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1.2tl's get a new pair of monoblocks

motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
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I just picked up these Monarchy class A mono-blocks and I've been playing them all weekend on my Polks. Listening impressions are quite favorable. The little guys are only 70 wpc but it's class A so I'm thinking that's why they drive the Polks so surprisingly well.They do have better bass than the monster Mac's they're sitting on and at less than 1/10th the power that surprised me. They also are great little heaters as they both run at a steady 120 degrees. I originally got them to power my khorns but I figured I give them a shot at the Polks to and I'll be darned if I wasn't pleasantly surprised.

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 13,754
    Beautiful set up you have there. ;)
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  • FestYboyFestYboy Posts: 3,580
    Not seeing it, but I'll assume there's a dreadnaught tucked in the rack?
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,133
    I see a pair of Mac monos up for sale soon.
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Beautiful set up you have there. ;)

    Thanks; it keeps me out of trouble or sometimes gets me into it.
    FestYboy wrote: »
    Not seeing it, but I'll assume there's a dreadnaught tucked in the rack?

    Oh yes there's dreadnaught on the bottom shelf tucked behind the Mac light.
    F1nut wrote: »
    I see a pair of Mac monos up for sale soon.

    Actually Jesse the Mac's were up for sale for the past week but I didn't find a buyer. Of course I didn't try really hard either. I had a line on a pair of Mcintosh MC1201's and that's what I really wanted. My consolation prize are these little Monarchys.
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  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,832
    Very, very nice rig!!!
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  • oldrockeroldrocker Posts: 2,169
    Super cool stack of goodies.
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  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,460
    Great set-up, impressive Stack of Mac you have! I would love to try the Monarchy Mono's one day also. N'joy
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    Thanks; these are my first modernish (this century) amps that I've had on the Polks and the first pair with balanced inputs as well. For 90% of my listening surprisingly to me these Monarchys would do just fine. I thought for sure they would fall on their face given their low output much in the same way my 60wpc tube integrated did when asked to drive the 1.2tl's. But I was wrong.
    Driving the more sensitive khorns I have the little class A amps really shine and I've found that just one 40 wpc amp is more than adequate. Class A, made in America and the price won't rupture the piggy bank; I just couldn't say no :)
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  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,254
    Very nice setup. I have a pair of Monarchy 100 Class A Monoblocks on my Ushers. They sound really sweet. I have never ran them with my 2.3 TL's though. But I have also used the Monarchy's with some KEF 105/2's and Klipsch CF3's and they were very impressive.
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    Alrighty then I'm glad to know I'm not the only one here with a pair of Monarchys. I can bet they sound great on all your speakers; why haven't you tried them on your Polks? 100wpc of Class A should really light them up.
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    F1nut wrote: »
    I see a pair of Mac monos up for sale soon.

    You were right Jesse; Here they are in back of my suv on their way to a new home hopefully tomorrow.
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  • Gerres26Gerres26 Posts: 478
    Those Monarchy's take over for powering the polks?
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    Just for tonite; I'm in hopes of bringing home something a little bit more refined than the 2500's tomorrow.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 13,754
    edited February 2018
    WOW THAT OUGHTA DO IT!!!!
    very nice i would love to hear them.
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  • tratlifftratliff Posts: 774
    edited February 2018
    Yep. That should do it!

    Congrats on the beasts.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,133
    Somebody got a bigger hammer. B)
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    Thanks guys; As nice as those MC2500's were these guys are in a whole nuther league. The 29db improved s/n ratio (95 vs. 124) is one thing. These amps are dead quiet. The bass is also much improved. I have bass in familiar songs that I never knew was there. I haven't sat down for a detailed assessment yet for the soundstage but my short session seems to confirm that it has expanded as well. What did surprise me though is how much the amps show the difference in cabling. It was noticeable on the 2500's but with the quieter background now the difference is impossible to overlook. A better quality rca (MIT shotgun) beats a mediocre Kimber balanced input???? I would not have believed it
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,945
    Biggest VU meters EVER!
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Biggest VU meters EVER!

    Lol and yes pics don't do them justice; they're huge almost to the point of being ridiculous just like the rest of the amp. The piece of glass covering them is a half inch thick and the amp's 148lb weight made moving them alone a challenge to say the least.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 13,754
    Those amp stands are screaming for an upgrade. So did you install eyebolts in the ceiling for the block and tackle to drop them in place?
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    I agree and the other electronics deserve a better rack as well. Neither are in the budget right now lol. No block and tackle. Just my tired 62 year old back wrestling them into place alone. The good thing is I didn't have to load them into the back of the car. All I did was supervise the 2 younger guys.
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  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 1,270
    edited February 2018
    motorstereo wrote: »
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    That's sick! Probably better than mine...

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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 20,819
    Don’t think I would trust those pedestals with 150lb McIntosh amps. Congrats on the magnificent amps.
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Don’t think I would trust those pedestals with 150lb McIntosh amps. Congrats on the magnificent amps.
    Thanks; Well they held my 129lb Macs for 3 years with no problems. Just to be sure there'd be no problems with the new ones I bounced my 200+ carcass around on them with no damage. They're also secured to wall.
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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    [quote="audioluvr

    That's sick! Probably better than mine...

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    Haha; my sickness started decades ago with a GE Wildcat with Bachman Turner Overdrive records. I've been upgrading ever since
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  • oldrockeroldrocker Posts: 2,169
    motorstereo wrote: »
    It's been a long and very tiring day of driving and then wrestling with heavyweight Mcintosh poweramps. The end result is my old MC2500's have gone to a new home and I have a new to me pair of Mcintosh MC1201's (1200wpc) to light up the 1.2tl's. So far what little time I've had with the 1201'sfgiemryvkvvp.jpg
    the listening impressions are very favorable.

    Sheesh. Wicked looking indeed!!!

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,975
    edited February 2018
    motorstereo wrote: »
    Thanks; Well they held my 129lb Macs for 3 years with no problems. Just to be sure there'd be no problems with the new ones I bounced my 200+ carcass around on them with no damage. They're also secured to wall.

    Well now, that's a horse of a different color! If you ever want to compare those with both 1.2s and 2.3s, don't be afraid to throw them in your carry-on and fly up to Vee Tee. :p

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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,265
    ^^^^^Haha; I'm hoping I never ever have to move them again. Concert Grands take the cake as the worst speakers I've ever had to move and these amps are the worst electronics to ever make my back sore. They came from southern NH; not too far from "Vee Tee"
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,975
    motorstereo wrote: »
    ^^^^^Haha; I'm hoping I never ever have to move them again. Concert Grands take the cake as the worst speakers I've ever had to move and these amps are the worst electronics to ever make my back sore. They came from southern NH; not too far from "Vee Tee"

    I have a 50-pound tube amp and when I try to move it, it feels like there are otherworldly gravitational forces at play. :p I can't even imagine what those beauties are like to lift. :o
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