opinions on it, but oh well.
    Micah

    Main system: Technics SL3200, Shure M97xE, Lafayette LR1100 for tuner, Hagerman Audio Labs Bugle 2 phono stage, NAD C352 integrated, Boston Acoustics VR 2, Boston PV500, generic ICs, and BJC Belden speaker cables.

    Desktop: Dell Precision 690 running iTunes, Yamaha RX-v665, Monitor Audio R90s, Velodyne VA-907, generic ICs and speaker cables.
    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • maxwardmaxward Posts: 212
    What an appropriate last meal! That Kenny G cd could likely gag many players.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,132
    Consider mp3 was not even invented when the first CD players came out I'm having a hard time believing any CD player would compress to a lossy output. Then on another note would the receiver be able to recognize the stream coming to it since it would now be a digital file stream?
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,250
    I agree, I've never heard of this either. Only thing I've seen that would compress is a ripper product like this:

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=2COX12
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Consider mp3 was not even invented when the first CD players came out I'm having a hard time believing any CD player would compress to a lossy output. Then on another note would the receiver be able to recognize the stream coming to it since it would now be a digital file stream?

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,682
    I had a CD player that was resting on Missing Persons' 3rd album, and the feet of the player compressed the album cover. So, you could say that the CD player compressed MP (Missing Person) 3 (3rd album).

    And speaking of Missing Persons, here is a song on which MP drummer Terry Bozzio plays.

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 20,062
    speaking of Terry Bozzio & FZ:



    Pretty darned good recording, too (not sure how well that translates to YT).
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,386
    F1nut wrote: »
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    ^^^
    That's really not what you described. I think you may be confusing things. This feature is sometimes referred to as dynamic range compression.
    Compression Function
    The DVD-1000 includes a compression feature that is convenient late at night or other times when you want to listen to a recording at low volume. During normal playback, when the volume is turned down, the gaps between the loud and soft sounds are too great, making it more difficultto hear the sound effects or lyrics. The compression function, however,improves sound clarity at low volume levels.

    Bingo!

    No such thing is a CDP compressing the output to an MP3 format.

    Oops, I guess I miss interpreted the meaning of that in the specs. Not the first time that has happened to be honest though.
    Micah

    Main system: Technics SL3200, Shure M97xE, Lafayette LR1100 for tuner, Hagerman Audio Labs Bugle 2 phono stage, NAD C352 integrated, Boston Acoustics VR 2, Boston PV500, generic ICs, and BJC Belden speaker cables.

    Desktop: Dell Precision 690 running iTunes, Yamaha RX-v665, Monitor Audio R90s, Velodyne VA-907, generic ICs and speaker cables.
    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,141
    edited May 2018
    And continuing the theme (though it may be considered NSFW):
    Please ignore... :#
    That was a tangent that swung way out and should have in no way gotten on this thread. Sry
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,386
    Ive been listening to it for the past few days, it I can say that it sounds MUCH better than the Sony IMO. Maybe it’s just synergy with all the Technics gear, but with the Technics amp, CDP, and the Missions, I’m hearing details that I’ve never heard before. I’ll give a better review later but I don’t have a ton of time right now.
    Micah
    Micah

    Main system: Technics SL3200, Shure M97xE, Lafayette LR1100 for tuner, Hagerman Audio Labs Bugle 2 phono stage, NAD C352 integrated, Boston Acoustics VR 2, Boston PV500, generic ICs, and BJC Belden speaker cables.

    Desktop: Dell Precision 690 running iTunes, Yamaha RX-v665, Monitor Audio R90s, Velodyne VA-907, generic ICs and speaker cables.
    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
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